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EBC Rotors

Firefly said:
Hey Doc... I've read a few articles about this and it seems that brake rotors don't really 'warp'.. it's actually buildup on the rotors that causes the surface to be uneven.

http://www.examiner.com/auto-in-orlando/there-s-no-such-thing-as-warped-brake-rotors

Perhaps a good reason not to use the parking brake unless you really really have to.... or at least let things cool down before applying the parking brake...... ;)
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Sorry, I don't buy it. While warped rotors are not as common as most people believe, they certainly do exist. You can lay a straight edge across them and measure the warping. It is easy to tell build-up from the flat rotor surface. It would also be easy to turn off the build-up, keeping the same disc thickness...which is not the case normally. Most turning is necessitated not because of warpage, but because of grooves worn in the rotor surface, BTW, although warped rotors do sometimes show up on the brake lathe when they are being turned. It is my belief that warping is more prevalent in flat, floating rotors, such as motorcycle rotors, as opposed to fixed, ventilated, cast discs with their increased thickness and cast-iron construction.

BTW, nice to have you drop in at long last. Nancy and I were just wondering how you were getting along. We missed you here.
 
Firefly said:
Hey Doc... I've read a few articles about this and it seems that brake rotors don't really 'warp'.. it's actually buildup on the rotors that causes the surface to be uneven.

http://www.examiner.com/auto-in-orlando/there-s-no-such-thing-as-warped-brake-rotors

Perhaps a good reason not to use the parking brake unless you really really have to.... or at least let things cool down before applying the parking brake...... ;)
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I'm with Scotty on this one. Ran a brake shop for about 4 years and I can tell you that rotors definitely DO warp. It isn't warpage as most people think, I will agree to that. But the effect is the same and it AIN'T pad material buildup on the rotor surface.

Rather than bore you with the details, all you have to do is put a rotor on a lathe and run the cutter lightly against the surface. It goes Scrape, Scrape, Scrape as the lathe turns.... Why? Because it's hitting in some spots and not even coming close to touching the rotor on other areas.

This one is BOGUS!
 
kinggeek said:
BajaRon,

PM sent I want a set of front and a set of rear pads.
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Invoice has been sent and I can ship tomorrow.... But now I don't have anything to put on my Spyder! Oh well, it's the sound of commerce!:thumbup: But I won't cry if you change your mind!
 
I'm really not sure what to think either way-- but the logic behind the 'not actually warping' was sound to me... just seems like a pretty thick piece of metal to actually warp. Either way---- buildup or warp-- would be hard to tell as grinding them down would 'fix' either in the same manner. Would take a pretty detailed inspection to tell which it was as the burnt-on build up would seem very much like 'warpage'.

I don't think the average rider would encounter 'warpage' either way. I ride mine pretty hard and have yet to see any such problems. I did try the EBC organics--- and was very disappointed in the results- burnt through them really quick - and their pad 'kits' only come with the pads-- where the BRP ones come with new clips and I think bolts. I really like the BRP Gen 3 pads-- no noise and stop great.

I wouldn't dismiss the EBC products as they have a great reputation-- but those organic ones I found to be less that good.....
 
Firefly said:
I'm really not sure what to think either way-- but the logic behind the 'not actually warping' was sound to me... just seems like a pretty thick piece of metal to actually warp. Either way---- buildup or warp-- would be hard to tell as grinding them down would 'fix' either in the same manner. Would take a pretty detailed inspection to tell which it was as the burnt-on build up would seem very much like 'warpage'.

I don't think the average rider would encounter 'warpage' either way. I ride mine pretty hard and have yet to see any such problems. I did try the EBC organics--- and was very disappointed in the results- burnt through them really quick - and their pad 'kits' only come with the pads-- where the BRP ones come with new clips and I think bolts. I really like the BRP Gen 3 pads-- no noise and stop great.

I wouldn't dismiss the EBC products as they have a great reputation-- but those organic ones I found to be less that good.....
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These new ones from EBC are supposed to be the Cats Meow! But then what new product isn't. We should know pretty soon.

As far as the warp, it's pretty easy to tell stainless steel from burnt on (or otherwise) brake material. If you ever run a brake lathe you'll have no doubt about it.
 
EBC PADS AND ROTORS

RON are you adding these items to your list of products yet or still testing....Have you firmed up pricing ??....Mike...:thumbup:
 
Got the package :yes::yes::yes::

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BRAKES

PUT THEM ON...PUT THEM ON...PUT THEM ON...PUT THEM ON.....ON...ON...ON...ON....NOW..NOW...NOWWWWWWWWWW....HURRY...HURRY...TEST THEM....MIKE...:thumbup:..PULEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE
 
no more coffee for you mike!!!!:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:
 
BLUEKNIGHT911 said:
RON are you adding these items to your list of products yet or still testing....Have you firmed up pricing ??....Mike...:thumbup:
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It doen't look like I'm going to get the chance to test these EBC rotors and pads. I had 3 sets and it looks like all 3 are sold. I'm not making any claims at this point other then passing along what EBC says about these components.

I do have 1 set left but I believe a Spyderlover is going to purchase them. If not I'll put them on my Spyder.

One set went to Doc (as you can see) so we should get good feedback from him.

At this point, unless I get several orders, enough for a direct shipment from the EBC factory, it will be the middle of next month before I can get more of these. As always, I'm selling these as cheaply as I can. Rotors $139 each, front pads $47.95 each (you'll need 2 sets) and Rear Pads $35.95 each (only 1 set needed, of course).
 
docdoru said:
Got the package :yes::yes::yes::

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That's great Doc! Can't wait for some feedback. There is a bedding in process so I hope you can give that a try.

Interesting slots in these rotors. EBC says the holes are for cooling (which we know) and the slots help keep the pads free of debris which can cause squeeking noise. I sure hope they are right!

Thanks for being a Guinea Pig on this one!
 
They are Back!

The High Performance EBC brake rotors and Semi-Sintered pads are back in stock. I've ordered several sets of the pads but there is only 1 set of rotors in stock. I've ordered the rotors for my Spyder but if someone wants them let me know (before I install them, of course ;)).

I do not know when more of the rotor sets will be coming in.

Pricing has gone up a bit but still much less than OEM BRP components.

Front Pads - $46.50 (You need 2 sets)
Rear Pads - $35.95

Front Rotors - $143.95 (You need 2)
Rear Rotor - $143.95
 
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feedback please

The dreaded squeal is haunting me again.:banghead: The fix lasted for less than 200 miles. :mad: Now when I back out you can hear me a few doors down. What is the verdict on the EBC pads and rotors. Can I just replace the pads and get rid of the noise?
 
MMcc said:
The dreaded squeal is haunting me again.:banghead: The fix lasted for less than 200 miles. :mad: Now when I back out you can hear me a few doors down. What is the verdict on the EBC pads and rotors. Can I just replace the pads and get rid of the noise?
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I have not gotten enough feedback from these pads yet to say for sure. So far (with just a few miles) I'm told they are working well and quiet. But honestly, it's too early to tell.

You can get just the pads. I wish at this point we had more miles on them. Doc was one of the first to get a set for his Spyder but I have not heard from him if he's even had time to install them.
 
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