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FYI- New filters and Maintenance Schedule for ALL Spyders

The old spec was first at 6K miles and then every 12k thereafter (or 10,000km and 20,000km respectively). Not sure where you're coming from on the 10K and 14k mile numbers. Can you clarify? Thanks.

You are correct, got my miles and K's mixed up. :opps:
Adjustment intervals can be increased to 22,500  km (14,000 mi) and eliminate the inspection at 10,000  km (6,000 mi).
 
No one has asked the obvious question here...

How does this effect Bajaron!!!

I didnt even know dealers sold filters ;)

There are 3 possibilities...

1- It doesn't make that much difference (not likely)
2- It makes a big difference but I am able to sell my current stock (maybe)
3- I have a lifetime supply of filters I can use (engine) and many that I can't (trans)

I wonder if the Aprilia motorcycles that have been using the same engine filters since before the Spyder was built (Same engine - Same filter - SM5) is also changing to these new filters, or is it just our Spyder.

The Aprilia ran several years with an even smaller engine filter than what our Spyders use (the older ones still do) and they develop about 50 more HP than our Spyder with the same motor.

I think the larger transmission filter is a good move, but my feeling is the engine filter is not going to be a real world improvement. I will continue to run them in my Spyder.
 
Just put my last oil filter on..... Will continue using Ron's filters for the foreseeable future. I run my engine pretty hard...so I'm sticking by the 3,000 mile rule.....about every 3 weeks for the next few months.


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Sure Glad I have a lever instead of a paddle

So now you'll need to add a thimblefull more oil to compensate for the 13mm more capacity. Amazing how the engineer developed this calculation from less than a 1/2 cup more oil to over 1600 miles. Guess they got bored trying to figure out an easier way to put air in the rear tire..
 
So now you'll need to add a thimblefull more oil to compensate for the 13mm more capacity. Amazing how the engineer developed this calculation from less than a 1/2 cup more oil to over 1600 miles. Guess they got bored trying to figure out an easier way to put air in the rear tire..

13mm is a length and not the surface area that has been increased. Larger surface area = larger filtration surface = longer lifespan.
 
BRP needs to put "spin on" oil filters on Spyder motors

Why doesn't BRP put "spin on" oil filters on engines in Spyder's? Every modern motorcycle engine has "spin on" oil filters that are very easy to change!!! BRP could offer a kit to convert to spin on oil filters. Jim :dontknow:
 
13mm is a length and not the surface area that has been increased. Larger surface area = larger filtration surface = longer lifespan.

1"x3"=1/2 cup more oil...someone asked about additional capacity. I have the SM5, so not really sure how much fluid to fill the SE5 Tranny.
 
planned obsolesence

so is this new schedule really just to sell more bikes? don't know if I'd feel comfortable running blend, in Texas heat, after break in full synthetic would offer adequate protection. :read:
 
I just bought 4 sets of the old filters and seals from Ron last month! :gaah:

As far as I know, no one has had any issues with these HiFlo filters. The HiFlo transmission filter flows more oil than the OEM filter (though it won't flow as much as the new larger filter).

If BRP had not come out with new filters everyone would still be fat and happy with the current products.

It will be interesting to see if anyone sees an improvement with the larger transmission filter.
 
Just put my last oil filter on..... Will continue using Ron's filters for the foreseeable future. I run my engine pretty hard...so I'm sticking by the 3,000 mile rule.....about every 3 weeks for the next few months.


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You better buy at least one filter from your dealer before may of 2013 to get that free cover, because after May 2013 I guessing it will be a $150.00 part.
 
You better buy at least one filter from your dealer before may of 2013 to get that free cover, because after May 2013 I guessing it will be a $150.00 part.

The oil filter cap is $17.00 now so I don't think that will be an issue.
 
Why doesn't BRP put "spin on" oil filters on engines in Spyder's? Every modern motorcycle engine has "spin on" oil filters that are very easy to change!!! BRP could offer a kit to convert to spin on oil filters. Jim :dontknow:

I agree. I could change my Gold Wing's oil in a half hour. I have not attempted to change the Spyder's because it seems more complicated than it could be. The older I get the less complicated I want stuff and would rather be riding than tinkering with my vehicles. I have my dealer put in my Amsoil and use BRP filters. That being said I love my SE5 trans and don't think I will ever go back to a manual shift. Now if I could just sell my Softail.....


Spyder Phyl

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SM5 here bro---don't need no stinking tranny filter.


BUT, I think the old one is just large enough to hold a double shot of liquor... I am going to start collecting them and boil them out and put a coating over them to make Spyder Oil shot glasses...

Wonder if I will need to be a site sponsor to sell them here...
 
I just don't get the complaints about the Spyder oil filter setup. The system they have works just fine. I can change my oil in 30 minutes - easy. It's just not that big of a deal.... isn't gonna change.... so why bother complaining about it?
 
I just don't get the complaints about the Spyder oil filter setup. The system they have works just fine. I can change my oil in 30 minutes - easy. It's just not that big of a deal.... isn't gonna change.... so why bother complaining about it?

I got you beat. It takes me 0 minutes and no complaints.
 
Let's see...
The old 3000 mile interval: 3,000, 6,000, 9,000 etc...
But 4,600 miles?
4,600, 9,200, 13,800, ?? :shocked: My head is hurting from the New Math! :roflblack:
 
Let's see...
The old 3000 mile interval: 3,000, 6,000, 9,000 etc...
But 4,600 miles?
4,600, 9,200, 13,800, ?? :shocked: My head is hurting from the New Math! :roflblack:

I agree, and is that just for the oil change now with the oil filter set up? So you will still have the other 3K mile inspection requirements or did all of the 3K requirements move to 4600 miles. I hope BRP comes out with an updated print out so everyone knows for sure when everything is due. I wish BRP would just push the whole inspection to a 5K interval and subsequent inspections to 15K & 25K. But thats just me, i like round easy numbers to remember.

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Let's see...
The old 3000 mile interval: 3,000, 6,000, 9,000 etc...
But 4,600 miles?
4,600, 9,200, 13,800, ?? :shocked: My head is hurting from the New Math! :roflblack:

I'm sure rounding up to 5000 miles isn't going to hurt anything. Most people end up a bit over the mark anyways by the time they get things in.
 
Let's see...
The old 3000 mile interval: 3,000, 6,000, 9,000 etc...
But 4,600 miles?
4,600, 9,200, 13,800, ?? :shocked: My head is hurting from the New Math! :roflblack:


Bob it is simple move to Canada.................7,500, 15,000, 22,500. Gosh the whole world moves on the metric system, get with it!
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