Black Pig
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Yeah, but I think the UK gallon is slightly bigger than the US one for some reason.
UK Gallon is 4.46 litres.
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Gas Milage with the RS
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Yeah, but I think the UK gallon is slightly bigger than the US one for some reason.
UK Gallon is 4.46 litres.
pathfinderjoe
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MPG - it's all relative
With my 08 GS I get 28 to 32 depending on lots of factors, With my 08 Dodge 1 ton dually I get 17 empty 11 hauling camper and pully the spyder transport. I'm happy with the 28 - 32 - it's all relative.
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With my 08 GS I get 28 to 32 depending on lots of factors, With my 08 Dodge 1 ton dually I get 17 empty 11 hauling camper and pully the spyder transport. I'm happy with the 28 - 32 - it's all relative.
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Yep,
So' that would lower your MPG figures compared to someone checking their mileage using US gallons.
Bob Denman
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So you knock about sixth-off when going from metric to U.S... :thumbup:
And and back about a fifth when doing the Math in the other direction... :thumbup::thumbup:
Laila's Dad
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I will probably never get real deep into how the engine and filters help gas milage(I put that in my mechanics hands) but if I average driving around 60 to 60 mph is it safe to assume that I should get around 30 mpg? I know that wind and other things are factors, but in general...
Bob Denman
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I would assume that 30 mpg is a safe estimate...
But your mileage may vary! :shocked: :roflblack:
But your mileage may vary! :shocked: :roflblack:
I ran out of gas on purpose once, I had two 1 gal tanks in the trunk, Put the one tank in and ran it dry,
Went 49 miles, Then when i was putting in the second tank i realized the two tanks had 1-1/2 gal in each each.
So being that i thought the tank was 1 gal does that 49 mpg still count.
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Went 49 miles, Then when i was putting in the second tank i realized the two tanks had 1-1/2 gal in each each.
So being that i thought the tank was 1 gal does that 49 mpg still count.
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bone crusher
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If you get 30, you're doing fine. My sentiment is that anyone getting 35ish is driving it like a granny. If you have a manual and punch it on twisties and like some speed here and there, you're not going to get 35.
When I 'cruise' with my harley buddies, I get around 33...when I ride in a more spirited fashion, I sit around 29-30.
Juice box, Green filter, and hindle...
When I 'cruise' with my harley buddies, I get around 33...when I ride in a more spirited fashion, I sit around 29-30.
Juice box, Green filter, and hindle...
MLavore
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uhh yep.
Sounds right. I just calculated mine at 27.956 mpg average over the last 2200 miles and I don't drive like a psycho but I have a little fun on straight-away's every now and again.
I am on a 2011 RSS with a Hindle, hard bags and passenger backrest if that counts for anything.
Sounds right. I just calculated mine at 27.956 mpg average over the last 2200 miles and I don't drive like a psycho but I have a little fun on straight-away's every now and again.
I am on a 2011 RSS with a Hindle, hard bags and passenger backrest if that counts for anything.
The Only Economy With A Spyder Was BRP's Compromise of Using The Wrong Gearbox Ratios
That actually is the reverse of what really happens.
The higher the revs, the more fuel you use.
The faster you travel, the more fuel you use.
Even if you use a lower gear with seemingly less throttle rolled on, you will still be using more fuel at the same speed than if you were in a higher gear.
That's one of the reasons we have gears, so that at cruising speeds we can be using fewer revs and less fuel.
The main reason Spyders are so thirsty is because BRP made a very bad compromise when they chose the engine and gearbox for the Spyder. They used a semi-racing engine with a close ratio, 6 speed gearbox.
They dropped 1st gear so that we could get reverse, then lowered the overall gearing so that first would not be too high. It is still too high, and 5th is too low for economical touring/round towning.
The engine is revving around 4,500 at 65mph, way too high for economy. Even 3800rpm would be probably higher than need be, especially with the torquier RT engine.
You really only need to be able to maintain cruising speed on the flat into a headwind to have the best overall gearing and economy. Meet a hill? Drop it down, afterall, that is what gearboxes are meant for, either to accelerate to pass or to keep momentum up a big hill with a big load.
For economy and best overall performance we need a wide ratio gearbox, with bigger jumps between gears, a lower 1st and a higher 5th. Better still would be the appropriate wide ratio 6 speed gearbox, but that isn't likely to happen now.
Unfortunately BRP cheapskated on the gearbox - and surprisingly they got away with it.
That actually is the reverse of what really happens.
The higher the revs, the more fuel you use.
The faster you travel, the more fuel you use.
Even if you use a lower gear with seemingly less throttle rolled on, you will still be using more fuel at the same speed than if you were in a higher gear.
That's one of the reasons we have gears, so that at cruising speeds we can be using fewer revs and less fuel.
The main reason Spyders are so thirsty is because BRP made a very bad compromise when they chose the engine and gearbox for the Spyder. They used a semi-racing engine with a close ratio, 6 speed gearbox.
They dropped 1st gear so that we could get reverse, then lowered the overall gearing so that first would not be too high. It is still too high, and 5th is too low for economical touring/round towning.
The engine is revving around 4,500 at 65mph, way too high for economy. Even 3800rpm would be probably higher than need be, especially with the torquier RT engine.
You really only need to be able to maintain cruising speed on the flat into a headwind to have the best overall gearing and economy. Meet a hill? Drop it down, afterall, that is what gearboxes are meant for, either to accelerate to pass or to keep momentum up a big hill with a big load.
For economy and best overall performance we need a wide ratio gearbox, with bigger jumps between gears, a lower 1st and a higher 5th. Better still would be the appropriate wide ratio 6 speed gearbox, but that isn't likely to happen now.
Unfortunately BRP cheapskated on the gearbox - and surprisingly they got away with it.
retread
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Comparing the Spyder powertrain to the Aprilia Tuono, the Spyder has less hp, more torque, and the gear that's missing is 6th, which was replaced with reverse, the ratios 1 thru 5 are identical. Even by playing with gear and final drive ratios we won't gain much, we need an engine with a low to mid range torque peak for that.
By the way, the best mileage I've gotten was on a twisty turny ryde where I rarely got above 3rd gear, and never above 45 mph..38.7 mpg.
john
Recluze
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The gas mileage on the RS/GS sucks. I get 30 mpg riding one up for my driving style. It does not ever seem to vary very much.
You are getting MPG reports from out of the state of California. Some of these people have access to gas without ethanol in it. We don't here in Kalifornia. Everytime I go out of state my fuel mileage jumps at least 10%. It does so with my suv also. I have never quite understood why the difference is so radical. I understand that ethanol has only 70% of the energy of gasoline but it is only 10% of the mix. I would expect a 3% decrease in mileage but not 10%. I once put E85 in my Spyder and the mileage dropped even further.
Fuel costs are the cheapest part of owning a Spyder. I once had a boat that got 1/2 mile to the gallon. Anything better than that I don't complain too much about.
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