ground connection

[exwinger]

Forgive me for asking this question again . I know I've seen the answer here in another thread but I've looked and looked and can't find it. Once you've screwed up and loosened the ground connection....how do you retighten ? I always thought they were talking about the neg term on the battery itself when they say be careful loosening. I thought the frame connection was a bolt going into the frame but obviously was wrong. Can someone point me to the correct thread please ?? Thanks

 

[Big Arm]

This seems to be a fairly common problem, unfortunately !!!!
I can't point you to the right link, but I do remember reading, you need to get a wrench on the underside nut, and several have had to bend the wrench to get it into the proper spot.
I guess I just can't understand, after this problem happening so may times, why BRP just doesn't weld that nut into place during manufacturing. :dontknow:

 

[TuckMiddle]

Neg Ground

Well, not that I've ever done anything like that, but I've seen the problem fixed by getting a grandson, oops, helper, giving him the biggest flat blade screw driver (2 feet in length is good) in the neighborhood and have the flat blade put between the nut and the "stringer" that is next to it. This is an act that your helper performs on his back on the garage floor, screwdriver in one hand, flashlight in the other and his body twisted up like a double pretzel. The other person, the perpetrator of the incident, can use a socket "up top" to gently turn the bolt head and the nut will magically procede up the bolt and be tightened. Do not rush, as your helper might lose the leverage from the screw driver and the nut will just turn. In this case, have your helper insert the flat blade to gain the leverage again and you can finish up. I've heard a rumor that this is about impossible to do by yourself or even with your wife as your assistant. It's a rumor that she will quickly realize how stupid you have been and start nagging you about having to help. Again, this is an unverified rumor going around the "hood."
:banghead:
Tuck

 

[StriperKing]

With the side panel removed you can get a fairly thin 10mm wrench on the nut without a lot of problems if you hold the wrench with two fingers. :shocked:

 

[fastfraser]

Well, not that I've ever done anything like that, but I've seen the problem fixed by getting a grandson, oops, helper, giving him the biggest flat blade screw driver (2 feet in length is good) in the neighborhood and have the flat blade put between the nut and the "stringer" that is next to it. This is an act that your helper performs on his back on the garage floor, screwdriver in one hand, flashlight in the other and his body twisted up like a double pretzel. The other person, the perpetrator of the incident, can use a socket "up top" to gently turn the bolt head and the nut will magically procede up the bolt and be tightened. Do not rush, as your helper might lose the leverage from the screw driver and the nut will just turn. In this case, have your helper insert the flat blade to gain the leverage again and you can finish up. I've heard a rumor that this is about impossible to do by yourself or even with your wife as your assistant. It's a rumor that she will quickly realize how stupid you have been and start nagging you about having to help. Again, this is an unverified rumor going around the "hood."
:banghead:
Tuck

If ever anyone ever does this, I'll refer them to this post .:roflblack::roflblack:

 

[GeoffCee]

Well, not that I've ever done anything like that, but I've seen the problem fixed by getting a grandson, oops, helper, giving him the biggest flat blade screw driver (2 feet in length is good) in the neighborhood and have the flat blade put between the nut and the "stringer" that is next to it. This is an act that your helper performs on his back on the garage floor, screwdriver in one hand, flashlight in the other and his body twisted up like a double pretzel. The other person, the perpetrator of the incident, can use a socket "up top" to gently turn the bolt head and the nut will magically procede up the bolt and be tightened. Do not rush, as your helper might lose the leverage from the screw driver and the nut will just turn. In this case, have your helper insert the flat blade to gain the leverage again and you can finish up. I've heard a rumor that this is about impossible to do by yourself or even with your wife as your assistant. It's a rumor that she will quickly realize how stupid you have been and start nagging you about having to help. Again, this is an unverified rumor going around the "hood."
:banghead:
Tuck

Would you kindly relate your work-around solutions to some of the other engineering problems you've encountered? We enjoyed hearing about this one so much. Your description of your grandson "twisted up like a double pretzel with screwdriver in hand" had my wife, Alice and me, laughing until we cried! :roflblack:

 

[exwinger]

Drats

Immediately after applying the wrench I felt a pang of terror . Now the terror has increased to include heavy breathing and chest pains. I either use a prybar and someone I won't have as a friend anymore after the operation or resort to taking off tupperwarem and hopefully getting a wrench on the nut. The thread I remember had said there was a way to prevent the problem in the future ( other than never loosening the nut ) . This nut not being welded has to be one of the dumbest things they did , especially since you can't easily get to it. Why did they not just thread into the frame ???? What a way to celebrate the start of the new year...LOL Now back to to searching the threads and see if I can find something....not looking forward to the 2' prybar method and the pretzel......... but your solution did make me laugh , and thanks.

 

[NorthStar]

thread link

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?18345-Electrical-Ground-Under-Seat&highlight=ground bolt


http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?33405-Who-s-the-FRIGGIN-IDIOT&highlight=negative+ground


Here are a few of the threads related to your issue.

 

[Gordy]

when i had to tighten mine I heated a 10mm wrench and bent it nearly into the shape of a u that worked ok.kept the wrench in case I ever have to tighten it again

 

[exwinger]

Missing threads

Thanks Northstar.....These were the threads I couldn't find. I was wondering if the hole was threaded , now I wonder why they didn't utilize it. Oh well , some things are just better left unanswered. I'm going to strip the tupperware and remove the bolt and nut and toss them and use the threaded existing hole. I was even thinking about drilling a new hole and threading it until I read these threads. Thanks to all that responded.

 

[NancysToy]

Thanks Northstar.....These were the threads I couldn't find. I was wondering if the hole was threaded , now I wonder why they didn't utilize it. Oh well , some things are just better left unanswered. I'm going to strip the tupperware and remove the bolt and nut and toss them and use the threaded existing hole. I was even thinking about drilling a new hole and threading it until I read these threads. Thanks to all that responded.

The hole is threaded, but a smaller bolt is fitted, to fit the standard wire terminals available. Hogging out the terminals slightly decreases the contact area and increases the terminal resistance, and it also removes part of the coating on coated terminals, and increases the risk of corrosion. I can't say with certainty, but I suspect the hole is threaded to allow attachment of a bracket to carry the frame down the assembly line, and they just made good use of the hole. IMO, you would be better off to tighten the bolt and just refrain from loosening it again.

 

[boborgera]

IMO, you would be better off to tighten the bolt and just refrain from loosening it again.

Then what fun would that be,
These threads on how to tighten that nut make for interesting reads. :roflblack: