Electrical problem

[Atch]

I have a 2010 can am spyder rt-s with most the bells and whistles. My problem is with the switches that control the air ride, handle grip heaters, and the driving lights. They don’t seem to have power to them. Do they all use the same fuse? And where is the fuse located? I have already checked all the fuses in the fuse panel and 3-4 inline fuses that I could find. I really could use a hand to get my bike back on the road.

Thanks in advance
Atch

 

[CopperSpyder]

Atch I Moved your post from welcome area to RT area.

 

[Revalden]

Recheck the fuses individually with a DVOM. I've had fuses that look good but were actually bad. Then try swapping the relays that are in the same fuse block as the fuses. Look in Owners Manual to find the relay for those switches. You can probably get a new relay at any autoparts store, just take the bad one with you. Good luck.

 

[DGoebel]

Atch, just a little more Troubleshooting, does your horn work or not. It's on the same fuse as the Air Ride,

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Yeah. Everything fits for a blown fuse, F8, or bad load shedding relay, R5. If the horn doesn't work, it's the fuse. As mentioned, must be removed and tested. If the horn works make sure all relays are fully seated. You can test it by swapping with R4 or replace. Front fuse box. Labeling inside the cover.

 

[RICZ]

Atch, just a little more Troubleshooting, does your horn work or not. It's on the same fuse as the Air Ride,

Question: Does the horn circuit have a relay. Asking cuz I want to add a second for a more penetrating dual tone. I have a F3L, but my guess is if the RT horn is relayed, so would the F3L's.

 

[Snowbelt Spyder]

Well, the earlier year RT's were not relayed. Not sure if they changed that design for the newer years. Some folks that have added after market horns have added a relay, and some haven't. The horn button seems to be able to handle the extra load with no issues. Best bet would be to just check your fuse / relay boxes and see if you have a horn relay in your F3.

 

[RICZ]

That was one of the first things I did after bringing it home was to open the fuse boxes and check things out. There is a horn fuse, but no relay marked that its for the horn.
You are right; when in doubt - put a relay on it.

 

[DGoebel]

I had an aftermarket horn installed in my '13 at Spyderfest and they added a relay for it.

 

[Sarge]

I removed the stock horn and installed a Stebel air horn (139 db) in its place. I had to make a steel bracket about 6 or 8 inches long, used the original mounting bolt and positioned the horn in the left hand middle body grill so its output is straight out. It is LOUD! I did not use a relay, however, I have one on hand and at the ready just in case. I don't like NOT using a relay. From other posts, it should be fine as long as I don't lay on the horn for more than a second or two. One poster stated he hit it for 10 seconds with no ill affects. We'll see.

https://www.amazon.com/Stebel-11690019-Nautilus-Compact-Black/dp/B00CMX20H4

 

[safecracker]

This is a block diagram for 2010 to 2012. RT Spyders.

 

[Atch]

Already checked fuses with VOM all checked good. Will try to find relays tomorrow

 

[Atch]

Already checked fuses with VOM all checked good. Will try to find relays tomorrow
Can you tell me where the relay is located? I don’t have the maintenance manual yet

 

[Atch]

Are their fuses in the front of the bike, inside the front compartment?

 

[safecracker]

Yes, that is where the relays and fuses is located.

 

[JIM W]

If I remember right there's a plug under the left side Tupperware For all the switches maybe it got unplugged somehow.

 

[Entropy]

That was one of the first things I did after bringing it home was to open the fuse boxes and check things out. There is a horn fuse, but no relay marked that its for the horn.
You are right; when in doubt - put a relay on it.

Yep. Always. [ with an added suppression diode across the contacts for good measure ].

It's not so much the steady load when the button contact closes, it the repetitive arcing from opening/closing induced by the inductive loads of a horn that eventually degrades the button's contacts - (unless it's piezo).

I receive my 'free' paper service manual on Saturday - I'll check it to confirm/refute presence of a relay (2019 F3L), if you don't have an answer to yer Q by then.

Cheers
E

 

[spyderCodes]

It could be a fuse problem, of course.
I suppose multiple fuses could blow but it is kind of unlikely.
You may also want to check that the switches are securely seated in their individual sockets.
The sockets are a real adventure to get to, but if it isn't a fuse(s) then I think that remains a real possibility.

 

[Easy Rider]

If I remember right there's a plug under the left side Tupperware For all the switches maybe it got unplugged somehow.

THIS.
And.....I doubt that all of those things share a common relay. But I don't know that for sure.

Edit:
After looking at the diagram, it could be the "load shedding" relay.
In that case, the horn should still work.

 

[RICZ]

Yep. Always. [ with an added suppression diode across the contacts for good measure ]

Being more the wrench spinner type than an electrical guy, I know what a suppressor is on a gun, but a suppression diode? Ya got me there, E.
Ric