Fessing up ....

[HayRog]

Brave man--very brave. :bowdown::bowdown:

I think you are right up there now. If you want to read about someone that did similar--search for the thread "Stupid Pills." That may give you a laugh or two. That one cost me about $500 bucks. And I did it in my driveway. :roflblack::roflblack:

Good one AK - pretty funny
Not that I'd think of doing that --- joking of course, already been there in a work truck !

 

[HayRog]

I have the T stems on my 2012 RTL and have had no problem with them. I like them because it lets me adjust the air pressure without removing the FOBO. I put the screw type on my original valve stems. When I put them on I mounted them so that the "T" part points straight up towards the center of the wheel so I have room for the FOBO heads. The other part of course points out for ease of air input. The nice thing about the screw on type is that they have a swivel nut that allows you to position them before you tighten them down. Without these I think I would get rid of my FOBO as it is too much hassle to be removing them to adjust air pressure.

Pegasus,
Saw your pics when you posted - neat set-up - haven't seen the screw on types anywhere yet -- but I'm ascared (redneck dialect) now

 

[HayRog]

Just got home with the new tires and straight metal stems mounted on wheels -- bolt them up tomorrow. Re-calibrate rear FOBO sensor on cell phone and be good to go.
Hope I don't speak too soon. LOL
Big props to Elk Grove Power Sports for taking care of me pretty quickly, and not laughing at me

 

[Peter Aawen]

.... Think I damaged the rim or tire folks ?? They look OK.
I do a shame faced visit to the dealer this morning -- wheels in hand.....

The tire has ABSOBLOODYLUTELY HAD IT!! It doesn't matter how good it looks from the outside, take the tire off the rim & inspect the inside - almost certainly, it's gonna be visibly shredded, & even if it isn't visibly shredded, after riding on it flat for anything more than about 30 yards or so, it certainly will have torn/damaged the sidewall plies embedded inside the rubber, making the tire a throw-away & well beyond JUST dangerously unsafe!! :yikes: nojoke :yikes:

On a new tire, if you look inside them you can usually see the inside skin that looks a slightly different colour than the outside rubber, THAT skin is the bit that keeps the air in & allows the tire to hold the load off the road surface at the same time as letting the outside bits get up to their operating temperature - any damage to that means the tire is compromised! Most reasonable quality tires (probably not Kendas tho!) can easily handle running at low pressures for a fair while, just so long as the rim isn't pinching tire rubber between it & the road - in fact I've purposefully run tires at less than 10 psi for over 2000 miles (was paid to do so actually - testing, at slow speeds of course!) Buuut, unless the tires you are on are specially designed Run Flat Tires, they can usually only last maybe a few 10's of metres/yards of running absolutely flat, which effectively means having the rim pressing all the load onto their insides when the tire's flat; so maybe they'll survive running 20-30metres MAX; but beyond that, then internal damage, visible or not, is pretty much guaranteed!! So beyond that sort of distance, the tire's definitely toast, & an inside inspection will reveal that very quickly!! So get your tire off the rim & have a look - I'm reasonably sure you'll be horrified at the damage that IS going to be there, & even more horrified that you ever even considered riding anywhere on that after your slow trip home!! :shocked:

While the tire is off the rim, check the rim carefully for any gouges or cracks on the raised bead sealing edge - if there are any sharp gouges or visible cracks, the rim will also be a throw away, but I doubt riding carefully & slowly while you actually had rubber between the rim & the road will have killed it - but you still MUST CHECK!! Running an alloy rim on the road directly (with no rubber between it & road surface) WILL damage it, so you need to check very carefully!! Steel rims will probably survive a touch or two, & you can usually hammer out any dents & file off any sharp edges/nicks; but you can't really safely hammer an alloy rim back into shape & visible cracks mean the invisible stuff makes the rim VERY unsafe!! That said, modern (quality) alloy rims are stronger than steel rims, & some can even be re-rolled back into shape if deformed, but flexing & bending them anywhere can compromise the structure & create weak areas, it takes specialist gear & skills, & should involve X-rays afterwards to confirm they are up to the stresses of riding safely! :sour:

Still, to sum it all up, your Tire is DEFINITELY TOAST, throw it away & get a new one!! The rim should be OK, unless the raised edge has touched the ground directly (without rubber between it & the road surface) in which case you need to very carefully inspect it for damage. If you know it touched the road surface with the alloy rim anywhere, or if can see any damage on the alloy rim, then it needs specialist inspection before being deemed 'safe', & that just might be more expensive than replacing both the front alloys, particularly if you go with a/mkt rims anyway!! :dontknow:

Don't be too hard on yourself tho, the longer you ride (or live for that matter :lecturef_smilie the more likely you will do some dumb things - the real trick you want to take from all this is to learn to recognise those dumb things & learn from those dumb things before you make them worse by doing something even dumber!! :shocked: Oh, hang on, you've already recognised & learnt about dumb step one followed by dumber step two, haven't you!! It's just some of us slow learners who managed to keep going for a while!! I can tell you from experience that having a tire AND RIM disintegrate at speed underneath you is NOT FUN!! And it's made soooo much more NOT FUN when you know you shoulda read the writing on the wall (& the chips/cracks in the rim) & thrown it away back when you changed out that tire you'd shredded earlier!! pps: Like I said, I might be a slow learner, but once I've learnt a lesson, it sticks! :2thumbs:

 

[jaherbst]

Hayrog, One word of advice. "Don't admit you stole the Church even is the Steeple is sticking out your

Pocket". This way you won't have to take this terrible "flogging" everyone is giving you!

" I was only wrong once. Once I thought I was wrong but it turned out I was right" :joke:

Jack

 

[HayRog]

Hayrog, One word of advice. "Don't admit you stole the Church even is the Steeple is sticking out your

Pocket". This way you won't have to take this terrible "flogging" everyone is giving you!

" I was only wrong once. Once I thought I was wrong but it turned out I was right" :joke:

Jack

Duly noted - LOL
I like your Jackism also.

 

[HayRog]

The tire has ABSOBLOODYLUTELY HAD IT!! It doesn't matter how good it looks from the outside, take the tire off the rim & inspect the inside - almost certainly, it's gonna be visibly shredded, & even if it isn't visibly shredded, after riding on it flat for anything more than about 30 yards or so, it certainly will have torn/damaged the sidewall plies embedded inside the rubber, making the tire a throw-away & well beyond JUST dangerously unsafe!! :yikes: nojoke :yikes:

On a new tire, if you look inside them you can usually see the inside skin that looks a slightly different colour than the outside rubber, THAT skin is the bit that keeps the air in & allows the tire to hold the load off the road surface at the same time as letting the outside bits get up to their operating temperature - any damage to that means the tire is compromised! Most reasonable quality tires (probably not Kendas tho!) can easily handle running at low pressures for a fair while, just so long as the rim isn't pinching tire rubber between it & the road - in fact I've purposefully run tires at less than 10 psi for over 2000 miles (was paid to do so actually - testing, at slow speeds of course!) Buuut, unless the tires you are on are specially designed Run Flat Tires, they can usually only last maybe a few 10's of metres/yards of running absolutely flat, which effectively means having the rim pressing all the load onto their insides when the tire's flat; so maybe they'll survive running 20-30metres MAX; but beyond that, then internal damage, visible or not, is pretty much guaranteed!! So beyond that sort of distance, the tire's definitely toast, & an inside inspection will reveal that very quickly!! So get your tire off the rim & have a look - I'm reasonably sure you'll be horrified at the damage that IS going to be there, & even more horrified that you ever even considered riding anywhere on that after your slow trip home!! :shocked:

While the tire is off the rim, check the rim carefully for any gouges or cracks on the raised bead sealing edge - if there are any sharp gouges or visible cracks, the rim will also be a throw away, but I doubt riding carefully & slowly while you actually had rubber between the rim & the road will have killed it - but you still MUST CHECK!! Running an alloy rim on the road directly (with no rubber between it & road surface) WILL damage it, so you need to check very carefully!! Steel rims will probably survive a touch or two, & you can usually hammer out any dents & file off any sharp edges/nicks; but you can't really safely hammer an alloy rim back into shape & visible cracks mean the invisible stuff makes the rim VERY unsafe!! That said, modern (quality) alloy rims are stronger than steel rims, & some can even be re-rolled back into shape if deformed, but flexing & bending them anywhere can compromise the structure & create weak areas, it takes specialist gear & skills, & should involve X-rays afterwards to confirm they are up to the stresses of riding safely! :sour:

Still, to sum it all up, your Tire is DEFINITELY TOAST, throw it away & get a new one!! The rim should be OK, unless the raised edge has touched the ground directly (without rubber between it & the road surface) in which case you need to very carefully inspect it for damage. If you know it touched the road surface with the alloy rim anywhere, or if can see any damage on the alloy rim, then it needs specialist inspection before being deemed 'safe', & that just might be more expensive than replacing both the front alloys, particularly if you go with a/mkt rims anyway!! :dontknow:

Don't be too hard on yourself tho, the longer you ride (or live for that matter :lecturef_smilie the more likely you will do some dumb things - the real trick you want to take from all this is to learn to recognise those dumb things & learn from those dumb things before you make them worse by doing something even dumber!! :shocked: Oh, hang on, you've already recognised & learnt about dumb step one followed by dumber step two, haven't you!! It's just some of us slow learners who managed to keep going for a while!! I can tell you from experience that having a tire AND RIM disintegrate at speed underneath you is NOT FUN!! And it's made soooo much more NOT FUN when you know you shoulda read the writing on the wall (& the chips/cracks in the rim) & thrown it away back when you changed out that tire you'd shredded earlier!! pps: Like I said, I might be a slow learner, but once I've learnt a lesson, it sticks! :2thumbs:

Good post here ^^^^Pete - thanks. Your posts are always informative.

Dealership inspected the rim and there was no damage. Got the old tire back from them and checked it out when I got home.

Inside looks OK, but as you said, there could be internal damage.

The outer side wall on the other hand showed many small stress cracks where it had been compressed between the rim and the road surface. Plus, the outer tread of the tyre (spelled for you ) has been prematurely rounded off.

Only good for planting tomatoes in now