Bob Denman
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In his defense; he DID apologize for missing the fact that it was an "ESSEM" bike... 
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Not singling anyone specific out. If it came across that way I apologize. Just seems to be the first blurb out of everyone's mouth in relation to rpms. Even though the sm bikes don't have the same issue.In his defense; he DID apologize for missing the fact that it was an "ESSEM" bike...
I have no issues shifting up to cruise through a neighborhood or on a flat road. 3k rpms is non issue on an sm for light throttle conditions
Bob Denman
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:agree: I ran my 2010 the same way; UNTIL I got the word! :shocked:
Now that it's a better-known fact; hopefully, we're saving some owners a lot of grief! :thumbup:
I wonder what the percentage of sales is; SM, versus SE? :dontknow:
Now that it's a better-known fact; hopefully, we're saving some owners a lot of grief! :thumbup:
I wonder what the percentage of sales is; SM, versus SE? :dontknow:
quadfather
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it's 2013 sts-sm5 totally stock only 1500 miles on it. just the recommended tires pressures in the manual. oil is whatever the dealer used at the first service. windshield is usually in the middle or down all the way. very little freeway time mostly country roads at 45 to 50 mph so not too much stop, and go so that helps. I am in ct. so there is some ethanol in the fuel but not as much as some states. I always run premium grade fuel. I don't ride it like it's a sport bike. I came off a Harley. so yes I tend to keep the rpm. low. I see no reason to rev a manual trans spyder unless you are trying to ride aggressively. if your just cruising why rev it? people say it will damage the engine by not keeping it in the 4k range? that makes no sense to me. if you are not lugging it or bogging it down on hills how could you hurt it. that's nonsense. I see it being an issue with the auto trans models because the clutch will slip. but other than that what could it hurt? the whole reason most new cars come overdrive tranny;s is to get the rpm lower to increase mpg. I wasn't trying too stir up a mess with my original question but just wondering if all the manual trans models were just more efficient. or maybe it's my riding style that helps?
Bob Denman
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It's your riding style, and the riding conditions... :clap: :2thumbs: 
Folks don't seem to understand that these critters are about like a big old Barn Door; it takes LOTS of fuel to push them through the air faster... :shocked: nojoke
Folks don't seem to understand that these critters are about like a big old Barn Door; it takes LOTS of fuel to push them through the air faster... :shocked: nojoke
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
RE: transmissions. My 2008 GS was a manual tranny. I still experienced 30 - 31 mpg. My shift ranges were also in the 4500 - 5000 range.
chuck gross
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PLENTY OF TORQUE
:agree:THE 998 has plenty of torque I completely agree with what you are saying there is no reason why this motor can't be run at lower RPM's on the flat areas the 998 doesn't bog down at all :thumbup: simply shift down to climb hills and you won't hurt the engine :clap:
:agree:THE 998 has plenty of torque I completely agree with what you are saying there is no reason why this motor can't be run at lower RPM's on the flat areas the 998 doesn't bog down at all :thumbup: simply shift down to climb hills and you won't hurt the engine :clap:
Bob Denman
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As long as your bike is an "ESSEM" :thumbup:
(If that ONE person on an "ESSIE" reads your post, and decides to run his that way... :yikes
:thumbup:(If that ONE person on an "ESSIE" reads your post, and decides to run his that way... :yikes
Then that would be their own fault, wouldn't it?As long as your bike is an "ESSEM"
(If that ONE person on an "ESSIE" reads your post, and decides to run his that way... :yikes
quadfather
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As long as your bike is an "ESSEM"
(If that ONE person on an "ESSIE" reads your post, and decides to run his that way... :yikes
I agree with you on that one . hopefully I was clear enough .
Bob Denman
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I agree... but I'd still hate to know that somebody had toasted clutch for breakfast; and didn't have to! :shocked:
I've done just enough teaching over the years:
Snowmobile Safety
Sportsmans' Education
Bowhunter Safety
Safe handling of firearms
Firearms Marksmanship...
to know that you have to instruct to the lowest level in the class...
And it's NOT what you say; it's only what they Heard, that matters! :yikes: nojoke
Let me know when you step down off your soap box...[emoji1]
Bob Denman
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:shocked: Oh wait!!
I forgot to mention... :roflblack: :thumbup:
I forgot to mention... :roflblack: :thumbup:
chuck gross
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SMOKIN
I think someone is smoking more than clutch around here:roflblack: but really the ST is much lighter and can be run at a little lower RPM's if done intelligently yes you don't want to drop below 3600 in the flat's and you want to keep it around 5000 or higher going up a hill or shifting gears I have yet to check my gas mileage on my ST because that is the last thing on my mind when out for a ryde it's all about having miles and smiles
hyea
lease no smoking of clutches allowed
I think someone is smoking more than clutch around here:roflblack: but really the ST is much lighter and can be run at a little lower RPM's if done intelligently yes you don't want to drop below 3600 in the flat's and you want to keep it around 5000 or higher going up a hill or shifting gears I have yet to check my gas mileage on my ST because that is the last thing on my mind when out for a ryde it's all about having miles and smiles
hyealease no smoking of clutches allowedhave a 14rtl, went for a ride Saturday, I have 7k on the bike and have averaged around 40mpg most of time. I have a car delete, at any rate on my ride, all between 50 to 65 miles per hour, I rode 166 miles and used 3.4 gallons of phillips 91 octane. not bad. oh by the way, I run amsoil 10w30 oil.
redhorse
Just got back from a trip along the Clearwater and Louchsa River in Idaho motorcycle camping. Two up pulling a mini trailer with all our stuff and got 29 on the first 2 tanks. Opened glove box and other receipts blew out so don't know after that. I think 29 is pretty good for that kind of travel.
SpyderDon
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Showie, that's what I averaged this weekend, pulling a Mini Trailer through the mountains of WV and western VA then a hot ride home on the interstate the ride up was a little slower, back roads. I was pleasantly surprised when I did the math, 715 miles, 24.5 gal. I now know why Snowshoe is so popular, beautiful area.
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