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Heat Problem

I do not know much but I was looking at the new 2013 RT & ST and then looking at the 2010 to 2012 RT.

I see the 2010 to 2012 RT have air deflectors on both upper and lower a-frame covers? Seeing as the new 2013 models do not have them could this be why they run hotter than the older models!:dontknow:
The deflectors are now built into the front fenders and supposedly bring in more air while increasing mileage (BRP's words not mine.)
 
We have wrapped the pipes, covered gas tank, master cylinder, parking brake...built a larger heat shield to protect master cylinder ....my ST was running very lean and had a flash on the ECM to enrich the fuel....the heat is better but not fixed.....this is just a band-aide ... now the bold is on and won't go away...sorry....now the idle is rough...feels like it's going to stall or take off...called BRP service Tuesday...they closed my case...Why...the bike is not fixed...they are suppose to be calling me .....we will see
 
Going to step on it here but when people ask about buying a Spyder I tell them to stay away from the 2013's.
 
Pictures of what I did

No visible changes to the outside.
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Stacked foam barrier under the center panel.

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Added foam under left side panel. (see next post)
 
To be honest, I'm fed up with the heat from my 2012 RTS. I don't care what anyone says. These bikes are just too hot. So I bought some of this and plan on sticking it onto any plastic or metal surface I can under the seat and the tank glove box area in the hopes it will cut it down
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Heres to hoping it works. BTW, I did have the 2013 ST-L for 4 months (and boy was it a hot runnin machine) then traded it in for the 2012 RTS and not a 2013 due to all the complaints about that model so I can relate somewhat to those having issues here.
 
RE: Heat issues. Placing band aids all over under the :spyder2: does not fix the problem--IMO. It just deflects the heat somewhere else. Will it cause something to start on fire? Depends on the placement of the reflective band aid.

Once again--IMO--A machine costing as much as the :spyder2: does initially, should not require additional band aid repairs to make it rideable in hot weather. I am also hoping that the 2014's will have this problem solved--and then the retro fixes should be made to the 2013's--at no charge to the owners of the :spyder2:'s.

This appears to be pretty much an across the board problem.
 
EVERYTHING Canam makes is hotter to ride than anyone elses. Ride a Polaris Razr and then a Commander, Ride a Polaris or Honda ATV and the try an Outlander. If you rode an Outlander around the block in shorts you'll have blisters. I really haven't noticed my 2013 being any hotter than my 2010 was. I have been riding it for six weeks now though and it still has the original DPS, rear shock and throttle body on it, so not at all sorry I bought it.
 
Just went for my second ride on my 2013 ST-S, still haven't noticed any issue with heat other than with shorts on I can't leave my knees tight against the tupperware, not that i should.


Are we noticing this more after riding a certain amount of miles? All the time? Or just when it's really hot outside?


I've only ridden conservatively and 15-20 miles at a time so maybe it's just not hitting the extremes you veteran riders are?
 
:agree: Pictures could help a lot of folks... :thumbup:

:agree:I am with Mr Denhan I am trying get pix mentally about the panels involved but my age fogged brain cells don't want to cooperate.

My suggestion if those owners with the severe problems launch a major united frontal assault on BRP Corporate Headquarters that they submit their compliant's in a good letter head format started with make, model, mileage, and VIN. It may sound redundant in today's age of electronic communications. But some corporate lemming with no idea of what BRP manufacturers is going to open that envelope and have to route it some where for action by others. I would also suggest that any and all enclosures being included be listed at the bottom left hand corner and stapled to the top left hand corner so the enclosures do not get separated

It should read very plainly explaining the problem, the results rendered to date as to how they have been working with their dealer, the lack of effective solutions and their future plan if it cannot be resolved. Do not threaten to sell the piece of junk. But state if it cannot be resolved, "that will consider other avenues come time for replacement," that will get more results then hostility every time.

Being a retired Army Master Sergeant I believe I know how to push letters that get attention and action by others better then most.

You get my drift as your an old business man! Right?
 
Maybe there's a question lurking that hasn't yet been asked:
How many of you have heat issues only when the bike is stopped in traffic; versus out of the open road and cruising? :dontknow:
How many have it all of the time? :dontknow:
Okay... TWO questions! :D
 
I talked with BRP today and explained to them how bad the heat problem was on my 2013 RTS. I took my bike in to the dealer to be checked. It took me only 50 minutes to get home. By the time I arrived home, the inside of my thighs was hurting and the color of a tomato. I took pictures and sent them to BRP today with a short note. I was given a case number and an e-mail address. They also told me to work with my dealer. What can the dealer do?? It is a malfunction of the machine. BRP, the company, needs to come up with a solution. This is not my first Spyder. 2010 RS NEVER had a heat problem of any kind. We, as consumers, need to stand up and be heard. Please do not keep spending money trying to correct a problem that should not exist to begin with. You might think I am:bdh: (It is not dead to me and many others) but if you don't have a 2013, you have no idea the problem we are experiencing.
:agree: If your having Heat Problems I would do nothing to alter the machine because its BRPs Job to make it right.
Take pictures, Keep a log of dealer contacts and any Calls to BRP and do the "Lemon Law" thing if it is in effect in your state.

If BRP is Not going to do their job than you have to Document, Document, Document and seek a Fair solution for your Hard earned $$$!!nojoke
 
Perhaps it is BRP's job :shocked:...
But who cares where the fix has to originate if it gets you back out on the road quicker??
 
we have re-directed the heat sources to help with my comfort.....where it went????? BRP closed my case file....I now have rough idle problems...need to have my case file re-opened....waiting for BRP to call
 
Perhaps it is BRP's job :shocked:...
But who cares where the fix has to originate if it gets you back out on the road quicker??

I sometimes do not agree with Bob D. on issues. This one for sure. In an earlier post I mentioned that a machine costing as much as a :spyder2: does, should not have to be worked on and various "cures" initiated by the owner, in order to make the machine rideable in hot weather. The 2013's seem to be much more prone to heat issues than other years. I think this is an issue that BRP should fix. I am suggesting they are aware--but how to fix it without making waves or screwing up future production of the :ani29: is the problem--IMHO.
 
My point was not to discuss BRP's responsiblity...
The fact is; some machines feel like flamethroers.
Whose fault it is, was immaterial to the point that I was trying to make.
My response was to somebody who didn't want to touch their machine...
Bull:cus:! Find a way to make it rideable, and then ride it! If you sit on your hands waiting for somebody else to fix it; you'll be missing too much riding time! :thumbup:
 
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I sometimes do not agree with Bob D. on issues. This one for sure. In an earlier post I mentioned that a machine costing as much as a :spyder2: does, should not have to be worked on and various "cures" initiated by the owner, in order to make the machine rideable in hot weather. The 2013's seem to be much more prone to heat issues than other years. I think this is an issue that BRP should fix. I am suggesting they are aware--but how to fix it without making waves or screwing up future production of the :ani29: is the problem--IMHO.

The operative word here is should. Yes, I agree, BRP should resolve the issue. In the meantime should I stop riding while I await their solution? I think not. I found a very uncomfortable problem (a tremendous amount of heat shooting through the space around the seat lock on my 2013 RT Limited) and mitigated it (by using aluminum duct tape to seal the area around the latch.) I applaud folks who find and resolve issues, and share them with the rest of us. Yes, it would be nice should BRP address the issues, but I am neither going to stop riding or hold my breath, waiting for them to do so . . . That's my humble opinion.
 
The operative word here is should. Yes, I agree, BRP should resolve the issue. In the meantime should I stop riding while I await their solution? I think not. I found a very uncomfortable problem (a tremendous amount of heat shooting through the space around the seat lock on my 2013 RT Limited) and mitigated it (by using aluminum duct tape to seal the area around the latch.) I applaud folks who find and resolve issues, and share them with the rest of us. Yes, it would be nice should BRP address the issues, but I am neither going to stop riding or hold my breath, waiting for them to do so . . . That's my humble opinion.

You are right for sure. The operative word is should. Were I the owner of one of the "hot" 2013's, I would be expecting the dealer or BRP to take care of it. I am not mechanical, so would not be tearing the machine apart and sticking heat repeling band aids all over the place. I would not want to be accused by BRP of doing anything to cause any further problems.

What would I do? I would probably sell the 2013 and go with a different model year that I was sure of. I have owned one of every year through 2011 since they came out. I would not have a problem with a 2012 either. There, I said it publicly. No 2013 for me. The jury is still out about 2014. Guess BRP will not be calling me to be a product ambassador any time soon. :roflblack:
 
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