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FWIW; Low Fuel Light

spyderider1

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I apologize if the subject has been covered here (it probably has) I was curious just how much gasoline was left in the tank when the low level light came on. I have a 2016 RTS and typically get somewhere in the mid 30's for mileage. So on my last fill-up I zeroed out the trip meter with a full tank. 185 miles later the low level light came on. I filled the tank and found that there was just under 2 gallons of gasoline in the tank at the time of the light. That would give me some 61 miles to find the next gas station. As to the load on the engine, the miles were primarily around town and back-country roads and most miles were solo and I weigh in around 245. Of course your mileage may vary and I thought the subject was worth sharing.:riding:
 
I apologize if the subject has been covered here (it probably has) I was curious just how much gasoline was left in the tank when the low level light came on. I have a 2016 RTS and typically get somewhere in the mid 30's for mileage. So on my last fill-up I zeroed out the trip meter with a full tank. 185 miles later the low level light came on. I filled the tank and found that there was just under 2 gallons of gasoline in the tank at the time of the light. That would give me some 61 miles to find the next gas station. As to the load on the engine, the miles were primarily around town and back-country roads and most miles were solo and I weigh in around 245. Of course your mileage may vary and I thought the subject was worth sharing.:riding:

On my 14 RT it's a bit more than One gal.... after light comes on I can safely go 50 more miles .... Mike :thumbup:
 
I apologize if the subject has been covered here (it probably has) I was curious just how much gasoline was left in the tank when the low level light came on. I have a 2016 RTS and typically get somewhere in the mid 30's for mileage. So on my last fill-up I zeroed out the trip meter with a full tank. 185 miles later the low level light came on. I filled the tank and found that there was just under 2 gallons of gasoline in the tank at the time of the light. That would give me some 61 miles to find the next gas station. As to the load on the engine, the miles were primarily around town and back-country roads and most miles were solo and I weigh in around 245. Of course your mileage may vary and I thought the subject was worth sharing.:riding:

Thank you for the share. I did that one time. My 2010 RTS (998 and a little over a 6 gallon tank.) The fuel light would come on between 135 and 150 depending on the driver. I ran it to 185 miles. The gas gauge was below the empty mark. I took 5.8 gallons to fill the current tank. After that it was fill at 150 or less.

On my 1330/F3, I can go 200 miles without the light coming on. Many are saying 250 is doable. After 150, I am ready to fill up anyway. I usually fill between half and one quarter of what the tank shows.

My thoughts: Better fuller than emptier. :bowdown:
 
There are a number of variables beyond one's control that govern when the low fuel light comes on. For example, we both have 6.9 gal. fuel tanks. You said at your last fill up you zeroed the trip meter with a full tank. Exactly how much fuel was in the tank? Do you know precisely? After the low fuel light came on you you filled the tank and determined there was just under two gallons in the tank. How do you know the tank was filled to exactly the same level it was after the fil up where you zeroed the trip meter? It's impossible to tell with the design of the tank. when you add to that other variables such as wind and atmospheric conditions that can affect mpg and the appearance of the low fuel light. In 72.9K miles I have never put more than 6.38 gal in the tank according to the meter on the pump but I have no idea on that particular tank just how full to capacity it was. I have also had the low fuel light come on at 200 mi and have gone another 42.3 mi and, again, don't know exactly how close to maximum tank capacity I actually filled the tank. One of the biggest governors on how much fuel you can put into the tank is the velocity of the fuel coming out of the pump nozzle. Too much velocity and you get too much splash back before you can reach a really good "fill."
 
I apologize if the subject has been covered here (it probably has) I was curious just how much gasoline was left in the tank when the low level light came on. I have a 2016 RTS and typically get somewhere in the mid 30's for mileage. So on my last fill-up I zeroed out the trip meter with a full tank. 185 miles later the low level light came on. I filled the tank and found that there was just under 2 gallons of gasoline in the tank at the time of the light. That would give me some 61 miles to find the next gas station. As to the load on the engine, the miles were primarily around town and back-country roads and most miles were solo and I weigh in around 245. Of course your mileage may vary and I thought the subject was worth sharing.:riding:

It's a good idea to do this & work out roughly how much gas you think you've got left, but please remember that you REALLY SHOULDN'T EVER RUN YOUR SPYDER/RYKER GAS TANK DRY!! :yikes: Nor for that matter, should you do it on ANY fuel injected vehicle that has the fuel pump immersed in the gas remaining in the tank!! :lecturef_smilie:

You should always try to fill up again either before or as soon as you can after a reliably accurate gas gauge hits 1/4 of a tank, only the Spyder/Ryker gas gauges AND their low fuel warning lights really aren't all that consistent, accurate, &/or reliable! :rolleyes:

Refilling while there's still a 'technically usable' amount of gas left in the tank is necessary because the fuel pump relies on the gas remaining to work as both coolant and lubricant.... so if you start getting below the necessary minimum quantity of gas to carry away & disperse the heat adequately, then you are most likely starting to damage the pump; and if you ever get to the stage that the pump sucks air, then you HAVE damaged the pump - even if you might not be able to notice it just yet!! This damage can be microscopic initially, because it generally means that once the fuel level starts getting low, it heats up more & quickly, so that as the pumping surfaces spin past each other with miniscule separation, due to the lack of adequate coolant/lubricant between them, micro-particles on each side will be momentarily 'pressure & heat welded' onto the mating surface because they are being forced so closely together with inadequate cooling or lubrication - it's that forcing closely together feature that is what makes the pump work properly! End result is a tiny raised lump on one surface & a pit on the other that are there forever, and they are very unlikely to ever match up exactly again; so as the pump continues to rotate & each individual lump &/or pit encounters a new spot on the other mating surface, even if you've now got enough gas to act as coolant/lubricant, it'll still either rip a new hole in the mating surface or it'll degrade the pump's performance.... and it'll slooowly get worse & worse! :banghead:


So really, that bit I bolded in your post as quoted above shouldn't read:

"That would give me some 61 miles to find the next gas station"

but rather it should say:

"That would give me some 61 miles to begin destroying my vehicle's fuel pump!" :yikes:

And believe me, even if you don't notice it now or even soon, if you EVER get below the critical level of gas remaining in the tank, a level that's hopefully SOMEWHERE below the 1/4 full mark on the gas gauge &/or the level the Low Fuel Warning light comes on at (only remember, because of the inconsistency & unreliable/inaccurate nature of the gauges & lights on these things, your guess as to where exactly that level might actually be is as good as mine or as that of an un-trained chimp throwing darts at a gauge on the wall! :p ) you WILL be damaging your pump & so degrading the potential life & performance of that pump! :lecturef_smilie:

And that's not even considering the further potential for damaging the rest of the injection system; ie, anything that uses the fuel remaining as it's coolant & lubricant! There are quite a few really critical & quite tiny components in the injection system that do actually that! :shocked:

So as others have also mentioned, I suggest that you play it safe & ALWAYS refill early - the gas gauge & the Low Fuel Warning light should be the LAST things you rely on - if you get that far & only then start looking for gas, you juuust may have left it too late to avoid irreversible & cumulative damage to some very important components of your vehicle's engine! :shocked:

Just Sayin' ;) And I do recognise that it is your choice, cos it's your Spyder/Ryker/any other fuel injected vehicle.... :rolleyes:
 
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Picked my new Ryker up 4 days ago...Obviously it's still in break-in mode...close to 400 miles so far...Just for shytz n grynz decided to calculate the mpg...Exactly 100 miles on the trip odo, the bike took 2.8 gallons...So roughly 35.7 mpg...I weigh in ready to ride @ 235#...All the riding was country backroads with speeds between 45-60mph...
 
I was absolutely paranoid about the risk of running out of gas when I first got my Spyder, but over the years I've gotten much better at estimating how far I can go on a tank and I still prefer to err on the side of caution.
 
I routinely would go 180-200 miles before the fuel light would come on on my 2014 RTL. I never rode much more than 200 before filling up. If anyone is inclined to experiment to see how far they can go until the tank is bone dry, please know that a replacement fuel pump will cost upwards of $1,000.00 if done at a dealership. That thought might make those 150 mile fuel stops a lot LESS inconvenient..... Jim
 
Picked my new Ryker up 4 days ago...Obviously it's still in break-in mode...close to 400 miles so far...Just for shytz n grynz decided to calculate the mpg...Exactly 100 miles on the trip odo, the bike took 2.8 gallons...So roughly 35.7 mpg...I weigh in ready to ride @ 235#...All the riding was country backroads with speeds between 45-60mph...

Gas mileage varies tank to tank like the height a kid on a trampoline jumps. Your number is an approximation at best. You will only know your true average mpg by keeping track of how many gallons of gas you burn over something like 5000 miles.
 
At 70 mph for most of the trip, my low fuel came on at 175 mile (2021 RTL one-up). Took only 5.5 gallons to top off. I had been getting about 36 mpg at >55 mph. This time it was only ~32.5 mpg. Speed kills mileage.
 
Fuel run

:agree: All good things must come to the end.
I enjoy my time and miles on my Spyder. ....:yes:

I always do my fuel stops around 110 to120 miles.

But really, Why would you want to risk damaging your Spyder's fuel pump?
Why stress out about running out of fuel?

Number 1: Is that next fuel stop going to be open? .
.....:gaah:

Have a Blessed Day. ......:thumbup:
 
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