• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

Fuel economy

When the gauge starts to show low on fuel I stop and fill up. Usually by this time I'm due for a bit of a stretch, a pee, and maybe a quick beverage. I have no idea what fuel mileage I'm getting. I didn't buy this thing for how well it did on gas.


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:agree: i bought it for the FUN FACTOR. :yes::yes::yes:

Cruzr Joe
 
The Germans aren't the only ones with VVT...
GM has been using it for quite a while in their trucks, Chrysler has it in their HEMIs...
(Those are the only two that I could come up with quickly... there are more!)
VVT adds another layer of complexity to an engine and Bike that are already straing resources needed to sort things out... :shocked:
But, give them some time! :thumbup:

Indeed, on the Ford side, all 3 valve V8s and V8s have VVT. The 5.0 and most of the Ecoboost engines have TiVVT (Twin variable cam timing, independently adjusting intake and exhaust cams). Ecoboost engines are all direct injection as well.

The next step in this evolution is camless engines with computer controlled valves. Prototypes already exist.
 
Remember when motorcycles came with toolkits that you actually had to use once in a while? :shocked:
Next; it'll be a USB cable hooking you up to some vendor you saw on EBAY, and he'll do a major power upgrade online from thousands of miles away! :shocked:
 
I wish my 13 got 30mpg. Mine gets 125 to 130 miles when the light comes on and takes about 5 gal to fill. 25mpg on premium gas is pretty pathetic in this day and age. My wife's Escape gets 26 on regular gas......

I still think the low mileage on my 13 is partly due to the quantity of fuel that never makes it to the engine, the large clouds of gas fumes that fill my garage and every stop light....

I'm pulling 33 to 34 out of my 13 RT/S and about 150 to 170 miles on the low fuel light. I just wish mine had better mid-range power, hate down shifting 1 or 2 gears to pull long grades.
 
Remember when motorcycles came with toolkits that you actually had to use once in a while? :shocked:
Next; it'll be a USB cable hooking you up to some vendor you saw on EBAY, and he'll do a major power upgrade online from thousands of miles away! :shocked:

Are you saying the Spyder toolkit isn't useful?....haha.
That toolkit is one of the first things I pulled out of the frunk. Really, what am I going to do with a screwdriver, spark plug socket, misc junk wrenches, and a small dry yellow cloth if broken down on the side of the road???


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I'm pulling 33 to 34 out of my 13 RT/S and about 150 to 170 miles on the low fuel light. I just wish mine had better mid-range power, hate down shifting 1 or 2 gears to pull long grades.

Downshifting due to a long grade? That doesn't sound right....


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I read on BRPs site that the 2014 Spyders could get 62 mpg, is this really true?

That is what they are claiming so obviously they have some sort of data source as they are the ones that have the ACE engine at their finger tips. I don't know of anyone on SL that has one in the garage. Do you?
 
Really Big Engine

Prior to my current bike I had a 2010 Triumph Rocket III Touring, an 865 pounds wet beast with a 2297cc inline triple engine and a 5 speed (no overdirive) transmission. It got anywhere from 30 to 40 mpg, mostly in the low 30s and could be romped on and get in the mid to upper 20s. My reason for mentioning it is that yes bigger engines consume more fuel, but gearing and having an overdrive gear can make a big difference as well. My current ride, a 2012 Victory Cross country is about 835 pounds wet with a 1734cc V-twin but has a sixth overdirive gear and gets anywhere fro 38 to 48 mpg, usually in the low to mid 40s. The weight differences aren't that much in my case, but engine size and gearing differences were huge. How that will play-out in the case of the 2014 Spyder RTs vs. the 2013 and older ones remains to be seen, but the gearing changes should make for some significant mpg improvement.
 
Bigger engine combined with the six speed overdrive transmission allows cruising at lower rpm's. That's how ithe 2014 RT gets better mpg. Around town it may not be better. Could be worse, depending upon your riding technique. Looking forward to seeing for myself! :yes:
 
City & Short Trips

I agree the 2014 RT city or short trip fuel mileage might be equal or worse than the current models. Bigger engine and more weight to get going in start & stop traffic. The bigger engine will use more fuel at idle for that matter. The advantages of the gearing will all be in highway mpg where the overdrive sixth gear is engaged.
 
den1953;719724.....The bigger engine will use more fuel at idle for that matter......[/QUOTE said:
Not necessarily, if they are able to reduce the idle rpm. The current Spyder idles like a top fuel car.
 
Actually; the extra horsepower and torque CAN get you better mileage. :shocked:
You simply don't have to grab as much throttle under normal conditions...
But 62mpg?? :roflblack:

With this logic a guy should expect to get 100+ mpg with this setup! :roflblack:

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Do you guys really think you use that much fuel idling? How much idling do you do??...


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