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GIVI Topcase installed

So when are either of you Mikes up for a ryde? Weekends are always best for me ----- I'm usually just out riding or doing lawn work--- so let me know!

Grandson #1 3rd birthday party today and Father's Day plans tomorrow so this weekend is booked.
 
You did a fine job, neater than another install I saw which had cut the plastic GIVI base. I opted for the much cheaper GIVI rack, $126 from Twisted Throttle, very sturdy but had to be ground and filed before tail cone would fit, Also, GIVI rack included template for drilling and Dremeling holes which had to be enlarged further. Rack struts which should have fit snug against tail section plastic sat up about 3/8", exposing holes and wiring beneath to rain and wash water. Nothing that a piece of weatherstripping foam couldn't fill ...
 
The Givi setup with the backrest pad is nowhere near as stable as the BRP backrest. If I was going to have a passenger on the back often - I would want the BRP backrest.

There is a bit of flex to the entire setup that makes it not as stable as I would really prefer for extended passenger use.
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Nice job . Seems like forever ago but I did this mod in May of 2008 and also ran into similar issues with the givi plate being a little unstable mostly because it gets mounted a little bit at an angle and also when its at a slight angle I think it looks a little weird that way too. Since the Givi Base plates are relatively inexpensive I Bought a couple off ebay prior to my install , one to modify and one to test its strength after modification. ( I put it in a bend press at work and it took 800 pounds of force to crack the bracket even efter I removed a bit of material from it) As you will see in this post with pics from another forum from last year , my install worked quite well also and as a benefit got rid of the unstableness. The bracket has been on for several thousand miles and is rock solid and you can lift the rear of the spyder up by grabbing underneath it , so its very strong. I love the way it sits flush and looks. The pics in the post will show how I did it. :D
May just give someone doing this a couple options.

http://www.spydertalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5649&hl=givi+backrest
 
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Industries7 setup

My bigger concern would be the structural integrity of the topcase and plate. The BRP backrest is a substantial piece of metal that provides solid support. The Givi case is mounted to the sport rack plate with four short screws that will clearly hold the case securely, but until I see Firefly's setup, it's hard to tell how much abuse it could take from bouncing and pressure by a passenger leaning on it. No worries about any stress on the BRP design, that baby is a rock. I know that several owners have Givi top cases, so I hope they weigh in on how solid the case/pad setup is for passengers compared to the BRP unit.

I have the Industries7 setup with my V46 top box and V35 side cases. It is actually from Thibault Importations in Quebec, but for the information of y'all on the U.S. side of the border, it is the same as the Industries7 rack. I can tell you that this is a very solid piece of kit. My wife feels quite secure leaning against the pad on the top box. There is very little flex. Although I assume it is not as sturdy as the BRP backrest, it certainly does the job. :2thumbs:

Bruce
 
I don't have the sport rack and backrest, so I can't speak from experience, but looking at Firefly's excellent detail photos, it appears the front hooks and the latch on the sport rack plate are strong enough to handle an angular load. The added GIVI rack would provide additional stiffness and strength. The weak spot appears to be the mounting points. They would be strengthened substantially by the use of fender washers beneath the nuts, or better yet, fabricate a full metal support plate for underneath, and use longer screws.
-Scotty
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also not to pee in your cornflakes but there was a post i cant find right now about the plate that you have bag screwed to broke at the locking clip ...could have been a blem but maybe bolting that down wouldnt be a bad idea
 
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