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Flag and National Anthem protests
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cmbspyderrss
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To all Serviceman, Servicewomen and their families. Thank you from myself, my family to you and yours. While i was the only male in my family to unfortunately not serve, i with all deepest thanks and admiration appreciate your service that allow me to be able to even write this.
I am 45yo so you can do some math to figure the first 2 out. Moms parents born in 1898.
Great Grandfather (Mom Side) - IRB
Grandfather (Mom Side) - IRB
Grandfather (Dad Side) - Royal Navy WW1
Uncle (Mom Side) - Navy Sonar Operator WW2
Dad - Army 1964-69
Nephew 1 - Navy 2010-15
Nephew 2 - Navy 2011-16
* Countless friends and extended family
IdahoMtnSpyder
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Hmmmmmm, by that definition I'm Military Affiliated three ways. Never thought of it that way before. I worked in the Navy nuclear propulsion program right after college for 6 years, worked for the Army in ammunition production oversight for 7 years, and have a brother who was a Navy aircraft carrier jet jockey, served 21 years and retired as Commander.
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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while kapernick is not working where is he protesting or donating his time?
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Bob Denman
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He's busy in Court: suing the NFL... :banghead:
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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if he is not doing so 10 hours a day then i guess he is just full of s**t about the 'cause'.
BoilerAnimal
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Actually, Kapernick is fulfilling his promise. http://www.motherjones.com/crime-ju...p-brags-giving-charity-colin-kaepernick-does/
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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i would like to know is the money from the foundation his or those who donated? for me $100 would be $500,000 on his level. i am
not knocking that he is trying to help but i want to know does he cry loud or work to stop the problems he preaches about?
when my aunt nancy started the susie komen breast cancer thing she and her parients put millions $$ into it and spent all
their time with it for many years. what kind of investment is kaepernick looking to do?
Firefly
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For starters he works out every day to be prepared if he gets called up. He's donated plenty of money and time to various charities as well.
He's probably donated and done more than everyone on this thread combined.....
The (manufactured) outrage over this kneeling is ridiculous and wasn't an issue until the orange idiot wouldn't shut his mouth about it. One would think he'd have better things to concentrate on than a stupid football game and what players are doing or not doing. We have SERIOUS issues our country is facing, yet this is a big issue that is taking up the headlines? :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
Firefly
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He's not in court.. he has attorneys for that. I'm glad he's suing them. If they have systematically blocked him from employment due to his freedom of speech on this issue, then they should be sued.
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This should be of interest to many as well.. especially those who hate socialism....
SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN
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this is what i read in a rule book for nfl:
Throughout the period on game-day that a player is visible to the stadium and television audience (including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and during postgame interviews in the locker room or on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been approved in advance by the League office. Items to celebrate anniversaries or memorable events, or to honor or commemorate individuals, such as helmet decals, and arm bands and jersey patches on players’ uniforms, are prohibited unless approved in advance by the League office. All such items approved by the League office, if any, must relate to team or League events or personages. The League will not grant permission for any club or player to wear, display, or otherwise convey messages, through helmet decals, arm bands, jersey patches, or other items affixed to game uniforms or equipment, which relate to political activities or causes, other non-football events, causes or campaigns, or charitable causes or campaigns. Further, any such approved items must be modest in size, tasteful, non-commercial, and noncontroversial; must not be worn for more than one football season; and if approved for use by a specific team, must not be worn by players on other teams in the League.
he never got approval to do so and i think it might be considered controversial.
Throughout the period on game-day that a player is visible to the stadium and television audience (including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and during postgame interviews in the locker room or on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been approved in advance by the League office. Items to celebrate anniversaries or memorable events, or to honor or commemorate individuals, such as helmet decals, and arm bands and jersey patches on players’ uniforms, are prohibited unless approved in advance by the League office. All such items approved by the League office, if any, must relate to team or League events or personages. The League will not grant permission for any club or player to wear, display, or otherwise convey messages, through helmet decals, arm bands, jersey patches, or other items affixed to game uniforms or equipment, which relate to political activities or causes, other non-football events, causes or campaigns, or charitable causes or campaigns. Further, any such approved items must be modest in size, tasteful, non-commercial, and noncontroversial; must not be worn for more than one football season; and if approved for use by a specific team, must not be worn by players on other teams in the League.
he never got approval to do so and i think it might be considered controversial.
This should be of interest to many as well.. especially those who hate socialism....
I like my socialized medicine aka VA Healthcare.
Socialism is an economic system that gets confused with communism, which is a political system.
The antithesis of Socialism is Capitalism, not Democracy.
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BoilerAnimal
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Thanks Firefly, I absolutely love Bill Maher's commentaries.
As far as socialism is concerned, research "Nordic Model".
As far as socialism is concerned, research "Nordic Model".
BoilerAnimal
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2Paw
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If they have blocked him from employment due to his freedom of speech, then they should be sued. But is he just not employable because of the controversy. I also think he was in violation of his terms of employment maybe should have only been disciplined, the first time but he continued to violate the terms, so you're fired. I've seen it happen in the corporate world and even as a manager was forced to fire someone for that reason. Do you think if he promises not to do it anymore he might find a job with another team? If he won't then maybe it's his own fault he doesn't have a job. It all makes by brain hurt and I don't have enough facts to figure it out anyway. :banghead:
ARtraveler
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There is a good argument for K not being employed because he has lost his luster as an accomplished QB. The first year--he "led" his team to the Super Bowl. Subsequent--not so much. Words that he is not a team player, does not like the plays etc. have come into focus. Going to be hard to prove the intent of the lawsuit--IMO.
Bob Denman
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Why should the owner of ANY business have to hire somebody who has proven to be disruptive in the work environment? :dontknow:
It's not about his "Freedom of Speech". nojoke
That doesn't exist in the workplace...
It's not about his "Freedom of Speech". nojoke
That doesn't exist in the workplace...
And now, to get this thread back onto its original theme; Watch this if you think #TakeAKnee protests are 'disrespecting the flag'
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1719676148063868/
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisPolitics/videos/1719676148063868/
Bob Denman
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nojokeYes!
Well, that's it then.
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