HELP! High Temperature.

[Peter Aawen]

..... but I just want to be sure I do it right.
When talking about wire isolation, What would you suggest?....

Nothing 'extra' Bernard.

The only 'issue' here is that we've discovered a few (VERY few) gauges have started showing high readings when the coolant temp really wasn't high at all!! So if you ride your Spyder beforehand, have a look at where the gauge is showing the temp; then do the Magics Install; once done, go for a ride - if the gauge climbs fairly quickly right up into the red & stays there, then since you just rode earlier & your Spyder wasn't over-heating, chances are it still isn't overheating & your gauge is reading incorrectly.

If anyone tests the gauge off the Spyder, it will work fine; if you remove the Magics, it will once again work fine & won't show any fault - not unless something else is wrong with it anyway! And so far, every confirmed instance of this (5 out of about 1000 installations) has either been clearly due to moved wiring, usually with poor quality joins or insulation too, bringing the wiring from where it should be, behind the gauge & towards the middle of the 'behind the dash cavity' over to hard up against the inside of the RH mirror mount where the wiring with poor quality joins or dodgy insulation has been able to move & rub & fray & do all sorts of stuff wiring should NEVER do, including picking up the tiny (& I do mean tiny!) amount of magnetic field that can be detected thru the frame there, or it's somehow been due to the polarity of the mounted magnets & is readily remedied by flipping one or more until the false 'high reading' goes away! hyea:

How to avoid this false reading? In the first instance, do nothing but check the gauge before & after installation as mentioned above - the odds of there being a problem are pretty small (so far, 5:1000+, possibly marginally higher; but still very likely less than 0.1%!!) So if you DO have a problem appear with your temp gauge reading & you don't think your dash has ever been opened, try flipping the RHS magnets one by one & watching what your temp gauge does; if that resolves the problem (as I suspect it will) I'd still suggest dropping the dash to check the wiring inside for any potential or pending problems with the wiring & make them good, ie, proper plugs or spliced joins with insulation/heat shrink tape over them! And if you already know your dash has been opened, do all the above but CERTAINLY check behind the dash & make sure any extra wiring is at least about 50mm away from the inside of the mirror mounts &/or has proper joins & patent insulation with any exposed wires covered & everything secured so it can't move around &/or fray/wear!!

And if you still have concerns, talk to Russ/Merlot, I'm sure he won't have any issues with you returning the kit for a refund!

It really isn't anything extra hard or even unwarranted, just make sure any wiring additions are done properly & maybe flip the magnets to avoid any polarity concerns, but unless there is already something 'improper' with any extra wiring in there, the chances of this 'polarity' thing being a concern are quite small! :dontknow:

 

[BernardD]

Hi Peter,
many thanks for taking the time to go through all the details.
kind regards,
Bernard

 

[gkamer]

This is pretty crazy

Who would have thought that a problem with a temp gauge wold have been connected to a mirror? This is a pretty weird world we share. hyea:

 

[Bob Denman]

Peter,
Since installing my Magic Mirror Mounts: I sometimes get some buzziness in my left front (J&M) speaker...
Do you think that flipping the top magnet would help with this issue also? :dontknow:

 

[Peter Aawen]

You could give it a try Bob, altho the magnet bods tell us that unless there is movement in the wires while they are IN the magnetic field, there can't be any 'interference' like that....& there should be no magnetic field beyond the plate they mount on?! :dontknow:

My radio/one or both speakers used to buzz occasionally, well before we started magnet testing, & they still do at times, maybe yours were doing the same but now you notice it & attribute it to the magnets?

I really don't know if the magnets would be involved at all in that type of interference, as any magnetic field getting thru their mounting points would really be quite small, tiny in fact, & as the experts have told us, theoretically, there should be no way they will impact - but we all know there's 'theory' & then there's reality! :dontknow:

 

[Bob Denman]

Thanks! :thumbup:
I wasn't really trying to blame them for it...

But when this issue popped up: I figured that it would be worth asking someone who might know a heck of a lot more about it, than I do! :bowdown:

 

[Tennesseetomboy]

I installed the Magic Mirrors last week and was wondering why the temperature was showing hot. By flipping the magnets, do you mean taking them off and just turning the magnets upside down? Thanks!

Debbie

 

[Peter Aawen]

Yep, just take them off one at a time & re-install with the side that was facing out facing in!! You need to do it one at a time because it may be JUST one magnet's polarity making the temp gauge read high. :sour:

 

[Tennesseetomboy]

Thanks for the reply! I did one and when the rain lets up, I will take it for a spin.

 

[Peter Aawen]

If the temp gauge reads high again, just leave it running & flip the next one - it can be interesting watching the gauge while you actually do the flip!

 

[mcalva]

Hi.
At the end the problem was the RH magnet. I flipped it and everything is normal now.
I didn't mention it when I opened the post cause I'd never could thing that was the problem.:banghead:
Thank you very much, Peter for your attention and professionalism cause it could drive me crazy.:gaah:
Thank you very much too to everybody by your help.

 

[Buckeye Bleau]

I am happy to hear that this issue was resolved without too much effort.

Now, I would like to suggest that you disconnect both the fuel and temperature guages on your Byke and replace them with something else. When you do that new digital temperature and fuel guages will appear on your center screen.

Ireplaced mine with a voltage guage and a dual USB charging port. The digital guages are MUCH more accurate and this action gives you more options.

Joe

 

[Tennesseetomboy]

Thanks Peter! It worked! Fixed it on the first magnet.

Debbie

 

[Bob Denman]

:clap: :congrats:
Or should I say: "Cool..." :thumbup: