Have you had an ECU Flash? How long did it take? Any good?

[Geep]

Holy crap is the fan ever loud when running with Stage I

 

[Micha.]

I ll test my MaptunerX next Monday. Hope i ll get similar results. Btw. tuningfiles for the Riker are available.

i have been out today testing maptunerx stage 2 flash on my f3s daytona with 79 tooth sprocket took about 15 minutes to install.tune only effects sport mode so its easy to switch between stock and stage 2 tune to compare. throttle response is more linear right up to the rev limiter no more bogging down above 6000 rpm and below 2500 rpm as soon as you enter sport mode you can hear the engine tone change after coming back from a 200 mile ride to let the ecu build the fuel tables i did 2 runs on the same road in different directions stock top speed on gps 125.6 mph maptunerx stage 2 top speed on gps 136.8 before i had to slow down for traffic i need to find a better clear police free road but there getting rare in these parts now. she was still pulling strong when i had to slow down so i think more testing is needed. very happy with the maptunerx tune plus i can read and clear error codes and reset ecu history if i need warranty work doing:yes:

 

[Hypurone]

Holy crap is the fan ever loud when running with Stage I

One of the reasons I am still running my "original" Stage 1.... I couldn't deal with them running constantly.

 

[MikeP]

I have over 700 miles on the Monster Stage 2 flash and have not experienced the fans coming on any more than the pre flash configuration..
Zero negatives in my experience YRMV...
Very satisfied customer here..
I never even bothered with the stage 1 because I knew about the stage 2 coming..
I did not want to deal with the back and forth issues..
One stop shopping for me and for all marbles..
Again,,, Zero regret and the best bang for buck on any car,, motorcycle modification in 47 + years of doing it..

 

[Peteoz]

Same here with Jase’s Aussie stage 2 tune, Mike :dontknow:

Pete

I have over 700 miles on the Monster Stage 2 flash and have not experienced the fans coming on any more than the pre flash configuration..
Zero negatives in my experience YRMV...
Very satisfied customer here..
I never even bothered with the stage 1 because I knew about the stage 2 coming..
I did not want to deal with the back and forth issues..
One stop shopping for me and for all marbles..
Again,,, Zero regret and the best bang for buck on any car,, motorcycle modification in 47 + years of doing it..

 

[Dennis in Lodi]

I have been testing flashes for Monster fuel since the beginning of this journey. I have two ECUs, stage 1 and 2.Both ECUs are dialed in and it's kind of cool that they are plug and play. It's really hard to tell which is which but here is two things that separate the flashes.
1. stage 1 has more instant starting power. from a dead stop, it breaks the wheel loose with straight throttle. It's hit and miss if stage 2 will break loose. I don't think this translates to a real staring advantage for either flash. But, I can tell them apart by starting power.
2. Mid range cruising around, mixed traffic, higher gears I can't tell any advantage or disadvantage between the flashes.
3. OK, things start to happen which are real nice in the upper rpm range with the stage 2 flash. It seems to start to separate from stage 1 around 6,800 rpm. But what it does really different for performance is how cleanly it pulls to red line. Stage 1 is flat going from 7,600 rpm to red line but stage 2 really shines in this area. To me it feels like 5 to 6 hp more in this area of the rpm range.

Dennis

Just my opinion from my testing. This is cold weather driving and Iv'e only heard the fan come on once.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I have been testing flashes for Monster fuel since the beginning of this journey. I have two ECUs, stage 1 and 2.Both ECUs are dialed in and it's kind of cool that they are plug and play. It's really hard to tell which is which but here is two things that separate the flashes.
1. stage 1 has more instant starting power. from a dead stop, it breaks the wheel loose with straight throttle. It's hit and miss if stage 2 will break loose. I don't think this translates to a real staring advantage for either flash. But, I can tell them apart by starting power.
2. Mid range cruising around, mixed traffic, higher gears I can't tell any advantage or disadvantage between the flashes.
3. OK, things start to happen which are real nice in the upper rpm range with the stage 2 flash. It seems to start to separate from stage 1 around 6,800 rpm. But what it does really different for performance is how cleanly it pulls to red line. Stage 1 is flat going from 7,600 rpm to red line but stage 2 really shines in this area. To me it feels like 5 to 6 hp more in this area of the rpm range.

Dennis

Just my opinion from my testing. This is cold weather driving and Iv'e only heard the fan come on once.

Thanks for the review and up-date …… from personal experience with combustion engines …. if you can FEEL it, I think it's quite a bit MORE than 5-6 HP ………. this is approx. 6-7% increase in power and it would have a very small effect on what you would be able to feel ….JMHO … Mike hyea:

 

[canamjhb]

Thank you, Dennis. I am looking for more power/acceleration while passing when I am cruising and pulling my trailer. That will be in the 3500-7000 RPM range (60-90 MPH) I don't need more top speed or to be able to burn the tires. RPM increase is not important to me as I don't approach what I already have. I am now convinced that stage-1 is the appropriate mod for me..... Unless advised otherwise..... Jim

 

[Micha.]

Here are my test results with the MaptunerX on my F3 2017 third gear from 60 to 140 km / h. Stock Retracted stage 1. Stage 2 (K & N, Straight Shot ESD) not yet retracted.

First measurement
Default: 7:01 seconds
Stage 1: 6:22 seconds
Stage 2: 6:13 seconds

Second measurement (slightly uphill)
Default: 7:07 seconds
Stage 1: 7:04 seconds
Stage 2: 6:20 seconds

80 - 120 km / h in seconds with a flying start

Default: 03:25
Stage 2: 02:29

I would have expected a little more power. What do you mean?

 

[Spyder555]

Micha, it will be interesting to see the measurement with stage 1 including K&N, straight Shot ESD. ;-)

 

[ddjim]

maptunerx has a new stage 2 AGR tune available

 

[Batmobil-F3]

Sebastian from Germany posted a video about Maptuner X on Youtube. A comparison on an F3-S, Stock with Stage 2 (Akrapovic Sinister exhaust and K&N air filter). Stage 2 with 20 hp more power than the stock. Here are the results (PDF file with best resolution):

Stock


Stage 2

 

[Micha.]

maptunerx has a new stage 2 AGR tune available

What does AGR mean? Is a hardware change necessary? What does STAGE 2 bring to Horsepower?

 

[ddjim]

What does AGR mean? Is a hardware change necessary? What does STAGE 2 bring to Horsepower?

agr stands for aggressive.just slipon exhaust required. i went out testing the new stage 2 AGR tune on Sunday and had a problem with the throttle cutting out over 95% throttle application. i have been in contact with victor at maptun and he said he will have a engine calibration technician take a look at it. so back to stage 2 for now.

 

[Micha.]

Thank you. Information from the manufacturer: Aggressive throttle response. Means the throttle opens faster / further at lower throttle position. Where some files are still in the development phase, which is why a normal Stage 2 is still recommended.

 

[ddjim]

the stage 2 agr tune has been updated today. i have been out for a quick test and i must say i am impressed throttle response is a lot snappier feels a lot more like a cable throttle now rather than ride by wire. the previous problem i had with the agr tune is now fixed

 

[AY4B]

Are ECU's interchangeable with other spyders? I read a post where someone had 2 ECU's, One with stage 1 and the other with stage 2.

 

[Jetfixer]

Are ECU's interchangeable with other spyders? I read a post where someone had 2 ECU's, One with stage 1 and the other with stage 2.

As long as you have both/all ECU's programmed the same for all the other functions, it wouldn't be any different than if you had a replacement engine.

 

[AY4B]

As long as you have both/all ECU's programmed the same for all the other functions, it wouldn't be any different than if you had a replacement engine.

So lets say if I buy a second ECU and air filter cover, I could switch between tunes?

 

[jcthorne]

So lets say if I buy a second ECU and air filter cover, I could switch between tunes?

IF the second ECU was programmed to YOUR bike. you cannot swap ECUs among bikes without programming changes.