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FUEL TANK OPENING

kep-up

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I am considering removing the nozzle restrictor plate from the filler neck. Has anyone done this? If so, were you able to do it with a heavy duty aviation snips? I am very hesitant to do it with a saw or dremel. Fumes and shavings, donchakno.......
 
HMMMMMM.....

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHERS.....
BUT I WOULD
'NEVER' BUY ANY VEHICLE THAT HAD THIS ALTERATION.....
BE CAREFUL OF WHAT YOU DO, YOU MAY REDUCE THE RESALE VALUE TO
'ZERO'....
Dan P
SPYD3R F3-S
 
I am considering removing the nozzle restrictor plate from the filler neck. Has anyone done this? If so, were you able to do it with a heavy duty aviation snips? I am very hesitant to do it with a saw or dremel. Fumes and shavings, donchakno.......


Okay... I'll be the first to ask.... WHY?

... So you can put 5 gallons in your Spyder three minutes faster?
... So you can siphon fuel from other places with larger nozzles?
... To increase capacity by .0003 gallons?
... Just because?
 
I wonder why you would which is none of my business. However I think you might run into serious problems with unfriendly EPA/feds if you should ever get caught. Just my thoughts
Oldmanzues
 
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I am considering removing the nozzle restrictor plate from the filler neck. Has anyone done this? If so, were you able to do it with a heavy duty aviation snips? I am very hesitant to do it with a saw or dremel. Fumes and shavings, donchakno.......

Could you post a PIC of what you want to remove ......just to clarify......Mike :thumbup:
 
Interesting..!!

first I have seen wanting to do this. Can't be that many pump nozzels that would not fit today. As mentioned above not much gain. You can get or make a holder if your nozzels have the vapor caps. :dontknow:
 
This is copied from the owners manual..... there is a tube below the filler neck ... so I don't think that you would achieve what you are aiming for.......


 
Okay... I'll be the first to ask.... WHY?

... So you can put 5 gallons in your Spyder three minutes faster?
... So you can siphon fuel from other places with larger nozzles?
... To increase capacity by .0003 gallons?
... Just because?

Because the fuel spits up through the two vent holes and the droplets splatter onto the paint. Then I need to grab a towel, which may or may not be available, to quickly wipe those spots off. Thought is, make the two small vents into one large vent and eliminate the spitting fuel.
 
This is copied from the owners manual..... there is a tube below the filler neck ... so I don't think that you would achieve what you are aiming for.......



This pic is not in my operators manual. It simply states: 5. Fill the tank until the fuel nozzle automatically clicks and shuts off.
NOTE: Do not try to top off the fuel tank. Leave some room for the fuel to expand ........ .

I can generall get about 1/2 gallon into the tank after the pump shuts off. That is equal to about 15 additional miles before a fuel stop. And since all fuel stations have been removed from the Blue RidGE Parkway, that 15 miles could get critical. IMHO.
 
Why not just see if you can modulate the speed of the fuel transfer, by using your hand to NOT have to put the fuel in at the highest possible rate of flow? :dontknow:


This is the sort of modification that can put you in the running for a Darwin award... don't do it! nojoke
 
Although the picture in this thread is not in your manual the restrictor plate in the filler neck is to stop one from overfilling the tank and allow for expansion. I personally would not attempt to fill any tank with gasoline, particularly one I'm straddling, to the absolute brim. It just isn't safe. JMO. On the BRP I vote for revising refueling strategy.
 
With all of the talk of Spyders catching fire; if something happened to yours, and BRP found this alteration... :yikes:


...Any warranty that you might have had; went up in smoke also!
 
Because the fuel spits up through the two vent holes and the droplets splatter onto the paint. Then I need to grab a towel, which may or may not be available, to quickly wipe those spots off. Thought is, make the two small vents into one large vent and eliminate the spitting fuel.

Okay... makes sense to me now. I don't have that problem on my RT, nor have I experienced it on the other three Spyders we have owned. I never trigger the pump fully and I never use the automatic shut off so maybe that is why. I know that in some states we have traveled in the nozzles have these terrible rubber thingys on them that make it difficult to access the filler neck. Here in Georgia we have reasonably thin nozzles that allow air to escape when the fuel is going in so there is no splash back out the vent holes.
 
This pic is not in my operators manual. It simply states: 5. Fill the tank until the fuel nozzle automatically clicks and shuts off.
NOTE: Do not try to top off the fuel tank. Leave some room for the fuel to expand ........ .

I can generall get about 1/2 gallon into the tank after the pump shuts off. That is equal to about 15 additional miles before a fuel stop. And since all fuel stations have been removed from the Blue RidGE Parkway, that 15 miles could get critical. IMHO.
This is where some people got into problems on earlier spyders with getting fuel into their vapor canisters. Topping off any modern vehicle is not recommended. I carry a 1 gallon can from REDA just for these times.
 
Okay... makes sense to me now. I don't have that problem on my RT, nor have I experienced it on the other three Spyders we have owned. I never trigger the pump fully and I never use the automatic shut off so maybe that is why. I know that in some states we have traveled in the nozzles have these terrible rubber thingys on them that make it difficult to access the filler neck. Here in Georgia we have reasonably thin nozzles that allow air to escape when the fuel is going in so there is no splash back out the vent holes.

For the record: (2011 RSS SE5)

I, too, have held the nozzle back and fted the speed of the fuel flow by hand. However, being lazy, I was looking for a shortcut.

As to the feds and the EPA, don't much care about them. If I did, I'd have to reinstall my Cat converter, now wouldn't I? And I ain't doin that!
 
Ant-splash-back

Sometime ago there was a thread on here about an anti-splash-back devise that kept the gas in the devise and returned it to the tank instead of on the outside of the bike. Some posters said it worked and some said it didn't. As I remember it was a plastic item that went on the tank opening in place of the gas cap while fueling and then was removed when fueling was done. I did a search but couldn't find it. Maybe someone else can find it for you. Hope this helps, but don't start cutting up your tank, please. I think you'll be sorry.
 
hole in filler neck

Using a Dremel tool will cause sparks which ignite gasoline. I used tinsnips and an aluminum pry bar when I removed the baffle like obstructions in the filler neck when I installed the self closing/sealing gas cap and the gas door in the seat. Now I can refuel without getting off the bike
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Using a Dremel tool will cause sparks which ignite gasoline. I used tinsnips and an aluminum pry bar when I removed the baffle like obstructions in the filler neck when I installed the self closing/sealing gas cap and the gas door in the seat. Now I can refuel without getting off the bike
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Andy

WOW, Andy that's the smallest gas door I've ever seen................................No wait I've got one just like it :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:..........nice pic tho...........Mike , .......PM me as to where you are staying at Spyderfest :2excited:
 
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