F3 vs. RS

[SPYD3R]

NOTHING

Here is what I don't understand.........

The SlingShot is released and Polaris has a press event where the media drive it, write articles, do video articles, give driving impressions, etc, etc. The F3 is released and BRP has none of this.

Why?

ROB;
my dear friend.....
this post has NOTHING to do with the slingshot..... that thing is a CAR.... we are talking about the differences between the F3 & RS.... i'm try'n to figure what what i need to do come Jan. 1st.... the slingshot isn't even a minor consideration to me... it's a NON-ISSUE....
sorry to break your heart.... but that's just how it is...
Dan P
Easley, SC
SPYD3R

 

[billrob71]

F3 w 115 hp and 850lb and my 08 RS 106 hp at 697 lb dry weight both --- don't see the hp gain I'm looking for - right now the 1330 RT won't beat my RS 0 to 100 - I am craving high HP - guess wait for demo ride to see if it enough ----- disappointed in only 115 hp grrrrrrrrrr

Half to agree I'm curious to see how the new ones run but numbers don't lie and 150 plus more in weight and 9 horsepower more vs your RS , don't think its gonna be a faster machine to the higher mph mark however the new motor does have a 6 gear and that changes the gear ratio inside the box and that may compensate for the extra weight. A seat of the pants ride gonna be the true test only have a short while to wait, it'll be here soon enough

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

ROB;
my dear friend.....
this post has NOTHING to do with the slingshot..... that thing is a CAR.... we are talking about the differences between the F3 & RS.... i'm try'n to figure what what i need to do come Jan. 1st.... the slingshot isn't even a minor consideration to me... it's a NON-ISSUE....
sorry to break your heart.... but that's just how it is...
Dan P
Easley, SC
SPYD3R

I understand that Dan. I was just pointing out that if BRP had their marketing in place correctly (more like Polaris) then you would have better information to make your comparisons and/or decision from day one of release.

 

[Bob Denman]

So what you are saying is, your just another cookie jar test pilot (paid to go).......... I'll wait until the real test riders comment. .:thumbup: Your review seems straight from the textbook.......

:shocked::hun:
What do you expect BRP to do? If they flew YOU up there; would you believe your own opinion, if you thought that it was a great bike? :dontknow:

Like they say... "C'mon, man..."

 

[arntufun]

:shocked::hun:
What do you expect BRP to do? If they flew YOU up there; would you believe your own opinion, if you thought that it was a great bike? :dontknow:

Like they say... "C'mon, man..."

If I remember correctly, BRP had a certain person test ride the all new 2013 ST and gave them a great review.

Once this "person" owned one, this "person" quickly found out it wasn't nothing but problems with heat and melting parts and tried many things so this person could even ride it......... I'm just saying, before you recommend a product while compensated, be sure your word will hold up in real life.

I love the F3 and think it's bad azz, but I'm also smart enough to check it out for myself before I commit and not get caught up in compensated hype. :thumbup:

 

[RotaxDuramax]

I thought the new RS is also getting the same sport tuned VSS as the new F3 has?

But I HATE the new colors of the RS. Not really the colors themselves but the fact they have more colors then a crayon box.

When I see one at a dealer near me, I'll bring my helmet and lunch box... if both will fit in the storage compartment(not at the same time of course), it's good to go... if not, I'm keeping my RS.

 

[sledmaster]

So what you are saying is, your just another cookie jar test pilot (paid to go).......... I'll wait until the real test riders comment. .:thumbup: Your review seems straight from the textbook.......I'm just saying, before you recommend a product while compensated, be sure your word will hold up in real life.

I love the F3 and think it's bad azz, but I'm also smart enough to check it out for myself before I commit and not get caught up in compensated hype.

Before you call somebody a cookie jar test pilot you had better gather a bit more information before you start pointing fingers.

I stand behind my experience and credentials. I have been testing and doing critical reviews on new powersport vehicles for my entire adult life. They did not pay me, so save your cheap shot name-calling for posers. They get us to a venue so we can evaluate the new products. Getting a ride to a test location is not being paid or compensated.

Further, I have purchased and ridden three Spyders for over 80,000 miles. Money out of my own pocket. I have logged over 200,000 miles on snowmobiles and have ridden every new sled model over the past 27 years. Real test rider? This is as real as it gets. I had over 80x the Spyder experience of anyone else there at the test opportunity. Right now this is likely the most experienced feedback you are going to get, and members of this forum want to know more about this exciting new product.

I got to ride it, I am telling you what I experienced. I did not proclaim anything I can not stand behind. I encourage you to ride one for yourself. Not long ago I told everyone how there was no way I would want or ride an F3. I am not a cruiser rider. But this new machine does in fact offer dynamic advantages with the new riding position that change how the vehicle acts in your hands. Do not make decisions based on spec sheets or visuals, ride one for yourself and you will experience the difference for yourself. I did. The OP asked about how the F3 compared to an RS, I provided valuable feedback. I am trying to provide accurate information so the forum members can better make informed decisions. If you don't like that, don't read my posts.

 

[fas2000]

What a wonderful dilemma to have. Your question really started making my thoughts stir . So while you are the only one who can make that decision, and what i say should not have any bearing to your decision, let me tell you what I would do. I feel i base my judgement on my finances, and return of enjoyment for the dollars i spend since it is a limited resource. So here goes:

5. cost 20k
choice: rs + f3.
reason: I think this is the worst of choices. Your rs gives you pleasure say you can rank it 8/10. Your F3 say will give you a 10/10. But I feel you cannot add these together as once you buy your F3 the rs will give you diminishing satisfaction. so your satisfaction will not add to 18/10. You will get perhaps only 13/10. So for the $$/satisfaction, this would be pretty much off my chart. you will not ride your rs, you will be on your new beauty. plus paying double insurance. bad choice in my book.

4. cost 0
choice: only rs
I figured I would keep this an option. Its not a bad one. you spent nothing, you have been happy, nothing wrong with that. cost is still 0. if it aint broke dont fix it. And you got the most value for your dollar. satisfaction level 8/10. nice life!

3. cost 34k
choice: f3 + slingshot
reason: OK, i know im throwing in a monkey wrench here. But hear me out. One option for me would be to sell the rs and get an f3, and slingshot. I mean think about it. You have two separate toys, separate excitement. One butt, two toys. What a great life. Ok assume that the slingshot is not as desirable as the F3, so lets give it a 9.5/10 satisfaction level, so i spent 34k (-6k for selling the rs) and i got 19.5/10 satisfaction. not a bad option, but a bit pricey.

2. cost 14k
choice: only F3
reason: So i figure if you went to sell your RS you will get around 6k for it. I have a 2008 rs with 12k and i probably feel i would get about the same. So you sell the RS, buy the F3. your satisfaction level will be a 10/10 and you spent 14k, i think that is good satisfaction/$$$ . And this would and could be a very real situation for me.

#1. cost 20k
choice: rs + slingshot
reason: Ok so i know I might get slack for this. But if i think about it, the F3 looks so nice, i really like it. But if i want the most satisfaction for me $$$, i would go for the slingshot now. It is not that i like the slingshot more then the F3. In fact I do not, i rather have the F3 over the slingshot. But i already have the RS. And while the F3 is wonderful, the $$$ I spend for a slingshot will give me much more return. Say i have an 8/10 with my spyder as i have had it for a while and say the F3, gives me a 9.5/10 as its the new toy (but not a 10/10 like the f3 might give me), this would give me a great 17.5/10 satisfaction level. That is great satisfaction level to me and not bad coin spent....

I would only make any of these decisions if i have cash up front. i would not make any of these decisions if i had to finance it.
man,, you have a great decision to make on your hands. Have fun deciding. (btw you were the one selling the soft hangrips at spyderquest right? sorry i didnt get em .

Fas

 

[Bob Denman]

Randy,
I'm not going to throw SledMaster's entire pos in here just to say that I agree with him...
But I do.
But look at the man; and the quality of his observations over the time that he's been here.
He's always given accurate observations, and hasn't shown a habit of leaning towards hyperbole.
Just because somebody likes something; it's dangerous to assume that they are a shill...
Maybe, it IS that good.
:lecturef_smilie: Throw your butt over one, and prove everybody wrong!

 

[SPYD3R]

GOOGLE

what's this.....?????

i just GOOGLEd F3 and got this: http://www.nostalgic.net/1969-murray-f3-eliminator-24x20-wheels

is somebody at BRP being nostalgic with naming the new SPYD3R F3...?

 

[Lamonster]

If I remember correctly, BRP had a certain person test ride the all new 2013 ST and gave them a great review.

Once this "person" owned one, this "person" quickly found out it wasn't nothing but problems with heat and melting parts and tried many things so this person could even ride it......... I'm just saying, before you recommend a product while compensated, be sure your word will hold up in real life.

I love the F3 and think it's bad azz, but I'm also smart enough to check it out for myself before I commit and not get caught up in compensated hype. :thumbup:

If you're talking about me and I'm sure you are, I was not basing my review on compensation, I never have and never will. What I rode and what became the production unit were two different machines. If I was all about the compensation I wouldn't have gave my review of the problems I had would I? My reputation means more to me than a free Spyder or anything else.

As far as the F3 goes, I've been working on this project with BRP for 4 years. This is the Spyder I asked for down to every detail including the adjustable controls. Can things change from what we are riding now to the production unit? I suppose so but my bet is this will be the first Spyder that is right from day one. I'm sure there will be something that shows up but it won't be like the ST that's for sure.

So next time just say my name, I'm a big boy and can handle it.

 

[Bob Denman]

(he might have had a different "bird" in mind...)

Love the new signature pic! :thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

Thank you for posting Lamonster. Integrity counts very big for most of us. I for one believe you are telling it like it is. :2thumbs:

I am guessing that big lessons were learned in 2013 and that will not crop up in the future.

 

[robmorg]

Wait another year and see if they'll put the bigger motor in the RS.

:agree: That would be my recommendation. I think that 2016 is likely to bring a "meld" of the RS and the F3. OTOH, if after you test ride an F3, you fall in love with it, then you will have your answer. :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

After seeing some pictures of the F-3's nekkid front end yikes, I see now just how they shoehorned those twin radiators in there...



...it steals a LOT of space from the frunk. :banghead:

 

[bmccaffrey]

Here is what I don't understand.........

The Sliinformation gShot is released and Polaris has a press event where the media drive it, write articles, do video articles, give driving impressions, etc, etc. The F3 is released and BRP has none of this.

Why?

Rob your missing it. Scroll down to the F3 thread and you will find all the information you want:yes:

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: It's there... don't be bashful about it!

 

[ChasingWind]

Lamonster - why didn't you ask for more HP - now we know it's your fault it's only got 115hp you must of forgot about the hp in your requests [emoji14][emoji12]

 

[elixermixer]

F3

what's this.....?????

i just GOOGLEd F3 and got this: http://www.nostalgic.net/1969-murray-f3-eliminator-24x20-wheels

is somebody at BRP being nostalgic with naming the new SPYD3R F3...?

people say F3 and this is all I think about
mmmmmm MV

 

[StanProff]

After seeing some pictures of the F-3's nekkid front end yikes, I see now just how they shoehorned those twin radiators in there...



...it steals a LOT of space from the frunk. :banghead:

How many cruisers have a frunk anyway? Put bags on it and you have more storage than the two wheelers with bags. I have two naked cruisers, no bags, i have to bungee everything to the seat. With the f3 at least a jacket could be crammed into the little frunk. Just my thoughts.