Guy flipped his Ryker riding in reverse

[mrNewt]

3 wheel safety courses... everyone should get one at least.

 

[KC61]

I took the 3 wheel safety training course and they has us doing emergency maneuvers on Spyder F3s and I would say you are completely wrong in that statement. Three wheeled bikes like the Ryker and Spyder that have two wheels in the front are EXTREMELY safe in emergency maneuvers when going forward.

It comes down to physics and force vectors. When you turn your wheels hard to the left or right, the weight of your bike is going to try to keep going straight. With the opposing two front wheels, your outermost turning wheel and suspension will take the brunt of the force vector.
With a trike that has only one wheel in the front, there is no wheel or suspension to handle that forward force vector....and that's why they will roll in emergency maneuvers.

What is it I'm wrong about?

 

[jcthorne]

Not sure what that has to do with the post, but ok, if you say so. My experience is the tri-glides easily keep up in the twisties but again not really relevant.

Our experience in our riding club is that neither they nor the wing trikes can keep up in the twisties. Slows the whole group down waiting for them. They cannot stop and cannot turn near as well as a conventional bike, much less a Spyder.

 

[Markubis]

What is it I'm wrong about?

I thought you were grouping the Rykers and Spyders into the trike category. Was I wrong? If so, I apologize.

 

[nchangin]

Nope, gotta use common sense. Which this guy is obviously lacking.

and proudly put it on a world accessible platform. **head shake**

 

[KC61]

I thought you were grouping the Rykers and Spyders into the trike category. Was I wrong? If so, I apologize.

Negative Ghost Rider, but that's OK. I know what your sayin.

 

[PaladinLV]

Spyder isn't an ATV and was never meant to "ride" on slopes.
BTW, the "slope" in a curve is not the same as a SLOPE off road!
Spyder may be fool proof but they are not IDIOT proof.

AJ

Per the post title, this guy (Daniel from NJ) says he flipped his Ryker while reversing too fast on a slope. Based upon the damage I assume it flipped onto its side, not a full roll.

I can see how that could happen, could probably happen in forwards motion on a curve in a slope too. I assume the electronics work to prevent this in forward gear, wonder if they are programmed to do so in reverse.

Anyway, be careful. We call it a toy but like any toy, have to respect the power of the device. Daniel is an admitted new rider and he isn’t bashing the Ryker. I’ve seen several of his videos previously and he seems to be quite happy with his bike. Hopefully he doesn’t sour on things but learns to respect the ride while learning.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd6p5GXXacA

 

[ChicagoSpyder]

Same on snowmobiles when they started getting reverse. I saw several rolls that way. It's just too easy to move the center of gravity outside of the stability triangle, in reverse.

That video brought back some memories and laughs, could have been me you saw as I've put a sled on its side once....... or maybe twice in reverse :roflblack:

 

[Vader]

Here was my reply to the video on Youtube...
"I wonder what the manual says regarding ryding in reverse,downhill, and then giving it way too much gas? Your inexperience caused this accident, and lucky for you, it did not result in an injury. Taking a course could have helped, but when I watched the video of you right before the accident, you had your feet down. Now, I have over 15K on my Spyder 2008GS. The only time I have my feet on the ground is when I am getting on, and, getting off the machine. Bottom line...take a course. Read the manual. Next time you may not be so lucky."

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

To my understanding, there is no Nanny in reverse.

Don't know about the Ryker, but with the RT Nanny still functions, at least to some degree. Speed is limited to 9 mph in reverse, but that's probably still fast enough to flip the Spyder if you turn sharp enough.

 

[mrNewt]

Sooo.... if you drive a reverse trike in reverse... will that make your reverse trike a... "normal" trike!?

:gaah:

 

[Vader]

Unfortunately I decided to watch a few more videos that this guy has put up. If you need a good laugh, from a person who has decided to not take a course, has never ridden a motorcycle, not sure if he has a license, suffered two cracked ribs from this incident(his words) and really has very little time on a Ryker, go watch. I'm just happy I do not live or ride near him...