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Giving up.
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Bob Denman
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Shaku, :2thumbs: I'm real glad to hear that you're taking a long look at solutions as opposed to the "Fifty Dollar Sale". :firstplace: Some of life's greatest satisfacitons can simply come from figuring something out... :thumbup: Lots of more good luck to you!
MouthPiece
Banged Up Member
I hope it all works out for you in the end. Now that I am on my second Spyder- went from and RS to an RT - I am sort of an experienced guy but on a new model that behaves different.
I too carry weight up high- 6' 9" and about 305. I've gotten very used to it hunting as it goes along but I do find I move around a lot too.
Sometimes I move to just help circulation, and as I wiggle the Can Am does too. Other times- such as when riding in wind, passing trucks etc. I find that I now automatically lean my upper body in anticipation of lane changes. First I lean left, then I steer left, make my pass, lean right, steer right and as I get back to the center of the lane I ma heading for I anticipate again and lean a little left to center in the lane and end the move to the right that got me there.
It all becomes part of muscle memory you might say, and I don't really think about it, but I know it happens- I lean first and bring the bike along after. If you have ridden on Spyders for a while do you find yourself doing this too? anyone?
As for wind gusts my body responds and leans into them. All of this makes for a steady ride. I wouldn't say it wanders any more than my old Ford Falcon did....
I too carry weight up high- 6' 9" and about 305. I've gotten very used to it hunting as it goes along but I do find I move around a lot too.
Sometimes I move to just help circulation, and as I wiggle the Can Am does too. Other times- such as when riding in wind, passing trucks etc. I find that I now automatically lean my upper body in anticipation of lane changes. First I lean left, then I steer left, make my pass, lean right, steer right and as I get back to the center of the lane I ma heading for I anticipate again and lean a little left to center in the lane and end the move to the right that got me there.
It all becomes part of muscle memory you might say, and I don't really think about it, but I know it happens- I lean first and bring the bike along after. If you have ridden on Spyders for a while do you find yourself doing this too? anyone?
As for wind gusts my body responds and leans into them. All of this makes for a steady ride. I wouldn't say it wanders any more than my old Ford Falcon did....
MouthPiece
Banged Up Member
I hope it all works out for you in the end. Now that I am on my second Spyder- went from and RS to an RT - I am sort of an experienced guy but on a new model that behaves different.
I too carry weight up high- 6' 9" and about 305. I've gotten very used to it hunting as it goes along but I do find I move around a lot too.
Sometimes I move to just help circulation, and as I wiggle the Can Am does too. Other times- such as when riding in wind, passing trucks etc. I find that I now automatically lean my upper body in anticipation of lane changes. First I lean left, then I steer left, make my pass, lean right, steer right and as I get back to the center of the lane I ma heading for I anticipate again and lean a little left to center in the lane and end the move to the right that got me there.
It all becomes part of muscle memory you might say, and I don't really think about it, but I know it happens- I lean first and bring the bike along after. If you have ridden on Spyders for a while do you find yourself doing this too? anyone?
As for wind gusts my body responds and leans into them. All of this makes for a steady ride. I wouldn't say it wanders any more than my old Ford Falcon did....
Otis Smith, general manager of the Orlando Magic and stands about 6'9" or 6' 10" saw my RT-S with the Corbin seat. He loved it. He asked my dealer if Corbin could custom fit him with a seat "Lamonster Cut" that would accomodate his height. They said yes and he is a soon to be "happy camper" on his RT-S with a Corbin seat. Bottom line is that it seats you in so that you don't slide around and with the customization your legs will fit.
Chris
SpyderAnn01
Active member
I agree! Yesterday I rode in very stiff crosswind on the expressway. I was thinking about this thread while I was riding and wanted to post something but I couldn't put into words how I handle the wind. As you say it all becomes part of muscle memory. One thing for sure is that you have to be paying attention so that gusts don't catch you off guard but this is true for anything you may be driving on a windy day.It all becomes part of muscle memory you might say, and I don't really think about it, but I know it happens- I lean first and bring the bike along after. If you have ridden on Spyders for a while do you find yourself doing this too? anyone?As for wind gusts my body responds and leans into them. All of this makes for a steady ride. I wouldn't say it wanders any more than my old Ford Falcon did....
Bob Denman
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I think that I just kind of pinch my knees in against the "tank".
ThreeWheels
Active member
Good luck and keep us posted.
I posted a link to the thread I had started about my front end handling problems.
After the recent re-alignment with the new alignment tool, the final solution for me was correcting teh loose battery cables. Everything finally seems to be settled out for me, so you should have a good outcome as well.
Good luck and keep us posted.
Spyder#353
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$4,999.99 and I'll come pick it up and ride it home. nojoke
Weave2u
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I wish you the best Shaku... stick to it... don't give up, it will work out. It took me a bit to get used to my Spyder. I drive it to work everyday, through Mojave, which is supposed to be one of the windiest cities in the country. I used to look at the wind forecasts and then decide if I would take it to work. But, since I've gotten used to it, I don't even bother. The first few weeks I drove the Spyder, the inside of my thighs were killing me, LOL... I was gripping that thing so tight...LOL, now, I'm comfortable and rarely do any "white knuckling" LOL!!
murphybrown
New member
Ryding in wind thru Ellensburg
Shaku thought of you when the wind was screaming as I went thru Ellensburg today (the wind turbines were realllllly turning)...anyway am sure you are familiar with EB's wind...was on Ms Spyder going speed limit (65+)...and started paying attention to how I ryde when wind is trying to push me around...and then those dang trucks on top of it...I still ryde with a lite touch on handlebars, BUT definitely more cognizant of what's happening...grip tank area fairly tight with my knees and lower legs up against machine...certainly not my relaxed stance...ok, yep definitely handle wind different than no wind...but I do that in whatever I am driving...
Bruce have any answers for you...
Shaku thought of you when the wind was screaming as I went thru Ellensburg today (the wind turbines were realllllly turning)...anyway am sure you are familiar with EB's wind...was on Ms Spyder going speed limit (65+)...and started paying attention to how I ryde when wind is trying to push me around...and then those dang trucks on top of it...I still ryde with a lite touch on handlebars, BUT definitely more cognizant of what's happening...grip tank area fairly tight with my knees and lower legs up against machine...certainly not my relaxed stance...ok, yep definitely handle wind different than no wind...but I do that in whatever I am driving...
Bruce have any answers for you...
Sometimes when we age, doctors begin to treat us with prophylactic medications. You know, like statins, hypertension medications, aspirin, etc etc. Some Beta blockers can cause symptoms that make us feel unstable during quick movements such as helmet buffeting from wind or create slowed mental responses like being in a fog. This too, can cause a feeling of instability.
I am not saying that this is what your are experiencing. I am suggesting that if the spyder checks out, there may be other factors involved to look at and address as you rule out items one by one.
I am not getting older but my wife is. lol
I am not saying that this is what your are experiencing. I am suggesting that if the spyder checks out, there may be other factors involved to look at and address as you rule out items one by one.
I am not getting older but my wife is. lol
murphybrown
New member
Holy Crap I knew there was a reason why I don't take drugs....there is enough mental fog with aging....unstable with quick movements??? Yep that would be me.and I can't pop a squat anymore without falling over (whoops TMI!!!).
.they tell me Wii will help...so guess I will spend some $$ on that and then I can balance like I did when I was 20...oh yea, I wasn't very good then either..oh well...guess I will just grip tighter as I ryde in the wind...:roflblack::roflblack:
.they tell me Wii will help...so guess I will spend some $$ on that and then I can balance like I did when I was 20...oh yea, I wasn't very good then either..oh well...guess I will just grip tighter as I ryde in the wind...:roflblack::roflblack:
GeoffCee
New member
A couple of years ago a stroke left me with a balance problem; it stopped me riding motorcycles which I had been doing for over 45 years. I heard about the Spyder, took a look and booked a test ride. That short ride demonstrated two things; I didn't have a balance problem when riding it and that the Spyder was neither a car nor a motorcycle. Pretty obvious, huh?
I was intrigued enough to figure out why it felt so different, at least to my own satisfaction. The following has no scientific basis, they are just my feelings...
In a car your seat has side supports which prevents your upper body from sliding about left and right in sympathy with the G-forces of cornering. The pull on your body is also lessened because you are in a sitting position, having your legs stuck out in front of you reduces your C of G. Anybody who has had a ride standing up in the back of a pickup truck will know all about cornering forces!
When sitting astride the Spyder your whole body is subjected to side-to-side G-forces without any mechanical restraint. Other than the resistance you are able to apply through holding on tight to the bars and using the strength in your shoulders to shift some of your upper body weight in opposition to the forces of cornering, you swing left and right exactly like a pendulum when cornering, with the pivoting point around your upper thighs. It helps to feel more secure if you grip The Spyder with your knees.
Cornering on a motorcycle produces almost no pendulum effects because the rider and bike lean over together and the C of G runs straight down in a line from the top of the rider's head to the contact patch of his tyres. Bikers often express a feeling of being "at one" with their machines and in this sense their feelings are true. I've heard it said that it is possible, (though obviously not advisable), to corner a motorcycle without touching the bars, shifting the rider's weight alone. :shocked:
The Spyder's reversed trike layout doesn't lend itself to an easy learning experience for the new owner, but as a ride its idiosyncrasies can be adapted to, overcome and eventually enjoyed. It is such an unusual ride that it sometimes takes the owner some time to adjust. Apparently some continue to feel uncomfortable with it and offer up their Spyder for 5 bucks! :spyder::roflblack:
I was intrigued enough to figure out why it felt so different, at least to my own satisfaction. The following has no scientific basis, they are just my feelings...
In a car your seat has side supports which prevents your upper body from sliding about left and right in sympathy with the G-forces of cornering. The pull on your body is also lessened because you are in a sitting position, having your legs stuck out in front of you reduces your C of G. Anybody who has had a ride standing up in the back of a pickup truck will know all about cornering forces!
When sitting astride the Spyder your whole body is subjected to side-to-side G-forces without any mechanical restraint. Other than the resistance you are able to apply through holding on tight to the bars and using the strength in your shoulders to shift some of your upper body weight in opposition to the forces of cornering, you swing left and right exactly like a pendulum when cornering, with the pivoting point around your upper thighs. It helps to feel more secure if you grip The Spyder with your knees.
Cornering on a motorcycle produces almost no pendulum effects because the rider and bike lean over together and the C of G runs straight down in a line from the top of the rider's head to the contact patch of his tyres. Bikers often express a feeling of being "at one" with their machines and in this sense their feelings are true. I've heard it said that it is possible, (though obviously not advisable), to corner a motorcycle without touching the bars, shifting the rider's weight alone. :shocked:
The Spyder's reversed trike layout doesn't lend itself to an easy learning experience for the new owner, but as a ride its idiosyncrasies can be adapted to, overcome and eventually enjoyed. It is such an unusual ride that it sometimes takes the owner some time to adjust. Apparently some continue to feel uncomfortable with it and offer up their Spyder for 5 bucks! :spyder::roflblack:
Lamonster
SpyderLovers Founder
I've posted this a few times that the seat will make it handle better. When I go from my Corbin to a stock seat I tend to wonder a bit because it's like sitting on a ball and your butt can move back and forth on the seat and that puts input to the bars. When you lock in your butt you don't have that problem.
Sounds like you're heading in the right direction. :doorag:
Thanks to everyone for the helpful posts! The bat-cycle (I named it that because it drives me batty) is in the shop at this moment and I am waiting to hear what, if anything, they found. Patdcop: What an eye opener! I had never even thought about the hypertension drugs I take. Although I have been on the same meds through a lot of quad and Wing riding, the short, quick skips are unique to the Spyder. I will factor the meds idea into my experiments. The post on sideways G's was very helpful in harmonizing my current line of thinking. On a Wing, when a cross-wind hits, the rider and the bike just lean into it together. On a Spyder, the corrections are only in the horizontal plane. Seems to me that if the correction is made by a push or pull on the bars, if the body position shifts, those corrections will be chaotic. I went out last night and tested the "clench the tank" idea again and it really does improve things. There are still some "quick breath intake" moments" but I am able to stay between the lines.
The ryde to the shop was not too bad, but still not what I would expect for a 400 miles per day freeway eater. As Lamonster said, at least I may be on the right track. Sheez. I am an instrument rated pilot and didn't have this much trouble learning to fly without being able to see out.
Tuck: thank you for the kind offer. Let's see what the shop says. Heck, Roundy's is only a little ways from Colbert anyway.
The ryde to the shop was not too bad, but still not what I would expect for a 400 miles per day freeway eater. As Lamonster said, at least I may be on the right track. Sheez. I am an instrument rated pilot and didn't have this much trouble learning to fly without being able to see out.
Tuck: thank you for the kind offer. Let's see what the shop says. Heck, Roundy's is only a little ways from Colbert anyway.
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napper39
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dont let this geting use to the spyder get you dowen ive had 52 motorcycles and scooters and it took me 600 miles befor i felt safe at 70 mph and now im ok and having fun on the spyder mr blue.:thumbup:the frist time i rode one i got tom 45 mph and:yikes: it just takes time and seems like if you never rode a motorcycle you adapt much quicker.:doorag:take that guy up on the switch deal and see if his bike is better or the same as yous.most of all give it time.:ani29:
BLACK SPYDERRT
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I USE THE CRUISE CONTROL ALOT
MAYBE U SHOULD SLOW IT DOWN EVERYBODYS ALWAYS IN A HURRY. PUT THE CRUISE ON GREAT BETWEEN 50-65 I JUST KEEP MY HANDS ON THE END CAPS TO GENTLY GUIDE AND MAKE MINOR PUSH PULL CORRECTIONS. U GET MUCH BETTER GAS MI WITH THE CRUISE ON..
LESS STEERING EQUALS BETTER CONTROL..
ENJOY THE SCENERY!!:lecturef_smilie:
MAYBE U SHOULD SLOW IT DOWN EVERYBODYS ALWAYS IN A HURRY. PUT THE CRUISE ON GREAT BETWEEN 50-65 I JUST KEEP MY HANDS ON THE END CAPS TO GENTLY GUIDE AND MAKE MINOR PUSH PULL CORRECTIONS. U GET MUCH BETTER GAS MI WITH THE CRUISE ON..
LESS STEERING EQUALS BETTER CONTROL..
ENJOY THE SCENERY!!:lecturef_smilie:
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