Help: NMN 4" Risers on a SE5

[Tom in NM]

Could someone post or email me some pictures of what the NMN 4" Risers look like on an SE5?

Yes, I read the instructions - and the 3,561 threads and comments about how great they are, but I have not been able to find what the cable routing and spacer parts install looks like.

The instructions got me in the ballpark, but they only show Lamont's SM5 install. The SE5 hardware is different. Left to my own devices I have had them assembled a couple different ways and routed the cables different ways. Each has some plusses and minuses.

Generally I have enough cable, though it is really tight on full turn to the Right. Everything 'fits', but there are odd spaces and gaps - at least to my eye - see the attached pictures.

I have not cut my handlebars yet. Functionally they feel like they will deserve all the ergonomic praise I have heard. But, the look and fit are leaving me uncertain. Structurally I am not feeling warm and fuzzy. BUT, I could have them upside down and backwards for all I know.

It is getting dark. I would like to get the Spyder back together. Ice cream and the Santa Fe Indian Market are calling. Any help would be greatly appreciated and would help me cut down on the "discouraging words" that are seldom heard around here.

Thanks
Tom

Pictures of My Best Guess below.

1: the rightside front
2: the rightside back
3: the leftside front
4: the leftside back
5: the cable path

 

[Tom in NM]

hit the max

here are two other pictures showing the gaps or misfits.

Again, thanks all.

Tom

 

[Longlegs]

I don't have mine rotated up as high as yours, and my cables run behind/under the risers on both sides. On the shifter side you have the cables split and run around the the front of the bars,and I have both mine through the notched side and down behind the bars (the seat side). I also reached up through the right side with the plastic removed and cut all the zip ties holding wires goin to the bars. Oh and I pulled the throttle cable out of the wire formed loop by the steering column. I don't notice any thing wrong with the actual riser placement.

 

[BeRight]

Just curious do you plan leaving old bars in place?

 

[Tom in NM]

Maybe . . . .

Just curious do you plan leaving old bars in place?

. . . . if I can't get these to work.

Another 4 or 5 hours should do it. On Sunday. And Monday. Probably only 2 hours on Tuesday.

Tom

 

[BeRight]

Take a break-have a cold one-You might want to give NMN a call on Monday, they have an excellent reputation for helping out their customers.

 

[Tom in NM]

Hmmmmm . . . .

I don't have mine rotated up as high as yours, and my cables run behind/under the risers on both sides. On the shifter side you have the cables split and run around the the front of the bars,and I have both mine through the notched side and down behind the bars (the seat side). I also reached up through the right side with the plastic removed and cut all the zip ties holding wires goin to the bars. Oh and I pulled the throttle cable out of the wire formed loop by the steering column. I don't notice any thing wrong with the actual riser placement.

. . . . all the cables ( I think ) on the shifter control are OK, though they do feed down through the frame. I did have to re-route the trunk latch cable, but they are fine. I got the picture below from someplace - NMN showing the shifter/left side. I noticed that my Reverse cable is going over the bar, so I will change that. I will see if the other cable will go through the notch, but I don't think so, but maybe I have not rotated the NMN bar enough.

Yes, my throttle cable is out of the wire loop guide, but it snags it sometimes when I test turning. Thinking about taping it closed.

Thanks

Tom

 

[bjt]

I don't think there is one universally correct way to route the cables when installing these risers. If someone had the risers set almost straight up (like I have) the cables may route different than someone who set the risers flatter (like my wife has). Get the angle set on the risers and then determine how the cables should route that works best with that angle.

 

[Latemarch]

I left the plastic spacers out and just let the raw bar show. It gives a nice place to bar mount any RAM mounts.

Others have cut the original bars long and used that as a bar mount spot for RAM mount or cruise control additions.

On both sides I ran the cables on the drivers side of the risers.

YMMV

 

[WizardMaster]

Here ya go Tom. This is how we have them mounted on our SE5 shop :spyder:. As people have commented, it does matter on the angle the risers are mounted. If I remember correctly, we set these at 25 degrees, (I will have to measure them tomorrow).

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[pauly1]

Here's a photo from SpyderDeb's :spyder2:, viewing the left handlebar from a vantage point to the left and front of the bike. To be clear, she has the 1" BRP Riser with the 3" NMN Risers, for a total of 4".

She prefers her risers rotated back. In the photo the split line on the riser is rotated CW just under 1/8" from the split line between the top handlebar cover (the silver one) and base when viewed from the left side of the machine. She prefers it that way and that's where I was most comfortable with the cable movement.

So how was the icecream?

Wayne

 

[Tom in NM]

PERFECT!!!!

Here ya go Tom. This is how we have them mounted on our SE5 shop :spyder:. As people have commented, it does matter on the angle the risers are mounted. If I remember correctly, we set these at 25 degrees, (I will have to measure them tomorrow).

I can do that!
I (think) I am missing that black spacer band on the the left set, but that is not a big deal. But now I see I was trying to "seat" the unit in the notch, not use it for cable routing.

The right-hand cables going on the rider side, in front of the risers, is kind of ugly, but probably not too bad given the angle. Currently I don't have very much angle on them - I haven't measured it in degrees, but they are around 1 O'clock.

Thanks for turning on the light. This helps.

Tom

 

[bone crusher]

I can do that!
I (think) I am missing that black spacer band on the the left set, but that is not a big deal. But now I see I was trying to "seat" the unit in the notch, not use it for cable routing.

The right-hand cables going on the rider side, in front of the risers, is kind of ugly, but probably not too bad given the angle. Currently I don't have very much angle on them - I haven't measured it in degrees, but they are around 1 O'clock.

Thanks for turning on the light. This helps.

Tom

I know I have the SM5, but the cables on the right are not running through the hole as well...for whatever reason, I don't know...but regardless, they're not in the way and all is working fine. Take a look...I think if the bars were rotated more, it'd throw off throttle control, so leaving them where they are seems to be fine, for me...

 

[Tom in NM]

took me a second to get the angle . . . .

Here's a photo from SpyderDeb's :spyder2:, viewing the left handlebar from a vantage point to the left and front of the bike. To be clear, she has the 1" BRP Riser with the 3" NMN Risers, for a total of 4".

She prefers her risers rotated back. In the photo the split line on the riser is rotated CW just under 1/8" from the split line between the top handlebar cover (the silver one) and base when viewed from the left side of the machine. She prefers it that way and that's where I was most comfortable with the cable movement.

So how was the icecream?

Wayne

. . . . but I see it now. That riser looks like it came from a SM5 package - mine has a notch/indentation, Deb's looks like it has the cable pass-through hole, though it does not look like you used it. And, she really has hers pulled back - I am short, but I don't have any real problem with the stock bar position, though I don't sit far enough back on the seat. ( which I am hoping these risers will change )

No ice cream.
After I posted yesterday, it was twilight and a storm was coming in, so I needed to get the body panels back on the Spyder and all the tools up before it rained. I don't have a garage. Got that done just in time.
I grew up in body shops and because I am so klutzy at times, I am really careful with containers for all the screws, etc. It looks anal-retentive, like it is a surgical tray, but it is really survival. I noticed that the right hand grip and end-cap and screw were "missing". As I started looking on the ground around the table and the Spyder, two of my dogs came running up - one had the grip in her mouth and was teasing the other dog with it. I guess I can no longer say that they "never touch my stuff". She had the grip and it was not damaged, but the end cap and screw were somewhere in the yard. It took about a half hour in the dark, the wind, and rain with flashlights to find it.
No ice cream.
But, my sense of humor did come back.

Wayne, thanks for the picture - as you can guess, I need all the help I can get.

Tom

 

[Tom in NM]

Thanks!

I know I have the SM5, but the cables on the right are not running through the hole as well...for whatever reason, I don't know...but regardless, they're not in the way and all is working fine. Take a look...I think if the bars were rotated more, it'd throw off throttle control, so leaving them where they are seems to be fine, for me...

The angle looks fine. But, I thought the hole was for the clutch or Reverse cable on the left side. But, if it works - that is the way to go.

I should not be giving advice on this, but - it seems you could use the hole as the mounting point for your GPS on the right side. I am not a big fan of things sticking up in front of the dash, but that may be the best place for that type of device.

I am thinking about not cutting my bars, they are not in the way of anything. But, I was thinking they might make good mounting points for mirrors? cup holders? electronics? Just thinking. No real ideas yet, but it seems a waste to just cut them off. And so final, too.

Thanks for the pic. Every thing helps.

Tom

 

[bone crusher]

The angle looks fine. But, I thought the hole was for the clutch or Reverse cable on the left side. But, if it works - that is the way to go.

I should not be giving advice on this, but - it seems you could use the hole as the mounting point for your GPS on the right side. I am not a big fan of things sticking up in front of the dash, but that may be the best place for that type of device.

I am thinking about not cutting my bars, they are not in the way of anything. But, I was thinking they might make good mounting points for mirrors? cup holders? electronics? Just thinking. No real ideas yet, but it seems a waste to just cut them off. And so final, too.

Thanks for the pic. Every thing helps.

Tom

The hole on the left does have something going through it...only one line though...as you can see, the right avoids the hole...it looks too sharp of a turn to get it through there anyway.

As far as the mounting bracket (RAM) for the Garmin goes, I don't think the hole will suffice for that. I like the Garmin up high...reason? So I'm not looking down at it as I'm riding. Many here drop the GPS to the center console or some low point...they have to essentially look down to view the GPS or to play with it. I prefer to have it up high so I'm scanning it vs. moving my head and looking away from the road. The higher, the better...did you notice the lock nut? This is so nobody can take the cradle for the zumo...the cradle has a good street value and is very easy to take if you don't use this locking mechanism...

You'll also notice that I have the kewlmetal mirrors...I adjusted them a bit when the handlebars came up...actually get more out of them as instead of looking past my shoulders, they'll a little lower and looking past a more narrow portion of my body...

As far as cutting the bars, I wanted them to as I like a clean look. If you leave them on, you can attach various items to them, but to me they'll look a little funny...true that you can go back to stock, but once you have the risers, you're not going to worry too much about it anymore (meaning, you won't want the stock bars back)...as far as extra things to clamp on, remember that they are still part of your handlebars and you won't want items that can interfere with steering...weight imbalances from side to side could affect steering in an emergency situation...who knows? Just a thought...

Also have the throttlemeister...love it! You can see the weight on the left one on this pic...

Attached is another pic...

 

[Tom in NM]

lots of differences

The hole on the left does have something going through it...only one line though...as you can see, the right avoids the hole...it looks too sharp of a turn to get it through there anyway.

. . . the risers seem to vanish on the SM5s. And I don't have a hole on the right side riser. Probably why the SE5 ones cost more - all that extra aluminum.

I would be one of those people looking down at the GPS, but I understand having it up.

Yup, the extra bars look funny, but after 3 days I am getting used to it. It would cost around $100, I think, to put the bars back on if cut.

Good point on the weight factor and turning, no Dual Super-Slush Slurpy cup holders in my future. I had already trashed the towel bar application.

Tom