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FYI: CA Motorcycle Law & Insurance Requirements

Wow! guess I am one of the few that actually likes State Farm. Been a customer since 1965. Never been hassled and they have always paid promptly on the few claims I have had.
 
I have Three A of California and have had them for 45 yrs and they do not require a training class but I do have M1 since I did ride HD's for a number of years. Any training class if worth the money if it is close to your residence but I do agree the difference between 2 wheels and 3 wheels is big and I do not know anyone who is teaching a 3 wheel course yet.
 
I'm also with State Farm for 40 some odd years. Have all my insurance through the same agent. I've had Michigan cycle endorsement for 30 years. Never had State Farm tell me I needed a safety course. Maybe it's time to look for a new agent. Just sayin'.......
 
Illinois requires a motorcycle license to ride a Spyder, but the State-funded Universities have outreach programs that teach free motorcycle safety classes. We have to pay $20 to register (just in case you no-show), but if you complete the course, you can get your $20 back. You should check out your local community college to see if they have a similar outreach program in California.
 
Recently got quotes from Progessive,Gieco,Allstate and State Farm.State Farm was the lowest priced and did not require an M1 license.
 
Motorcycle Riders Lic. in California

I have had a Motorcycle Lic. since I was 14 years old I am now 71
so I am not worried at all about insurance end of this issue.
But I did show the posters note here on the forum to my Allstate Ins. agent,
after he got done laughing he said... That will be very interesting if they push it
because the Spyder does not require an M1 on your drivers lic. and California does not
consider it a motorcycle... it is to them a 3 wheel car? If the insurance company tries to push
it all the meter maids in the state will have to take a motorcycle drivers test I would love to
see that.
I want to know how they get by with out having to use a helmet...
Double standard !!! dirty pool.... :yikes:
 
California Casualty Inc. wanted my business from Nationwide. Come to find out Cal. Casualty doesn't insure Spyders. Told them to try again when they do.... Their loss.
 
Travelling out of state question

I live in KY and have had a M license for over 10 years now however this subject caught my eye and I was wondering for those in CA without a 2 wheel motorcycle license is it legal to drive in the other states that do require a license for Can-Am or 3 wheel motorcycles? Here in KY, a 3 wheel is treated the same as a 2 wheel and you have to have the same license to drive either. I have driven both, and strongly believe someone who has driven only a 3 wheel should not be legally allowed to drive a 2 wheel without some training however here in KY they feel you are.

Does anyone know?
 
I live in KY and have had a M license for over 10 years now however this subject caught my eye and I was wondering for those in CA without a 2 wheel motorcycle license is it legal to drive in the other states that do require a license for Can-Am or 3 wheel motorcycles? Here in KY, a 3 wheel is treated the same as a 2 wheel and you have to have the same license to drive either. I have driven both, and strongly believe someone who has driven only a 3 wheel should not be legally allowed to drive a 2 wheel without some training however here in KY they feel you are.

Does anyone know?

I asked that same basic question here a year ago, and my CA license means I can ride my Spyder where I like. I did, however, opt to get an M1, and to get it I had to learn and test on two wheels.

I agree that knowing how to ride a Spyder does almost nothing to really help with a motorcycle, which I believe is why they don't bother to require a two wheel license for one any more than I would need an M1 or M2 for a bicycle.
 
VA

I live in KY and have had a M license for over 10 years now however this subject caught my eye and I was wondering for those in CA without a 2 wheel motorcycle license is it legal to drive in the other states that do require a license for Can-Am or 3 wheel motorcycles? Here in KY, a 3 wheel is treated the same as a 2 wheel and you have to have the same license to drive either. I have driven both, and strongly believe someone who has driven only a 3 wheel should not be legally allowed to drive a 2 wheel without some training however here in KY they feel you are.

Does anyone know?

I've had my motorcycle license for a while, however before I bought my spyder I was able to take a 3 wheel safety class where they provided spiders for the class.


effective July 1 in Virginia
M: both 2 wheel and 3 wheel
M2: 2 wheel only
M3: 3 wheel only
 
It was mentioned about 6mo ago. The license holder is bound by the laws of the issuing state as it applies to certification. So a California Spyder rider could ride to NY and back irregardless of occupied states license process. He or she is liable to familiarize themselves with the particular traffic laws of the guest state.

A good example would be headlights on during rain. In California you must turn your headlights on if its raining. Most LE will cut guests a break on such an issue after qualifying your license and reg... (Commonly called a "29", or rolling 29).

A helmet law would be enforceable/citation irregardless of home state. A minimum of 35k insurance and proof of such is also required.

Luckily our spyders already have the lights on and the majority wear helmets :)
 
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