For All You Niken Haters

[dndfindley]

Just thoughts - possibilities etc., Looks aside ( I don't like it ) .... I have some concerns about what could happen if one of the front tires hits a decent size rock ..... I know the industry have come a long way in the area of suspensions , especially the front. But I have doubts they can maintain optimum traction with that set-up....As I said when one tire hits a rock I think the other tire is going to break contact with the road surface , even if it's just for a mille-second. I don't think that's optimum. And I think with a knowledgeable expert Spyder rider ....the spyder would be faster .....jmho .... Mike :thumbup:

Sorry to burst your bubble but the best, most skilled Spyder rider in the world could not beat the Niken on any road course providing the Niken rider was of equal skill and providing both machines were stock.

 

[dndfindley]

If it doesn't lock when it is upright and coming to a stop, then what good is a 3 wheeled bike?

Did you even read the article? Your answer is there and is explained very well.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Did you even read the article? Your answer is there and is explained very well.

I trust you're referring to some other comment in the article and not this one?

Unlike the Piaggio MP3, there’s no locking device to hold you upright; you have to put a foot down at stops.

 

[Peteoz]

I trust you're referring to some other comment in the article and not this one?

I think it’s just the usual written English misinterpretations, Idaho. DND is responding in general terms to “what good is a 3 wheel bike” (i.e safer in corners if you hit a gravel patch etc), and not the specifically mentioned concern of “it doesn’t lock when it’s upright and coming to a stop, so what good is it?”

Pete

 

[PistonBlown]

Sorry to burst your bubble but the best, most skilled Spyder rider in the world could not beat the Niken on any road course providing the Niken rider was of equal skill and providing both machines were stock.

On really bendy roads the Spyder does have some advantages over a bike. You can often brake later, uneven road surfaces in the corners are not an issue, and you can push the tires to the limit without worrying what will happen if it does let go.

It also has disadvantages. Its physically harder ride hard in the bends and you lack the acceleration coming out the corners.

I can ride a motorbike faster through the mountains than a Spyder but I enjoy the Spyder more because I can push it to its limit without worrying. Though the Spyder is more physically demanding (well the way I ride it), I find it less mentally exhausting, which is why I find my Spyder makes a great endurance rally 'bike'.

What's going to be interesting with the Nikon is if it ticks both boxes i.e. less physically demanding but with the extra safety net. One concern I have is the braking because they do mention it not being so good in the article. I would have assumed the extra rubber on the road, electronics etc should have meant they could have very good braking. Suggests that compromises may have been made to soften the experience, similar to Spyders having a low-spec sway bar as standard but brakes are harder to improve.

 

[Fat Baxter]

The first thing I thought of when I looked at the picture was, "man, keeping that thing in good rubber is going to be expensive!"

When I had my BMW, I winced at the cost of new tires, and their relatively (to a Spyder) short life span. Good two-wheel motorcycle tires ain't cheap. I so glad I can now go several years without worrying about new tires!

 

[dndfindley]

I trust you're referring to some other comment in the article and not this one?

Yes, I am referring to other comments in reference to the reason for a motorcycle that leans and has 2 wheels up front.

 

[UtahPete]

Looks like it's going to happen...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFU0HkIgtYs&feature=youtu.be

 

[ofdave]

a road test

good write up in Cycle World.
Seems the Niken is not a trike but classified as a motorcycle.
And it's not for beginners
https://www.cycleworld.com/surprise...ike-regular-motorcycle?CMPID=ene053118#page-8

 

[isthatahemi]

This isn’t a mobility scooter, it?s a sport touring bike with huge front end grip and real motorcycle power and mileage.

 

[isthatahemi]

If it doesn't lock when it is upright and coming to a stop, then what good is a 3 wheeled bike?

This isn't a mobility scooter, it's a sport touring bike with huge front end grip and real motorcycle power and mileage.

 

[isthatahemi]

Just thoughts - possibilities etc., Looks aside ( I don't like it ) .... I have some concerns about what could happen if one of the front tires hits a decent size rock ..... I know the industry have come a long way in the area of suspensions , especially the front. But I have doubts they can maintain optimum traction with that set-up....As I said when one tire hits a rock I think the other tire is going to break contact with the road surface , even if it's just for a mille-second. I don't think that's optimum. And I think with a knowledgeable expert Spyder rider ....the spyder would be faster .....jmho .... Mike :thumbup:

Lol - a Spyder can’t outrun my 2016 F150 on a twisty road, the Niken will perform as well or better as most sport bikes on a twisty road.

 

[AnthonyG]

So Yamaha invented a 3 legged motorcycle that still needs a kick stand?

 

[ofdave]

So Yamaha invented a 3 legged motorcycle that still needs a kick stand?

yep
motorcycles have kick stands, trikes don't