Driving on military base

[LLSailor]

This is worth about two cents, so thought I'd put it in. I ride in to work most days. Clothing requirements are the same as already described, but don't need a sticker to get on post. ID/Driver's license gets me on and off. To get a sticker, I'd have to do the safety course, which they only offer to active duty, but will accept certificates from other courses. Couple Harley dealerships have them around here and Kansas City Kansas Community College. Happy Saturday, thanks for your time and congrats to your son.

 

[Dentin028]

I got no issues my pass to get on base last April/May. I was told that I didn't needed the requierements for motorcycles since I have 3 wheels. I go in uniform from time to time and have no issues and wear my uniform/helmet/gloves. Hubby goes in and out without any issues either. On long trips we have stayed at other bases from different branches and have no issues as long as I have the sticker on the windshield and my ID. It just takes me a little time since the MP at the gate think the spyder is so cool and chit chat.

If you are going without a pass that might be different.

 

[bruiser]

Unless the Commander of said base requires it the Motorcycle Safety Course it is NOT required to get a SPYDER on base. Plug in OPNAVEINST5100.12H into Google and on page 14 you will find the following:

13. Motorcycle Safety Training

a. Initial Training

(1) The purpose of the motorcycle safety training program is to provide motorcycle operators with safe riding skills, knowledge, and techniques.

(2) All military and civilian personnel motorcycle operators must comply with all host nation or state licensing requirements.

(3) All military personnel who operate a motorcycle on/off base, and all DoD civilian personnel who operate a motorcycle on base are required to complete a COMNAVSAFECEN- approved motorcycle rider safety course prior to operating these vehicles. This training will be provided to the above individuals at no cost and they may not be charged leave to attend the training.

(4) Operators of motorcycles with attached sidecars and three-wheeled motorcycles are excluded from COMNAVSAFECEN required motorcycle training. Refer operators to state sponsored courses where available.

This is a Navy/Marine nationwide instruction.

I went thru this 4 years ago in Kings Bay,Ga. The Instructors of the course on base pointed this out to me. He stated that the people at the front gate that do the base access don't read they just see motorcycle and make a production out of it to get a pass. But with instruction in hand they were shown the error of there ways and several phone calls later I was given the pass to get on base. This took about 2 hours to train them and the other SPYDERS that followed on base got there pass with no problem.

It should be noted that each branch has it's own requirements, but the DoD requirement is just that, it applies to all branches. The Air Force does not use stickers anymore. But when I go to Cherry Point MCAS I have to get a base pass even though I have a retired ID. And talking about the folks on the gate not knowing what is required, we went through that recently with the reflective vest requirement. We went in the back gate and were waved through without the vest. When we went through the front gate 45 minutes later we were stopped and told we had to have a vest, when we questioned it they actually called for backup and closed one lane of the gate. 30 minutes later and several different versions of the reg, we were let go, with vests on. The FP cop wouldn't even give me my ID back until I had the vest on. :yikes: We called the base commander and the FP commander and within a very short time we received an apology and all gate personnel were educated. Oh, one more thing, retirees are not required to have the MSF class to ride on base (USAF).

 

[JCSMOKE]

Called the security boys at Lackland and as long as I have the motorcycle endorsement on the license I am good to go! Excellent help as always folks!

 

[ARtraveler]

When I was teaching on Fort Richardson (now joint base Elemendorf/Richardson) I had to have military ID, (drivers license and insurance pre-checked for the military ID), helmet, and flourescent vest. Now, it appears they let them wear a flourescent strap instead of the full vest.

I was on the base teaching, a year ago.

 

[johnwinslow]

i went to Fort Lenard Wood during Spyderfest this year to see my grandson, and had no problem. no vest, gloves, helmet, my gps took me in the back gate and right to his barracks. the base was very nice and fuel was cheap, He is in Hawii now, so i will not take the Spyder there unless someone knows where the bridge is.

 

[Motorcycledave]

Driving on the Base

It's the same for all the armed services yo have to have Helmet, gloves, leather hightop shoes or boots
eye protection, (windshield does not count) insurance, motorcycle drivers lic. (if it's a bike) if it's a trike and
your state requires a motorcycle lic. or Trike lic. then you have to have one. Some military bases have additional rules
such as reflective vest and reflective markings/stripes on your helmet. and ALL require the MSF card. If on a Navy base
contact the Command Master Chief and his office will arrange for you to take the course if you have not do so, Army, Air Force, Marines, and Coast Guard are all similar.
Yea I'm retired Navy,
Dave

 

[wyliec]

Motorcycledave,

Does a face shield on a full face helmet count for eye protection? Or, is that another thing that is base by base?

 

[Boriken]

:congrats: to your son on his graduation and please thank him on my behalf for his service.

 

[JCSMOKE]

:congrats: to your son on his graduation and please thank him on my behalf for his service.

Will do

 

[bruiser]

Motorcycledave,

Does a face shield on a full face helmet count for eye protection? Or, is that another thing that is base by base?

Yes it does, DoD wide.

 

[bruiser]

i went to Fort Lenard Wood during Spyderfest this year to see my grandson, and had no problem. no vest, gloves, helmet, my gps took me in the back gate and right to his barracks. the base was very nice and fuel was cheap, He is in Hawii now, so i will not take the Spyder there unless someone knows where the bridge is.

The gate guard must have been asleep.

 

[bruiser]

When I was teaching on Fort Richardson (now joint base Elemendorf/Richardson) I had to have military ID, (drivers license and insurance pre-checked for the military ID), helmet, and flourescent vest. Now, it appears they let them wear a flourescent strap instead of the full vest.

I was on the base teaching, a year ago.

It depends on the base commander.

 

[CMA Cowboy]

Fort Leonard Wood does not require the reflective vest or belt during day light hours now. You do have to have DOD helmet, long sleeve, long pants, over the ankle footware and eye protection other than a windshield.

 

[bruiser]

The Air Force is the only service that requires retroflouresent reflective upper outer garment both day and night. I just found out that on joint bases, that is USAF/Army only USAF personnel are required to wear the vest. Army is exempt because they come under Army motorcycle regs. :yikes: DoD sets the standards and each service ignores it and sets their own. Ok, not really, but sure seems like it. I'm glad I'm retired.

 

[LLSailor]

The gate guard at Fort Leavenworth today told me that the reflective items are not required during daylight, as I came on post with my bright yellow vest over my long sleeve shirt.

 

[bone crusher]

My wife is active duty army doctor...I have a military ID as her spouse...so, getting on is quite easy (just show that to them) for me. As far as requirements for anything gear goes, I can assure you that they're not enforced.

The security doesn't care what you're wearing (provided you're wearing what's required in the state). All they care about is who you are and do you have permission to be on the base.

I've been on Walter Reed/Bethesda Naval (naval base) multiple times on the Spyder...never an issue at all...I've been in shorts, sneakers, etc... The military has about 500 billion pages of useless requirements for everything...it is unlikely that any security guard at a base has viewed anything motorcycle related...their job is to protect the base, not worry about your garb...

 

[Bob Denman]

Soooo... They ain't the fashion police?? :shocked: :thumbup:

 

[bruiser]

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I've been on Walter Reed/Bethesda Naval (naval base) multiple times on the Spyder...never an issue at all...I've been in shorts, sneakers, etc... The military has about 500 billion pages of useless requirements for everything...it is unlikely that any security guard at a base has viewed anything motorcycle related...their job is to protect the base, not worry about your garb...[/QUOTE]

WOW that's quite a generalized statement and wrong too. Try getting on Ft. Bragg, Seymour Johnson AFB, Cherry Point MCAS, Camp Lejeune MCB, New River Air Station, Langley AFB, Norfolk Navy Base, without the DoD required attire. You won't make it past the gate, spouse of an officer or not. I've ridden with the PGR on military installations and those rules are enforced. By the way, I have a military ID, 20 years in the USAF, and I had to get a 50 state background check, a letter from my company, have valid state drivers license and insurance and a valid vehicle registration just to work on equipment at Cherry Point MCAS. I was told there by the pass and ID folks that my ID didn't count for anything, I had to follow their rules. The bottom line here, comply with the regs set up by the DoD and command be they Army, Navy, what ever. Each base may be different as to their requirments and they'll let you know when you hit the gate. We're:bdh:

 

[bone crusher]

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I've been on Walter Reed/Bethesda Naval (naval base) multiple times on the Spyder...never an issue at all...I've been in shorts, sneakers, etc... The military has about 500 billion pages of useless requirements for everything...it is unlikely that any security guard at a base has viewed anything motorcycle related...their job is to protect the base, not worry about your garb...

WOW that's quite a generalized statement and wrong too. Try getting on Ft. Bragg, Seymour Johnson AFB, Cherry Point MCAS, Camp Lejeune MCB, New River Air Station, Langley AFB, Norfolk Navy Base, without the DoD required attire. You won't make it past the gate, spouse of an officer or not. I've ridden with the PGR on military installations and those rules are enforced. By the way, I have a military ID, 20 years in the USAF, and I had to get a 50 state background check, a letter from my company, have valid state drivers license and insurance and a valid vehicle registration just to work on equipment at Cherry Point MCAS. I was told there by the pass and ID folks that my ID didn't count for anything, I had to follow their rules. The bottom line here, comply with the regs set up by the DoD and command be they Army, Navy, what ever. Each base may be different as to their requirments and they'll let you know when you hit the gate. We're:bdh:[/QUOTE]



Wrong? I've been on Walter Reed (before it closed), Bethesda Naval, Fort Belvoir, Andrews, etc...I don't think we need to compare base numbers here...I have more to list... Maybe I just look better? :yes: I've never had to show anything other than a military ID...and that is the way all the bases are going anyway...new info from DOD on that.

I think you could call the base and they'd give you a whole list of things but I don't think the people at the gates know that information and they're more concerned about the safety of the base than pulling you and your spyder aside to make sure your socks are the proper length. Being they are going away from base stickers, I think they're gonna be sticking to the basics as that is what will keep the bases safe...

BTW, thank you for your 20 years in the USAF...