Guts and Glory Rally

[BajaRon]

I just read through the site and I'm thinking about it.:spyder:


If BajaRon would do it with me I would most likely make the jump. opcorn:

Baja-Who??? :dontknow:

 

[BajaRon]

I just read through the site and I'm thinking about it.:spyder:
If BajaRon would do it with me I would most likely make the jump. opcorn:

They don't make any promises but it could be done. Not sure where you're going to find this Baja-Guy though....:dontknow:

8. May I ride with a friend together throughout the rally ?
Each rider will be given an entry number when accepted into the rally, submission of application and payment. If both the riders submit at approximately the same time then the chances of being in the same starting group are high. If the two riders enter the check point and finish that leg basically together then the chances of receiving the same start time for the next leg will be high and so on through out the rally.

 

[SpyderWolf]

I think Dudley posted that they went 13,000 miles before an oil change before and didn't have any troubles. Of course he did not recommend it, but if you are using a full synthetic, and change it just before starting this adventure, it might not be all that bad. I was also calculating the cost of fuel if I was to run, and having to basically stop every 100 miles would be quite costly as well. :dontknow:

I read the FAQ, but did not fully grasp the fact there will be separate starting groups, and you may end up having to stay with that group the entire time. Since it is a timed event, I don't really see anyway you could break away from them, and still reach the next check point when you were supposed to. :dontknow:

 

[BajaRon]

I think Dudley posted that they went 13,000 miles before an oil change before and didn't have any troubles. Of course he did not recommend it, but if you are using a full synthetic, and change it just before starting this adventure, it might not be all that bad. I was also calculating the cost of fuel if I was to run, and having to basically stop every 100 miles would be quite costly as well. :dontknow:

I read the FAQ, but did not fully grasp the fact there will be separate starting groups, and you may end up having to stay with that group the entire time. Since it is a timed event, I don't really see anyway you could break away from them, and still reach the next check point when you were supposed to. :dontknow:

I agree though I'm not sure about going 13K on an oil change there are 2 things going for extending the oil change.

1- High Quality, Full Synthetic Oil
2- High Mileage over a very short time.

Stop and go driving, starting a cold engine and time sitting between runs are what kill oil.

I'd be very comfortable with going 6k on an oil change under the conditions of this Guts-n-Glory ride. So for me (not that I'm going) I'd change it in CA before leaving and then at about the 6K mark which would probably be after leg 6 or leg 7.

 

[effgjamis]

Just a point to ponder:

If you have to stay with the group that you start with at beginning, and all check points.... Who's the winner??

 

[BajaRon]

Just a point to ponder:

If you have to stay with the group that you start with at beginning, and all check points.... Who's the winner??

I Would say that everyone will be separated by at least 1 second as there is probably a single file 'Finish Line' at each check point.

Still, that doesn't mean you can't have a tie. But it will be very unlikely.

Doc will probaby arrive 3 hours early, park a block from the finish line, have a nice, leasurely meal, watch something on the TV and then drive the last few hundred feet to finish at the correct time.

 

[BajaRon]

That will not work because only the "independent timing company" will know how long it should take to complete each leg. This is discussed on the Details page.

True, but arriving 3 hours early isn't going to get Doc any points either.

I mearly meant, I don't think Doc can run the speed limit for 9k+ miles. But he could estimate (based on a GPS arrival time plus stop allotments) and just roll over the finish line then regardless of how fast he ran the leg.

This is an example of eating your cake and having it too!

 

[docdoru]

This is an example of eating your cake and having it too!

:agree: with Ron "the Myndreader"...
IMHO they are going to split the riders into small groups (about 50) and delay the start point for each group (30 min?).
One can only imagine how 1,000 bikes on the road looks like...double the number from Magog, Quebec. In within the small group of 50 bikes, there are going to have different stops for gas, mechanical and physiological necessities; in the 15-17 hours leg, there are going to be big differences at the arrival point.
My goals are: 1. finish each leg and 2. in the shortest ryding time. pps:

 

[SpyderWolf]

:agree: with Ron "the Myndreader"...
IMHO they are going to split the riders into small groups (about 50) and delay the start point for each group (30 min?).
One can only imagine how 1,000 bikes on the road looks like...double the number from Magog, Quebec. In within the small group of 50 bikes, there are going to have different stops for gas, mechanical and physiological necessities; in the 15-17 hours leg, there are going to be big differences at the arrival point.
My goals are: 1. finish each leg and 2. in the shortest ryding time. pps:

Yes, but you must remember that for each minute you are early or late, based upon the independent groups time, you will be penalized points. However, you may be able to make those points up if you are willing to sleep under the stars and forego the provided accomodations. :dontknow:

 

[Lamonster]

If I do this run it won't be to win, it will be to finish. My guess is less than half will complete this run. This will not only kill a bike that is not in shape for this run but it could kill a rider too. nojoke

This is a hardcore run and when the rubber hits the road you'll see riders dropping like flies. I'm not sure I can hang or not but it would be great to give it a try and if I did make it you can bet there would be some great stories along the way. :doorag:

Right now Fred Rau and I are talking about riding together as a RT5 riding event. opcorn:

 

[SpyderWolf]

If I do this run it won't be to win, it will be to finish. My guess is less than half will complete this run. This will not only kill a bike that is not in shape for this run but it could kill a rider too. nojoke

This is a hardcore run and when the rubber hits the road you'll see riders dropping like flies. I'm not sure I can hang or not but it would be great to give it a try and if I did make it you can bet there would be some great stories along the way. :doorag:

Right now Fred Rau and I are talking about riding together as a RT5 riding event. opcorn:

Those are very good points about how challenging this run will actually be. I also think it might help a whole lot to have someone riding with you that you know and trust. It could be a huge help when the going gets rough on this journey.

 

[docdoru]

Right now Fred Rau and I are talking about riding together as a RT5 riding event. opcorn:

That would be nice, 2 RT's vs. 2 RS's...Place Your Bets! :thumbup:

 

[effgjamis]

That would be nice, 2 RT's vs. 2 RS's...Place Your Bets! :thumbup:

If I go for the ride I am going for the WIN. $ are to short not to shoot for the win.

Yes I agree with what has been said that the ride will be a tough one. First half, 3-6 ,egs will make a believer out of the week end rider, legs 7-8 will most likely see the hard core riders making up the path to finish, it will be up to the bike to carry them forward.
My big concern is parts and service availablity to us non-RT-5 ( brp ) spyder riders. I would hope that we all get fair and same consideration on an equal basis as the ride itself is going to be difficult to say the least.

 

[docdoru]

For a group of aprox 10-12 Spyders we can hire a technical person driving a car/truck with parts (oil, filters, tires etc). opcorn:

 

[BajaRon]

...physiological necessities...

Love your word selection Doc, been to school much? :roflblack:

 

[BajaRon]

Those are very good points about how challenging this run will actually be. I also think it might help a whole lot to have someone riding with you that you know and trust. It could be a huge help when the going gets rough on this journey.

Absolutely! :agree::agree::agree:

This sounds great and a lot of people will jump in. But questions about ape hangers, etc., indicate that people are thinking with their imagination and not their butt!

This is going to be serious!

After a few long days (15-18 hours) in the saddle and a time schedule that isn't going to give you much time to walk off the aches and pains, you're going to see reality working its way up from the buns to the brains. After 6 or 7 days of this even they guys with clenched teeth are going to throw in the towel I think.

And this doesn't even count mechanical issues or getting sick.

I'd love to do it. I am pretty sure I could hang but you never know till you try. I'd want to ride with someone compatible. Even then nerves can get freyed and friends can get sideways too.

All in all it is going to be a big test of rider, machine and in some cases, friendship.

 

[docdoru]

... you're going to see reality working its way up from the buns to the brains...

 

[Lamonster]

Absolutely! :agree::agree::agree:

This sounds great and a lot of people will jump in. But questions about ape hangers, etc., indicate that people are thinking with their imagination and not their butt!

This is going to be serious!

After a few long days (15-18 hours) in the saddle and a time schedule that isn't going to give you much time to walk off the aches and pains, you're going to see reality working its way up from the buns to the brains. After 6 or 7 days of this even they guys with clenched teeth are going to throw in the towel I think.

And this doesn't even count mechanical issues or getting sick.

I'd love to do it. I am pretty sure I could hang but you never know till you try. I'd want to ride with someone compatible. Even then nerves can get freyed and friends can get sideways too.

All in all it is going to be a big test of rider, machine and in some cases, friendship.

:agree:
This will be a "Rode hard and put away wet" ride for sure. :helpsmilie:

 

[BajaRon]

For a ride like this Rally, I think it's important to be able to see where you're going and where you've been.

 

[spydr rydr]

The way I look at it, I pay $1000 for the entry fee, I get 14 nights accommidations, a kick off party in LA, a concert in Bar Harbor, a digital camera, meet new people and the bragging rights that a Can-Am whipped all those loud A$$ harley. This goes beyond the rider. It also goes to the bragging rights of a manufacture. I think if those of us are serious about riding in this event, we should contact Can Am and talk to them about a sponsorship and maybe some support at checkpoints. Tell them about the bragging rights for their products. Heck if that won't fire them up then maybe we should get a different brand. All in all, the last charity to come on board with the Gut and Glory Rally makes it totally legit to me. Shriners Hospital for Children. Now the Shriners will not sign with just anyone. Just a thought.

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