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Bob Denman
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That's on the low side or normal... but without more information about how you ride; it's tough to help you sort this out.
Dragonrider
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I was at a similar point with my 2010, until I spend $1000 and switched to non-ETOH gas. Then it bumped up to the 2014 range.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Without a lot of information its hard to give other than ballpark answer.
The 998 Rotax gets an average of 30 mpg. My current 2011 does 31-32. We keep the revs in the 5000 "happy" range.
The 998 Rotax gets an average of 30 mpg. My current 2011 does 31-32. We keep the revs in the 5000 "happy" range.
robmorg
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That's what I get on my 2013 RT, but I'm a big guy and I ride rather aggressively, so I it's probably a tad on the low side of "normal", as Bob said. See the other thread in this section on the same subject, that was started just a couple hours before your's was.
quadfather
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I am assume that these are all se5 models? my sm5 gets between 40 and 42 mpg and I don't rev it much. without having to worry about clutch slippage you can cruise at a much lower rpm. 3000 t0 3500 works for me , except on the freeway where I wish I had a 6th gear.
robmorg
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That is exceptionally good for a 2013 RTL, if indeed that represents an average on several tanks of fuel.
robmorg
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Quadfather,
That's a bit low for a cruising rpm, even for the most conservative rider. It is generally accepted that the clutch on a SE5 is not fully engaged until 3200 rpm (+ or - 200). Just because the clutch is not "slipping" does not mean that it is fully engaged. As you know, on the SE it engages gradually, and you cannot really feel when it's fully engaged. Furthermore, the optimum power efficiency range is up around 5000-5500 rpm for the 900 series engine. These engines are very different than those found on most motorcycles. Having ridden motorcycles for years, it took me a while to get used to the high rpm requirements of the Rotax 900 series engine.
I'm not trying to tell you what you should do. I simply post this so as to not mislead new riders who may be reading this thread. For more information see this sticky thread that is posted in the "General Discussion" section for all new riders.
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quadfather
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understood. I guess I wasn't clear enough, but like I said in my post, mine has a manual trans not an automatic. and I hear everyone saying how bad there fuel mpg is, and I was just wondered if the auto trans was just less fuel efficient than the manual trans. because you have to rev it more to keep the auto clutch from slipping? with the manual as long as your not lugging it I see no harm in running at a lower rpm range.
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robmorg
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Yep, you did. Sorry I missed that. Still, if you look at a power graph for the 998 engine, you will see that torque peaks about 5000 RPMs and then basically levels out through 5500. At 3000-3500 rpm's, you are a long way from peak torque. To me, the engine seems awfully mushy and unresponsive down there.
Chupaca
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Gotta say..!!
it still amazes me that this is such a hot topic. I cannot believe that anyone bought one of these machines for fuel economy. There are thousands of threads/posts on the subject with litterally hundreds of possible ways to gain a mile or two. With the number of variables it only works for some.. Just kidding you all have fun with it I am very happy with a 33 mpg average..my wife call this the GTO of the cycling world. Those that remember those car will know...:roflblack::roflblack:and remember.....
it still amazes me that this is such a hot topic. I cannot believe that anyone bought one of these machines for fuel economy. There are thousands of threads/posts on the subject with litterally hundreds of possible ways to gain a mile or two. With the number of variables it only works for some.. Just kidding you all have fun with it I am very happy with a 33 mpg average..my wife call this the GTO of the cycling world. Those that remember those car will know...:roflblack::roflblack:and remember.....
BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAT
.....40 TO 42 mpg.....I realize you have an ST which is a couple 100 lbs. lighter than an RT.......But with that MPG average ....you should consider getting in touch with BRP and selling them the information you have on what they are doing wrong with the 998 engine....................Because 40 - 42 mpg from that engine is very hard to believe ................IMHO....Mikeguyver :thumbup:
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::firstplace::yes::yes:....
.....40 TO 42 mpg.....I realize you have an ST which is a couple 100 lbs. lighter than an RT.......But with that MPG average ....you should consider getting in touch with BRP and selling them the information you have on what they are doing wrong with the 998 engine....................Because 40 - 42 mpg from that engine is very hard to believe ................IMHO....Mikeguyver :thumbup:
quadfather
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:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::firstplace::yes::yes:....
there must be a way to put you on my ignore list.
Bob Denman
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There is... :shocked:
Click on his Screen Name, go to his profile...
On the left side; there's something you can clitck on to add him to your ignore list
Mike,
What do you mean by, "doing wrong "? The 998s run great; they like to rev, and do what they are asked to do... :dontknow:
Click on his Screen Name, go to his profile...
On the left side; there's something you can clitck on to add him to your ignore list
Mike,
What do you mean by, "doing wrong "? The 998s run great; they like to rev, and do what they are asked to do... :dontknow:
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BLUEKNIGHT911
Sadly Passed Oct 2024 - RIP
WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!
:hun:.......I follow Spyderlovers almost everyday and to the best of my recollection NORMALLY the " 998 " does not get anywhere near a 41 MPG of gas on average.............So if " Quadfather " is achieving this .....WHY can't BRP......that's all I'm saying.......Pretty simple and totally non-aggressive :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:..........Mikeguyver :thumbup:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
The best I ever got on my 998's was 34 mpg. Best on my 1330 was 42 mpg.
Bob Denman
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We don't know what he's done to his bike...
We don't know if he's forced to use ethanol-laced fuel or not...
We don't know how fast he rides...
We don't know the traffic patterns in which he rides...
We don't know his tire pressures...
We on't know what oils or lubricants he's using...
And how high is he keeping his windshield?
All of these things; and a WHOLE bunch more, can affect the pain at the pumps. The fact that his Stars have aligned perfectly, doesn't mean that BRP is doing anything wrong...
He's just doing a couple of things REALLY right! :clap: :2thumbs:
And what gets me is that even when you tell people you DON'T have an SE machine, they still want to convince you that you should be running the engine at higher rpms all the time...haha
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