Flag and National Anthem protests

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

Al,
Anyone who believes in the principal beliefs of our Country will tell you that not standing for the presentation of the Flag, and the National Anthem; is a right that is guaranteed...

Whether or not it is bad manners: that's the issue here.

Hey, i'm not going to hit or shoot someone for not doing so but again i have the same right to call the individual any name that i want
whether they find it offensive or not. i have the right to burn the koran or bible or flag any time i want. just because it is offensive to
some or many i should have a right to do so? well i don't agree, you should not have a right to incite violence and don't tell me
that isn't so, al sharpton & many other protesters have done so and are still doing it. hell, louis farakkan has a street named after him
in brooklyn and he fully stated for segragation and the extermination of the white race and showed contempt for mlk. tell me where
our freedom of religion should end for the good of the people, our elected officials don't really say that a good muslim would be one
who follows the koran and kills all infidels while a radical muslim doesn't agree with mohammad and rape young girls or drink camel
piss as the koran and allah wish. so please tell me where someones rights end and the good of the country and it's people begin.

enough of this, now i am going to watch ghosts of mars on sockshare.net
p.s. andy griffith is on tv land right now. (i have that on the tv on mute).

 

[Bob Denman]

Hey, i'm not going to hit or shoot someone for not doing so but again i have the same right to call the individual any name that i want
whether they find it offensive or not. i have the right to burn the koran or bible or flag any time i want. just because it is offensive to some or many i should have a right to do so? well i don't agree, you should not have a right to incite violence

:shocked: I think that your prescription medications might need some "adjustments... nojoke

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

:shocked: I think that your prescription medications might need some "adjustments... nojoke

Why, because i don't agree that others should be able to incite violence? are you serious?! i believe in showing respect for that
which deserves it, our country does, our politicians do not. Our police as a whole do but there are definetly some who don't.

 

[UtahPete]

Why, because i don't agree that others should be able to incite violence? are you serious?! i believe in showing respect for that
which deserves it, our country does, our politicians do not. Our police as a whole do but there are definetly some who don't.

I think it's because you are showing a propensity to react disproportionately to the perceived threat. Not just on this thread. Seriously.

 

[SPECTACUALR SPIDERMAN]

I think it's because you are showing a propensity to react disproportionately to the perceived threat. Not just on this thread. Seriously.

I agree, but i take no chances. i'm the guy who thinks when you pull a gun on someone you plan on shooting them not show
it off. (I don't own a gun) if you pull a bb gun on a cop and he shoots you did he overreact, if you believe yes then don't watch the news on what happen in
brooklyn overnight.
if you double park you are hurting many others blocks away with the traffic you cause just for you own selfish convenience. i look at
the big picture and the possibilities of the action and who it may effect. at my place we either hand torque or use torque sticks when
installing so as not to over tighten and prevent someone from removing when they get a flat. it doesn't happen often but do you want
to be the one stuck on the road.

 

[Bob Denman]

I think it's because you are showing a propensity to react disproportionately to the perceived threat. Not just on this thread. Seriously.

:shocked: Sad to say; but :agree:

 

[UtahPete]

It was US Army veteran, Nate Boyer, who suggested to Kaepernick to take a knee as a sign of respect. This is their inspiring story of what can happen when people with different perspectives decide to sit down, have a conversation, and hear each other out. #ColinKaepernick #NFL #Kaepernick

(Found this on Facebook; seems to be relevant but what do I know) https://youtu.be/I4nyaL8qmK0

I'm surprised there haven't been other comments on this video.

 

[BoilerAnimal]

I no longer do Facebook. It's very nice living without it, I might add!

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked:

 

[UtahPete]

:shocked:

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I think you brought it back to life, Bob. Maybe it was just sleeping.

 

[Bob Denman]

I'm trying to rebuild my picture repository, and I just found that one! :roflblack:

 

[wyliec]

I think you brought it back to life, Bob. Maybe it was just sleeping.

Don't get me started. I'm still thinking of that one post that you and I disagreed on.

I think Bob D. is trying to resurrect this thread.

 

[ARtraveler]

Hot off the internet--where everything posted is true.......:roflblack:

Collin Kapernick (don't care if spelled wrong), filed a "collusion" action against the NFL yesterday, stating they were out to get him for what he started. The internet is saying that this is going to be pretty much the kiss of death to Mr. K's football career--still no offers from anyone. The collusion filing should take care of it.

Did karma strike? :thumbup:

 

[UtahPete]

Don't get me started. I'm still thinking of that one post that you and I disagreed on.

I'm not even sure which one you're referring to, but in any case let's go PM with it.

 

[UtahPete]

Hot off the internet--where everything posted is true.......:roflblack:

Collin Kapernick (don't care if spelled wrong), filed a "collusion" action against the NFL yesterday, stating they were out to get him for what he started. The internet is saying that this is going to be pretty much the kiss of death to Mr. K's football career--still no offers from anyone. The collusion filing should take care of it.

Did karma strike? :thumbup:

All that should matter is whether or not he's a good player. I don't know because I don't watch corporate sports.

 

[Bob Denman]

Let's just say that "The bloom was off his bouquet of roses..." :clap:

 

[2Paw]

All that should matter is whether or not he's a good player. I don't know because I don't watch corporate sports.

:agree: BUT protesting was not what he was being paid to do. He was a representative of the Team and the League and IMHO he was not doing his job and he was fired for it, also IMO the coach and the owner who allowed this behavior should have been disciplined/fined by the league also. I as a fan pay for entertainment and if I don't get what I paid for I'm free to go elsewhere, just like going to a different dealer if I don't like the service. If you want to protest do it on your own time and on your own dime. Don't waste my time and money.
I fought for this country when it wasn't popular to do so and I just think there was a better way he could have done this.
Every Redneck I know has said this at one time "it seemed like a good idea at the time"

 

[UtahPete]

BUT protesting was not what he was being paid to do. He was a representative of the Team and the League and IMHO he was not doing his job and he was fired for it, also IMO the coach and the owner who allowed this behavior should have been disciplined/fined by the league also. I as a fan pay for entertainment and if I don't get what I paid for I'm free to go elsewhere, just like going to a different dealer if I don't like the service. If you want to protest do it on your own time and on your own dime. Don't waste my time and money. I fought for this country when it wasn't popular to do so and I just think there was a better way he could have done this.
Every Redneck I know has said this at one time "it seemed like a good idea at the time"

Maybe it's considered part of the entertainment? I don't know - I don't have a dog in this fight (NFL players' behavior).

I do have to say, though, that having served in the military doesn't give our arguments any more weight or relevance. I wish people would just express their opinions as Americans and not muddy the waters with assumptions about their affiliations giving them more gravity. It's that kind of talk and thinking that drives wedges between factions I think.

 

[Bob Denman]

Serving in our Nation's Military is far more than a mere "affiliation". nojoke
By calling it that: you do a disservice to our Veterans... nojoke

Or was this just a poor choice of words? :dontknow:

 

[UtahPete]

Serving in our Nation's Military is far more than a mere "affiliation".
By calling it that: you do a disservice to our Veterans... nojoke

Or was this just a poor choice of words? :dontknow:

I am a veteran, Bob. Combat. Vietnam. I just don't think that entitles me to a greater acceptance or respect for my opinions.

I agree, serving in the military is more than a mere affiliation - it's a serious commitment and sacrifice. But, I'm no longer active service, so my affiliation is with other military veterans (of which I'm proud), not the military.

But, as always, I respect your right to see things differently.