• There were many reasons for the change of the site software, the biggest was security. The age of the old software also meant no server updates for certain programs. There are many benefits to the new software, one of the biggest is the mobile functionality. Ill fix up some stuff in the coming days, we'll also try to get some of the old addons back or the data imported back into the site like the garage. To create a thread or to reply with a post is basically the same as it was in the prior software. The default style of the site is light colored, but i temporarily added a darker colored style, to change you can find a link at the bottom of the site.

From "Analog" to "Digital" at no cost to you.

Great................ But there is a difference between fairly accurate and accurate. Kind of like being almost pregnant??
Welllllllllll, not really! Accurate and exact are in the same league. When you are referring to variable data there is no such thing as exact. Is 100.01 pounds exactly 100 pounds? No. How about 100.0000001 pounds? Is that exactly 100 pounds? In an absolute sense, no. In a practical sense, yes. But that is only because the measurement system has been determined to provide readings within +/- 0.00000005 of the real weight, whatever that actually is. In other words, the scale is fairly accurate. But it can never be accurate unless we define accurate as giving a measurement within a + or - range of the absolute.

Exact, and also accurate, apply only to systems that count discrete items, such as how many pennies in a bank bag. If the system yields a count that matches the number of pennies to the penny (pun intended:)) every time it counts, it is accurate. If it misses the count by one or two pennies out of say, 1000, every once in awhile, it is fairly accurate if counting Girl Scout cookie sale proceeds but not if it's used in a bank!

This may seem like much ado about nothing, but it really isn't. Understanding exactness and accuracy are at the heart of controlling quality in a manufacturing process. It's an attempt to come up with a meaningful answer to the question, "How round is round?", you know, like in the case of Kenda tires, or for that matter any tire! :thumbup: Or, in the case of bores in the Rotax engine, what size is a 20 mm hole? One thing I can guarantee you, it is not 20. followed by an endless string of zeros.
 
Welllllllllll, not really! Accurate and exact are in the same league. When you are referring to variable data there is no such thing as exact. Is 100.01 pounds exactly 100 pounds? No. How about 100.0000001 pounds? Is that exactly 100 pounds? In an absolute sense, no. In a practical sense, yes. But that is only because the measurement system has been determined to provide readings within +/- 0.00000005 of the real weight, whatever that actually is. In other words, the scale is fairly accurate. But it can never be accurate unless we define accurate as giving a measurement within a + or - range of the absolute.

Exact, and also accurate, apply only to systems that count discrete items, such as how many pennies in a bank bag. If the system yields a count that matches the number of pennies to the penny (pun intended:)) every time it counts, it is accurate. If it misses the count by one or two pennies out of say, 1000, every once in awhile, it is fairly accurate if counting Girl Scout cookie sale proceeds but not if it's used in a bank!

This may seem like much ado about nothing, but it really isn't. Understanding exactness and accuracy are at the heart of controlling quality in a manufacturing process. It's an attempt to come up with a meaningful answer to the question, "How round is round?", you know, like in the case of Kenda tires, or for that matter any tire! :thumbup: Or, in the case of bores in the Rotax engine, what size is a 20 mm hole? One thing I can guarantee you, it is not 20. followed by an endless string of zeros.

Now I need some more J. D. Thank you Idaho. :bowdown:
 
Of course I wouldn't be able to do this on my 2010.

I did. After two wonky gas gauge replacements, I disconnected the gauges and they instantly went to the digital bar gauges.

Our new 2011 RT was the same. Linda had me disconnect the gauges within the first 100 miles.

My 2014 did not have those issues with the wonky gas gauge. The gas gauge is rock solid. Still using the analog gauges on that one. And now Linda is driving it. Don't know the reason...but most recommend disconnecting both gauges...not just the wonky gas gauge.
 
...... Don't know the reason...but most recommend disconnecting both gauges...not just the wonky gas gauge.


Due to that 'cluster firmware' that IMS mentions, (or maybe it was just something in the software?! :dontknow: ) it takes disconnecting BOTH the analogue gauges to allow their digital equivalent gauges to come up. :rolleyes:

However, BRP did seem to be able to source a little better quality/more reliably accurate gas gauge for the 2014 Spyders and on. Before that, if you disconnected just the wonky gas gauge, all you got was an analogue gas gauge that was at least reasonably accurate once in a while - but that once in a while was only when the Spyder coughed & spluttered to a stop as it ran outta gas!! :gaah:

So for the Spyders right from the word go up until they went full digital, albeit with 'fake analogue' displays, it's been a case of 'either/or' when it comes to analogue vs digital gas & temp gauges! Still, there was a time that we manage without entirely - just pop the cap & listen for the slosh... no slosh, better get some gas! :thumbup:
 
Due to that 'cluster firmware' that IMS mentions, (or maybe it was just something in the software?! :dontknow: )
I could be wrong, but I think why certain software is referred to as firmware is that it recorded into memory that doesn't die when power is turned off, it functions totally on its own without any need for a "mother" program to manage it, it is not changeable without going through special hoops, and it usually controls hardware directly. In other words, it is software that is stuck firmly into place! :thumbup:
 
For the reminder and I'm sure news to many who have not suffered the guage accuracy issue...:bowdown: just remember once you disconnect them they no longer work...:roflblack:

Chupaca, where you been? Glad you are back. Missed you and your sidekick at Saint George last fall.

Remember, "where ever you go, there you are" so I guess you were never away right? :joke:

Jack
 
Chupaca, where you been? Glad you are back. Missed you and your sidekick at Saint George last fall.

Remember, "where ever you go, there you are" so I guess you were never away right? :joke:

Jack

Jack

That response from Chupaca was from January 2015.

Cruzr Joe
 
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