Flooding under hard acceleration

[Dragonrider]

I now have a Hindle, Green Filter, & cold air intake on my SM5. However, occasionally it acts like it floods under hard acceleration (sputter, sputter, pop - go). Anyone else experienced this?? Does it go away when the bike is fully warm?

I'll go back to full stock before I put a JB on it...

Thanx.

 

[Dudley]

There are many inputs about warming up the engine. Take heed and do so. It is better for the engine and the sputters should go away.

 

[Dragonrider]

Never ride before two bars - this is mid-heat range, but only a few miles.... not like coming off the freeway & 50 miles....

 

[boborgera]

I now have a Hindle, Green Filter, & cold air intake on my SM5. However, occasionally it acts like it floods under hard acceleration (sputter, sputter, pop - go). Anyone else experienced this?? Does it go away when the bike is fully warm?

I'll go back to full stock before I put a JB on it...

Thanx.

Your letting in more air then gas....in essence you leaned out the mixture. You probably need the JB :dontknow:

 

[Smylinacha]

I've got the 2 brothers single can and the JB and HDX did the purge valve thing - I can start mine right up and go - don't have to wait for any bars. Before any of that was done I had to let it warm up to 2 bars or it would stall or be close to stalling.

 

[BajaRon]

Though you should not ride the Spyder hard until it gets at least a bar or 2 it doen't hurt to ride it easily right away. Actually, it can cause problems to let it sit and warm up at idle.

I doubt that you have a flooding issue. More likely it is a too lean situation that is giving you problems. With all the intake/exhaust mods you've made you really can't expect the Spyder to run well without fuel compensation to match what you have already done.

You will most likely need to return to stock or complete the path you've started out on.

What you've done so far is like putting 1 wing on an airplane. You're going in the right direction but without completing the job (another wing on the other side) it just won't fly.

 

[truck 85]

+1

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

Stock

I now have a Hindle, Green Filter, & cold air intake on my SM5. However, occasionally it acts like it floods under hard acceleration (sputter, sputter, pop - go). Anyone else experienced this?? Does it go away when the bike is fully warm?

I'll go back to full stock before I put a JB on it...

Thanx.

Probably lean not rich---JB or stock will more than likely work.

Michael:doorag:

 

[bone crusher]

Though you should not ride the Spyder hard until it gets at least a bar or 2 it doen't hurt to ride it easily right away. Actually, it can cause problems to let it sit and warm up at idle.

I doubt that you have a flooding issue. More likely it is a too lean situation that is giving you problems. With all the intake/exhaust mods you've made you really can't expect the Spyder to run well without fuel compensation to match what you have already done.

You will most likely need to return to stock or complete the path you've started out on.

What you've done so far is like putting 1 wing on an airplane. You're going in the right direction but without completing the job (another wing on the other side) it just won't fly.

Good call! Sometimes, the more mods, the NOT better...

 

[BajaRon]

Good call! Sometimes, the more mods, the NOT better...

Everything you do affects something else. A great example of this is the updates BRP has been doing. You fix one thing and break 2 more. Not supposed to go this way but it can.

Still, mods are fun and can really increase the enjoyment and effeciency of any vehicle. But some have to be done in conjuction with others to get the desired effect and avoid unwanted results.

The more you change the intake/exhaust flow the more likely it will be that you'll need to change the fuel as they are dependent on each other.

If you do it right you can get more HP, better performance and even better fuel mileage (the last being less likely but possible on the Spyder).

I've gone the whole route including the JB and I'm very happy. But it's not necessarily for everyone.

 

[sylblk]

is this happening in very cold weather? may want to remove the cold air intake mod in the winter. either way the j.b. is a must with your mods.

 

[SpyderWolf]

I have the Hindle and was thinking of getting the Kewl Metal Intake to add on as well. Do you think I would have the same issues with just these 2 pieces and need the Juice Box as well? If so, then what if I just went with the Green Filter?

 

[BLACK WIDOW]

Air

I have the Hindle and was thinking of getting the Kewl Metal Intake to add on as well. Do you think I would have the same issues with just these 2 pieces and need the Juice Box as well? If so, then what if I just went with the Green Filter?

To take advantage of the increased intake air flow, be it with "Green" filter, KewlMetal performance air intake or any others that will increase the air volume to your throttle bodies, it would be necessary to add fuel to the increased intake air to prevent a lean running condition.:f_spider:

Michael:doorag:

 

[boborgera]

To take advantage of the increased intake air flow, be it with "Green" filter, KewlMetal performance air intake or any others that will increase the air volume to your throttle bodies, it would be necessary to add fuel to the increased intake air to prevent a lean running condition.:f_spider:

Michael:doorag:

:agree:There are no miracle's here, Add air, have too add fuel.
Try this = Remove some body's air filter [car/ Spyder/ truck] don't tell them what you did, just say you did a performance up grade and just because of the extra noise they'll think they have 10 More HP.

 

[Bulldogger]

I now have a Hindle, Green Filter, & cold air intake on my SM5. However, occasionally it acts like it floods under hard acceleration (sputter, sputter, pop - go). Anyone else experienced this?? Does it go away when the bike is fully warm?

I'll go back to full stock before I put a JB on it...

Thanx.

Not to be mean but that really makes no sense at all, you are willing to do mods but not do them correctly. Hey when you bake a cake do you call it quits before you throw it in the oven:roflblack:. You should have just left it stock.

 

[BajaRon]

Not to be mean but that really makes no sense at all, you are willing to do mods but not do them correctly. Hey when you bake a cake do you call it quits before you throw it in the oven:roflblack:. You should have just left it stock.

I can agree that it seems a bit odd to stop when you're almost there. But I can also see his point.

He may not have been aware that what he was doing would impact other things as it has. Those of us who understand this dynamic see it as a 'no-brainer'. But we may have come by this knowledge the hard way just like this Spyder owner is.

He may not want to spend the money on a JB or mess with a fuel modification and would not have made the mods to the intake/exhaust if he'd know this going in. We know the JB is pretty much plug and play but he may think it is difficult to install/adjust and not willing to tackle it.

There are unknowns and possible misconseptions here and I'd tend to give the poor guy a break. After all, it appears he is about to take a beating on the upgrades and put his Spyder back to stock. Now that would definitely get me down.

 

[NancysToy]

I can agree that it seems a bit odd to stop when you're almost there. But I can also see his point.

He may not have been aware that what he was doing would impact other things as it has. Those of us who understand this dynamic see it as a 'no-brainer'. But we may have come by this knowledge the hard way just like this Spyder owner is.

He may not want to spend the money on a JB or mess with a fuel modification and would not have made the mods to the intake/exhaust if he'd know this going in. We know the JB is pretty much plug and play but he may think it is difficult to install/adjust and not willing to tackle it.

There are unknowns and possible misconseptions here and I'd tend to give the poor guy a break. After all, it appears he is about to take a beating on the upgrades and put his Spyder back to stock. Now that would definitely get me down.

Well said, Ron. :agree:

 

[boborgera]

I can agree that it seems a bit odd to stop when you're almost there. But I can also see his point.

He may not have been aware that what he was doing would impact other things as it has. Those of us who understand this dynamic see it as a 'no-brainer'. But we may have come by this knowledge the hard way just like this Spyder owner is.


:agree::agree::agree:

 

[SpyderWolf]

Thanks for the input! :2thumbs:

If it wasn't for this thread, I would have been going down the same road as I was getting ready to order the Kewl Metal Air Intake for my Spyder. I would have been in the same boat as the OP and had no idea why I was having the rough running problems. Now I need to decide if I want to continue down this path as well. It might not be so bad, but if I do it to mine then I am fairly sure my wife will want the same thing done to hers and we aren't talking chump change at that point.

 

[Bulldogger]

Okay now your just making me feel bad. I was always under the impression that people who like to mod their machines have a better understanding of how one aspect of change would effect another area. My Bad. As for modding cost you can buy a Hindle exhaust off another member on this forum or ebay pretty cheap $100-300, juice box $230 shipped ebay, cold air intake $200-300. With careful bargin hunting $550 for all of it.