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EBC Rotors
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NiteLife
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BajaRon:
You posted under my thread that you ordered some new Pads?? If so, let us know about any braking Improvements after install.
I'm hoping to improve the stopping ability on mine. Maybe mine is as good as it gets? I have no comparison on anything to go by to know if I should be happy with its current stopping ability.
Seems to me I'm having to press awful hard on the pedal and still getting a kinda "soft mushy fading" stop, If that makes sense to you.
I want my Spyder to stop on a dime if need be. Different Rotors, pads, what ever it takes to get some better stopping power.
Again, maybe I'm expecting stopping power like my Yamaha FZ1 provides. You hit the brakes hard on that, it will almost throw you over the bars, Quick Stop, No Fade!
Most owners here have stated they are happy with the stopping ability of the Spyder. I think it could be a lot better!
Wishful thinking???
Jim
You posted under my thread that you ordered some new Pads?? If so, let us know about any braking Improvements after install.
I'm hoping to improve the stopping ability on mine. Maybe mine is as good as it gets? I have no comparison on anything to go by to know if I should be happy with its current stopping ability.
Seems to me I'm having to press awful hard on the pedal and still getting a kinda "soft mushy fading" stop, If that makes sense to you.
I want my Spyder to stop on a dime if need be. Different Rotors, pads, what ever it takes to get some better stopping power.
Again, maybe I'm expecting stopping power like my Yamaha FZ1 provides. You hit the brakes hard on that, it will almost throw you over the bars, Quick Stop, No Fade!
Most owners here have stated they are happy with the stopping ability of the Spyder. I think it could be a lot better!
Wishful thinking???
Jim
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zrc
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Braking Power / Calibration
I dont know much of anything about braking power or what your situation is like currently, but I can tell you that I purchased my 09 GS from cowtown and since the day I got it, the braking power has been solid, responsive and honestly, it can be too much sometimes. I was in ride and we slowed down, and I pushed a little to hard to fast and it about jerked me off the seat cause it went from 30 to 0 faster than I was expecting, and my GF bonked my helmet with hers and then slapped me on the side.
I would get my braking checked out and investigate the screw adjustment that Randy (Arntufun) mentioned in another post.
I dont know much of anything about braking power or what your situation is like currently, but I can tell you that I purchased my 09 GS from cowtown and since the day I got it, the braking power has been solid, responsive and honestly, it can be too much sometimes. I was in ride and we slowed down, and I pushed a little to hard to fast and it about jerked me off the seat cause it went from 30 to 0 faster than I was expecting, and my GF bonked my helmet with hers and then slapped me on the side.
I would get my braking checked out and investigate the screw adjustment that Randy (Arntufun) mentioned in another post.
BajaRon
Well-known member
The stopping capability of the stock Spyder is impressive. I would be very sure you do not have a system issue before putting money into aftermarket rotors. That being said, the EBC rotors claim to give you 18% more stopping power than stock stainless steel rotors (which is what our Spyders have).
My Spyder does not stop like it used to and I'm not sure why. I know I need pads but that doesn't answer the entire question for me. Pads with a little material should stop as well as pads with a lot of material.
I'm going to try the brand new, non-organic offerings from EBC. I don't think the Organic pads would perform like I want. Typically, even the best organic pads are not going to stop you like the OEM semi-metalic. I'm also thinking about putting the EBC rotors on as well. I'm hoping to find someone that has done it already and get their input first.
I may try them out anyway if I can't find an opinion here.
We carry the EBC line of products so if I'm impressed I may be offering a high performance EBC Rotor & Pads set to Spyderlovers here. If I can get them at a good price they should be about the same price as the OEM parts and will certainly outperform the OEM components.
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arntufun
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I would love to have an updated review of these pads. The cost of these pads alone is a reason to give these pads a look. If they don't squeal like the 08's did, I would use them. :thumbup:
BajaRon
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As far as I know, no one here has tried the new pads from EBC (though some have used their Organic pads with mixed reviews). I am positive the new compound will stop better but will they squeek? That is the question.
I'm sure the EBC rotors will work better as well. Enough better to notice / be worth the cost? Another question mark. I think I'm about to find out though.
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BajaRon
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I agree. The BRP parts fisch shows $225 (I'm assuming + shipping and + tax). That is the price for just 1 front rotor! Ouch! The superior EBC rotor set of 2 would be less than $300.00 delivered.
A set of current BRP pads for the front are $115 according to the fisch. I should be able to supply the new design pads for about $95.00 delivered to US customers.
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arntufun
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I wish this thread was a week sooner. I just ordered the fronts and rear pads from BRP 3 days ago. :banghead:
BajaRon
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If they have not yet shipped cancel them. I'll give you a good deal on a set and you can be my extended R&D!
Between the 2 of us we should be able to figure out if they work well or not.
:agree: Also thin [worn] pads will generate much more heat, glaze and reduce stopping power.
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BajaRon
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I'm not going to say that BRP didn't use premium materials, but I would say it's a rare manufacturer that does with every part. Cost would exceed benefit. But point well taken. Braided lines will always increase hydraulic pressure over regular rubber lines.
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arntufun
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I will call first thing in the morning on Monday and let you know. :thumbup:
BajaRon
Well-known member
Let me know as soon as you can and I'll get these ordered for you (and Doc as well I guess). I hope they have enough left so I can get a set! :banghead:
If you need another guinea pig spyder I have an 09 phantom SM5 with warped front rotors. - Stealership wants WAY to much for rotors for OEM replacements, and thats even with a military discount
docdoru
Doru the Destroyer-Spyder Photo Investigator
...but I can :roflblack::thumbup: How about 3 brake pad generations in 4 years and still no solution for warped rotors? :shocked:
BajaRon
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If you need another guinea pig spyder I have an 09 phantom SM5 with warped front rotors. - Stealership wants WAY to much for rotors for OEM replacements, and thats even with a military discount
PM me here or email me at [email protected] with the email address attached to your Paypal account, or, you can mail payment if you prefer, and we'll get these out to you.
I was hoping to put a set of these rotors on MY Spyder but I'm finding these are hard to come by right now. EBC was not sure how well these would sell so they made only a short initial production run. I can't get any more until the middle of next month.
The pads are in fair supply, a little short on the fronts and plenty of rears.
I think the rotor, new improved pad set are going to work very well. By the time they come back in stock we should know for sure with Doc and you running a set.
For the rotors, I only have one set of fronts left so hopefully your rear rotor is not a problem.
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Firefly
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Hey Doc... I've read a few articles about this and it seems that brake rotors don't really 'warp'.. it's actually buildup on the rotors that causes the surface to be uneven.
http://www.examiner.com/auto-in-orlando/there-s-no-such-thing-as-warped-brake-rotors
Perhaps a good reason not to use the parking brake unless you really really have to.... or at least let things cool down before applying the parking brake......
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