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Helmet dilemna
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Wildrice
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Helmet DOT versus Snell
I've had several helmets in both DOT & (2) Shoei Snell versions. The various DOT brands are much more comfortable than my Shoei Snell's. Make sure U try the helmets on & wear them for at least 10 minutes. I have track tested both. With the DOT i ended up with a big lump on the opposite side on my head of pavement contact. With the Shoei I tumbled in a forward roll for 70+ yards. Not one lump on my head. General street riding I use a DOT--Snell's are tight on the head. Thus to each his own on helmet choice. I kinda like the idea of a speaker-earpiece helmet on rides with a passenger. I discourage the helmets without chin protection--I've seen someone shorten their nosenojoke
Darrell
I've had several helmets in both DOT & (2) Shoei Snell versions. The various DOT brands are much more comfortable than my Shoei Snell's. Make sure U try the helmets on & wear them for at least 10 minutes. I have track tested both. With the DOT i ended up with a big lump on the opposite side on my head of pavement contact. With the Shoei I tumbled in a forward roll for 70+ yards. Not one lump on my head. General street riding I use a DOT--Snell's are tight on the head. Thus to each his own on helmet choice. I kinda like the idea of a speaker-earpiece helmet on rides with a passenger. I discourage the helmets without chin protection--I've seen someone shorten their nosenojoke
Darrell
RZ-Jackrabbit
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The first helmet that I bought when I purchased the RT and this helmet had the Sena system added to it. What I found was that the Sena speakers would cause ear pain after I had worn the helmet for some times less than an hour. I found the Bell Mag-9 which is designed for the Sena and the speakers fit into pockets. This helmet does not cause ear pain for me anyway :yes:. I had Bell helmets long ago and never had any issues with them.
I want to strongly agree.
I ride both a bicycle and motorcycle and in both cases I have found the fit to vary widely between brands. I currently ride with a newer Shoei helmet since they redesigned it a few years back and changed the shape. Previously I also rode a Shoei since Arai's, Bells, etc were not even a close fit, but it was not comfortable. I have turned my older helmet into my winter helmet with a shield attachment that prevents it from fogging. With bicycles I always rode with a Giro since helmets like Bell did not fit me. Now Bell bicycle helmets fit me and Giro's don't.
Bob Denman
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:agree: nojoke
Highwayman2013
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I agree that regardless of cost, a helmet must fit well and be comfortable. A $1000 helmet means nothing if you won't wear it because of pain or hot spots. I have a round head that is large so the best fit I could find was in an HJC IS Max 2 in 3X. It's modular with good ventilation and a drop down sun shield. Around $200 My wife likes her Sedici Systema from Cycle Gear, also modular with a drop down sun shield. Around $200. The SENA 20s unit fits fine in both.
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2Paw
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I have this helmet and like it very much for the wide range of vision if offers, I don't care much for the quick release strap though, I prefer the strap and D ring method. Overall I'm very happy with this helmet though.
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/nolan-n44-helmet
https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/nolan-n44-helmet
IdahoMtnSpyder
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And two helmets of different models and different years and the same size from the same mfr won't necessarily fit the same.
Sierra Electronics will, or at least used to, let you order more than one helmet and return the ones you don't like.
CA Railwhale
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Agree with Scorpin
My wife and I have Scorpion Exo 3/4 helmets. We like them very much. The not only have the clear face shield, but a retractable sun visor as well, so in daylight, you can run just sun visor protecting your eyes, face shield or both. They are lightweight and comfortable and seem to be very protective. If I remember correctly we paid about $150.00 each retail from the dealer.
My wife and I have Scorpion Exo 3/4 helmets. We like them very much. The not only have the clear face shield, but a retractable sun visor as well, so in daylight, you can run just sun visor protecting your eyes, face shield or both. They are lightweight and comfortable and seem to be very protective. If I remember correctly we paid about $150.00 each retail from the dealer.
I've tried $600+ Arai's and Shoei, $129 HJC and KBC, and everything in between. Currently my collection has AGV, Suomy, and Bell. Bell by the way, has Sena integration on their Qualifer DLX line - the Sena SMH10 unit fits into a little pocket in the shell.
You don't have to spend top dollar. Many road racers who ride twice as fast as you, have perfectly safe helmets at reasonable prices. Look for Snell, ECE, and DOT approved helmets. https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/helmet-safety-ratings-101 Anything without are considered "novelty" helmets. While there is debate whether a $1000 carbon fiber limited edition race helmet is 5x safer than a $200 off the shelf unit, the general rule of thumb is the more expensive ones have more features and are lighter or quieter.
If this is your first helmet, go to an actual shop and try all of them on. Cyclegear has a good selection of their inexpensive house brand and the premium Shoei and Arai. They all fit differently even within the same brand. Try, try and try some more.
You don't have to spend top dollar. Many road racers who ride twice as fast as you, have perfectly safe helmets at reasonable prices. Look for Snell, ECE, and DOT approved helmets. https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/helmet-safety-ratings-101 Anything without are considered "novelty" helmets. While there is debate whether a $1000 carbon fiber limited edition race helmet is 5x safer than a $200 off the shelf unit, the general rule of thumb is the more expensive ones have more features and are lighter or quieter.
If this is your first helmet, go to an actual shop and try all of them on. Cyclegear has a good selection of their inexpensive house brand and the premium Shoei and Arai. They all fit differently even within the same brand. Try, try and try some more.
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ARtraveler
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Correction?/Update?
RE: SENA communicators and newest Nolan modular helmets.
The SENA communicators that I have (SMH-10) do not attach to the lip on the above mentioned NOLAN's. I use the screw down attachment. I have not tried the "stick on" tabs. Just an update, because I see others have had success with the SENA on Nolan.
We bought the built in N-Com with the Nolans. They are NOT as good (reception wise) as our SENA--which we have mounted on earlier versions of Nolan.
RE: SENA communicators and newest Nolan modular helmets.
The SENA communicators that I have (SMH-10) do not attach to the lip on the above mentioned NOLAN's. I use the screw down attachment. I have not tried the "stick on" tabs. Just an update, because I see others have had success with the SENA on Nolan.
We bought the built in N-Com with the Nolans. They are NOT as good (reception wise) as our SENA--which we have mounted on earlier versions of Nolan.
Highwayman2013
New member
Tried the stick on for the wife's 20s and it came unglued out on the road. I found a way to make the clamp work.
Helmets are Personal
You said you have a Cycle Gear near you. Go try on as many as you can handle. My forehead was raw, after trying on over a dozen helmets a few weeks ago, at my local Cycle Gear. Helmets are personal. Irrespective of price or rating, you want the helmet to be comfortable. I tried everything on from $100 lids to helmets in excess of $600. I used to be really comfortable with HJC; however, my oval head shape doesn't seem to work with the newer models. I tried on everything from Bilt to Arai. I settled on an AGV K3 SV. The helmet works great and readily accepted the Sena 10S communications system. The folks at Cycle Gear installed the system in my helmet for me at no additional charge. Truth be told, they are rather simple to put in. The AGV works great for me and the Sena 10S is absolutely stellar for my needs. Good luck.
You said you have a Cycle Gear near you. Go try on as many as you can handle. My forehead was raw, after trying on over a dozen helmets a few weeks ago, at my local Cycle Gear. Helmets are personal. Irrespective of price or rating, you want the helmet to be comfortable. I tried everything on from $100 lids to helmets in excess of $600. I used to be really comfortable with HJC; however, my oval head shape doesn't seem to work with the newer models. I tried on everything from Bilt to Arai. I settled on an AGV K3 SV. The helmet works great and readily accepted the Sena 10S communications system. The folks at Cycle Gear installed the system in my helmet for me at no additional charge. Truth be told, they are rather simple to put in. The AGV works great for me and the Sena 10S is absolutely stellar for my needs. Good luck.
Don't look at the price label
When trying on helmets, ignore the price. Keep trying different ones until you find one that fits. (newbies, ask a good salesman or read up on how a helmet should fit). Most people at first end up getting a helmet that is too big for them. Once you find the best fitting one, then look at the price and if it's more than your budget, ask the salesman for help on similar helmets as far as head shape, size, and features.
When trying on helmets, ignore the price. Keep trying different ones until you find one that fits. (newbies, ask a good salesman or read up on how a helmet should fit). Most people at first end up getting a helmet that is too big for them. Once you find the best fitting one, then look at the price and if it's more than your budget, ask the salesman for help on similar helmets as far as head shape, size, and features.
Fat Baxter
Member
First, figure out what your head shape is -- round, round oval, intermediate oval, or long oval. This is the most important thing you need to determine. It is absolutely critical to comfort and safety.
Different helmets within major brands cater to different heads shapes. Arai in general caters to oval heads, and their Signet line is one of the very few that caters to long oval heads. Shoei does a lot of intermediate oval helmets.
Revzilla does a good job of identifying which helmets fit which head shapes. You should try several helmets, each chosen to test how its shape fits on your noggin.
For example, I've used Arai Signets for my last three helmets due to my long oval head shape. I tried a Shoei Neotec (because I really, really wanted a modular helmet), and bought their slightly larger headliner to see if that would accommodate my head. It didn't, and now I have a perfectly good Neotec sitting on my shelf.
Moral: get the proper helmet for the shape of your head.
Different helmets within major brands cater to different heads shapes. Arai in general caters to oval heads, and their Signet line is one of the very few that caters to long oval heads. Shoei does a lot of intermediate oval helmets.
Revzilla does a good job of identifying which helmets fit which head shapes. You should try several helmets, each chosen to test how its shape fits on your noggin.
For example, I've used Arai Signets for my last three helmets due to my long oval head shape. I tried a Shoei Neotec (because I really, really wanted a modular helmet), and bought their slightly larger headliner to see if that would accommodate my head. It didn't, and now I have a perfectly good Neotec sitting on my shelf.
Moral: get the proper helmet for the shape of your head.
Jeffmal
New member
End Result
First off, I want to thank everyone for their input!
I kinda put everything into a blender and came out buying a Shoei Neotec modular.
This helmet had all the bells and whistles and was very comfortable.
It was a little more than I wanted to spend but I'm sure it will be well worth it in
the long run.
Thanks again all.....
Jeff
First off, I want to thank everyone for their input!
I kinda put everything into a blender and came out buying a Shoei Neotec modular.
This helmet had all the bells and whistles and was very comfortable.
It was a little more than I wanted to spend but I'm sure it will be well worth it in
the long run.
Thanks again all.....
Jeff
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