F3 S- Motor Seize

[AZF3S]

Greetings all-

Purchased a 2015 Spyder F3 S last weekend. Picked up on Sunday, took it for a 15 minute ride...nothing extreme and on the way back home, the "Limp Home Mode" came on. Drove straight back to dealer service area. They ran a diagnostic and said it was throwing an oil pressure code from a sensor. They believed it to be the sensor itself and were replacing it today (Tues). Dealer just called and the engine seized during the test ride.

Needless to say, I'll have a new, identical F3 S on Thursday. Hope this type of thing doesn't happen often...and I'm sure it doesn't as this board would be littered with complaints.

 

[OJ UK]

What bad luck!

I've never heard of a 1330 seizing but your dealer's done the right thing and kept
you in the picture. Good luck with the replacement and here's to miles of trouble-free riding!

OH! By the way.....

 

[Lamonster]

Wow, that's the first I think I've heard on any new Spyder. Sorry for your bad luck but glad it happened when it did and where it did. I just did a little over 4000 miles on my last trip on the F3 with no issues and have no reason to think there ever will be. Don't give up on it. :doorag:

 

[Chupaca]

Yikes..!!

looks like it was more than the sensor..:yikes: thursday is a short wait but sorry it happened...

 

[AZF3S]

Thanks.....it was a little frustrating but glad the dealer is replacing the vehicle rather than performing warranty work.

Looking forward to years of enjoyment.

 

[tommyandbeth]

oil

I wonder if the dealer forgot to put enough oil in it!!!

 

[jcasey]

Hate to hear this. I have run mine pretty good for 2500 miles. Has not used a drop of oil. Go for first service next week.:clap:

 

[AZF3S]

I have every confidence that there was possibly a blocked oil passage...perhaps foreign object or something that migrated to block a passage. I work in aerospace quality and you'd be surprised how often something can pass approved test procedures at the factory, travel 1000 miles and fail on start up.

But, I also wouldn't be surprised if the bike was not properly set up at the dealer when uncrated.

Oh well...a new journey begins on Thursday.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: In spite of everything... you still have a positive outlook! :clap::firstplace: :2thumbs:

:spyder2: Lover!!

 

[AZF3S]

Absolutely Bob....I wanna ride an F3. Been quite a few years and a car accident-caused crushed hip since I rode so this is a whole new ballgame for me. :joke::joke::joke::joke:

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

I wonder if the dealer forgot to put enough oil in it!!!

:agree:....AND you were told the motor " SEIZED " during the test ride.......IMHO and experience when that happens ...the MOTOR stops all movement....period......The pistons adhere to the cylinder walls.................and I'm thinking " 0 " oil.......Glad they are taking care of it.....but I doubt anyone there is willing to take a polygraph on this one.........Mike :thumbup:

 

[one2doo]

:welcome:Glad your getting taken care of.

 

[ARtraveler]

Glad to hear they are taking care of business.

16K on my 1330 and no issues. I know of another with over 50K with same results.

Would love to be a little mouse in the corner at the dealership when they are discussing the seized engine.

 

[AZF3S]

I stopped by on the way for groceries just to snoop a little. Everyone was, "We aren't sure what caused it".... And no details. Oil?...Sensor?...nothing. Just engine failure. I bet BRE will be anxious to help analyze it.

 

[AZF3S]

Question for those reading this thread. I've looked and can't find much on performance exhaust results. Anyone claiming any HP gains?

 

[Supernam]

I am actually surprised they are giving you a new machine. I've read many horror stories of manufacturers replacing the engine only which is totally wrong in my opinion. Very happy you don't have to go through that.

 

[Bob Denman]

Question for those reading this thread. I've looked and can't find much on performance exhaust results. Anyone claiming any HP gains?

It's kind f tough to get a Spyder onto a chassis dyno... If all 3 wheels are spinning at the same rate; Nanny gets cranky! :shocked:
Folks do seem to like Lamont's Catalytic converter by-pass pipe... :thumbup:

 

[jaherbst]

I stopped by on the way for groceries just to snoop a little. Everyone was, "We aren't sure what caused it".... And no details. Oil?...Sensor?...nothing. Just engine failure. I bet BRE will be anxious to help analyze it.

Was your dealer a Ride Now Motorsports? I am sure everyone would like to know here in AZ. They do not have the best reputation but are a monopoly in this part of the world with 36+ dealerships. BRP and not the dealer would have made this decision to replace anyway. I do not think that a crate build would involve anything internal such as the engine so it most likely was the engine build.

Jack

 

[AZF3S]

Ah Jack...you are wise beyond your years. Yes it was Ridenow. Entire process started out great, but went downhill from there. Wanted additional parts added...windshield and u-fit of front pegs....no inventory. And then this. While it may have been engine build, I do wonder about set up and fluid levels....but who knows...they aren't talking.

As long as the new one is ready on Thursday, I'll be happy.

 

[Xyzzy]

While it may have been engine build, I do wonder about set up and fluid levels....but who knows...they aren't talking.

I watched my dealer uncrate and assemble my F3-S. All of the fluids were already topped off by the factory. Even a little fuel was in the gas tank. If the dealer didn't check the oil properly they could have overfilled it, since the dry sump registers a low level until the engine is warmed up and idled for a while.