DoseYDoes, Error Codes & Limp Modes

[OJ UK]

Time to lighten up & chill out!

You know I read these "doom and gloom" posts and I'm always concerned that someone will be marooned miles from anywhere.
Then I ask myself
"What is the worst thing, and the most likely thing that will get me phoning for help?"
It isn't the DESS code thing or the Engine Check light or Fire and Flood......a bad puncture in the rear tyre does it for me.
It's mundane and can happen on any vehicle no matter how much it cost but it will leave you at the side of the road waiting
for rescue.
And yes, I carry a repair kit and pump on longer journeys but I'm seriously considering using this sealing product this year:
http://www.ultraseal-swiftlysorted.co.uk

 

[Bob Denman]

You know I read these "doom and gloom" posts and I'm always concerned that someone will be marooned miles from anywhere.
Then I ask myself
"What is the worst thing, and the most likely thing that will get me phoning for help?"
It isn't the DESS code thing or the Engine Check light or Fire and Flood......a bad puncture in the rear tyre does it for me.
It's mundane and can happen on any vehicle no matter how much it cost but it will leave you at the side of the road waiting
for rescue.
And yes, I carry a repair kit and pump on longer journeys but I'm seriously considering using this sealing product this year:
http://www.ultraseal-swiftlysorted.co.uk

:clap: And Geoff was raised around Lucas electrical systems: He probably knows more about dealing with adversity, than the rest of us combined! :bowdown:

 

[OJ UK]

:clap: And Geoff was raised around Lucas electrical systems: He probably knows more about dealing with adversity, than the rest of us combined! :bowdown:

Ah yes! Lucas...Prince of Darkness! If there was an award for overpriced poorly designed crap they would have taken it!! Mind you: Miller wasn't a whole lot better!

 

[Bob Denman]

 

[Bob Denman]

Nor did I...

...But it's a fun, "diversionary topic"! :roflblack:

 

[oldgoat]

Ah yes! Lucas...Prince of Darkness! If there was an award for overpriced poorly designed crap they would have taken it!! Mind you: Miller wasn't a whole lot better!

You got that right about Miller. IMO worse than Lucas. I had to put a detachable plug into the wire from the generator on my 1948 Velocette 350 MAC because when the engine was shut off the current went from the battery to the generator. I wasn't as knowledgeable then as I think I am now, so didn't fix it. Sold it for an Ariel Leader.

 

[oldgoat]

I think the Spyderdom is separated into two distinct camps with maybe a few that sort of hang out on fringes of the two camps.
One camp is comprised of Ryders who are genuinely worried that some kind of error code is going to befall their ryde.

The other camp is comprised of Ryders who don't think about or have some understanding of what it means and realize that the event does not signal the end of the world.

I would put myself in camp #3.

I worry all the time I'm out on the Spyder that a dreaded code will appear & I will initially go into panic mode.

However, camp 2 will eventually kick in & I will set about diagnosing the problem. I consider myself competent to deal with most things when in my garage but it had better not be too serious when I'm several days from home.

My bro is coming over from the UK in a week & we are going away for a week, me on the Spyder + trailer loaded with every tool & part I have & him on my '04 Honda Aero VT750. I will take nothing for that.

My stomach is in knots worrying about what "might happen" & I blame all of you on here who report all sorts of problems that I could have, but haven't had so far in 15,000 miles. GRRRRR. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[spyderCodes]

I would put myself in camp #3.

I worry all the time I'm out on the Spyder that a dreaded code will appear & I will initially go into panic mode.

However, camp 2 will eventually kick in & I will set about diagnosing the problem. I consider myself competent to deal with most things when in my garage but it had better not be too serious when I'm several days from home.

My bro is coming over from the UK in a week & we are going away for a week, me on the Spyder + trailer loaded with every tool & part I have & him on my '04 Honda Aero VT750. I will take nothing for that.

My stomach is in knots worrying about what "might happen" & I blame all of you on here who report all sorts of problems that I could have, but haven't had so far in 15,000 miles. GRRRRR. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Camp#4 is the group of people who never ryde their Spyder but once an hour they go to the garage start it and check for codes.
Not finding any they say, "Well it worked THAT time, but probably won't next time."
Repeat.

 

[oldgoat]

Definitely not camp #4

 

[Spyder2012]

Lots Of Good Thoughts Here

I think the unrest that many feel with the Spyders is due to all the "black box" items. They are highly computerized, and, at times a bit confusing.
I still wish there were some way to clear the dreaded "check engine" after I have been able to remove the code from the bike. I have done a couple of things which may, or may not solve my problem, but, I would like to know when/if it occurs again instead of dealing with the constant orange warnings.
Until I can turn the check engine thing off, I will not know until I stop and check for error codes if there has been another occurrence.

Not trying to "fool" the system, just think I am being over-warned! LOL

 

[Border Rider]

Border Rider

[QTUOTE=oldguyinCT;1141860]And a pissing match is always fun.

[/QUOTE]
That guy is a Vermonter and we like a good pissing match.

 

[spyderCodes]

I think the unrest that many feel with the Spyders is due to all the "black box" items. They are highly computerized, and, at times a bit confusing.
I still wish there were some way to clear the dreaded "check engine" after I have been able to remove the code from the bike. I have done a couple of things which may, or may not solve my problem, but, I would like to know when/if it occurs again instead of dealing with the constant orange warnings.
Until I can turn the check engine thing off, I will not know until I stop and check for error codes if there has been another occurrence.

Not trying to "fool" the system, just think I am being over-warned! LOL

Maybe so.
But something that is often overlooked.
Once the fault is no longer present, it is archived and then not technically "cleared" it becomes inactive.
The Check Engine light should go out.

 

[spyderCodes]

Someone recently lamented that they had lost control of the thread.
At the time I really didn't have much empathy.

You launch a thread with some intent and then watch as it turns into something else.
Sometimes it goes well.
Other times not so well.

And yes, sometimes as the OP you feel compelled to jump in and of course that is always a mistake.

So another idea gone bad.
Lesson learned.
....
probably.

 

[Bob Denman]

Camp#4 is the group of people who never ryde their Spyder but once an hour they go to the garage start it and check for codes.
Not finding any they say, "Well it worked THAT time, but probably won't next time."
Repeat.

I heard that the Camp #4 folks, are getting patches made for their vests...

 

[JKMSPYDER]

WHAT ME WORRY?

I rode my '13 ST-S for 25,000 miles before I traded it for a '15 F3-S in January. I rode it to Texas on one trip, Spyderfest on another trip, and Deadwood, SD on another long trip. No limp mode on any of those trips. I did get the orange screen and check engine light in Wall, SD after I had parked on an asphalt parking lot for over an hour with the temp in the high 80's. Once I rode onto the freeway to get some air flowing, the screen and light disappeared. So far no problems with my F3-S with 5,000 miles on it and I'm riding back to Deadwood next month. Either I am lucky or this is the norm for the vast majority of Spyders. I think I'm in the vast majority.

 

[spyderCodes]

I rode my '13 ST-S for 25,000 miles before I traded it for a '15 F3-S in January. I rode it to Texas on one trip, Spyderfest on another trip, and Deadwood, SD on another long trip. No limp mode on any of those trips. I did get the orange screen and check engine light in Wall, SD after I had parked on an asphalt parking lot for over an hour with the temp in the high 80's. Once I rode onto the freeway to get some air flowing, the screen and light disappeared. So far no problems with my F3-S with 5,000 miles on it and I'm riding back to Deadwood next month. Either I am lucky or this is the norm for the vast majority of Spyders. I think I'm in the vast majority.

You are part of the silent majority that simply enjoy the Spyder.

 

[AeroPilot]

Enjoying the riding too much to worry about the what ifs

Yes these Spyders are somewhat complex and the myriad of codes that may? occur can be daunting, but still a great experience. Of the various rides and brands each has served well and for the "miles of smiles" the Spyder allows the wife and I to continue a most enjoyable pastime. I appreciate the ability to share information and experiences on this forum and likewise value the communication in all its forms. I hope to continue to winnow all communication and gain what I can from everyones' posts.

As I look back, the "flashing check engine light" may be a disturbing sight, and I still cringe when I see an orange screen after dark, or when I leave a hatch open, but these all communicate and communication is always good in my book.

With over 150,000 miles enjoyed on bikes (2/3 on Spyders) the three times I was left walking were 1) out of fuel on a Yamaha- my fault, 2) flat tire on a Honda- maybe my fault as it was getting thin 3) fuel delivery issue on a Harley - one of those things. Like most cars and bikes these days, clean oil and new rubber and a look over can allow us to have many great experiences:thumbup:

 

[BamaJohn]

Default DoseYDoes,

I'm old enough to know that the lyrics go like this:
"Does eat oats, and mares eat oats....but little lambs eat ivy...." :shemademe_smilie:

Ok, I'm ready for the ridicule heading my way...jb

 

[spyderCodes]

I'm old enough to know that the lyrics go like this:
"Does eat oats, and mares eat oats....but little lambs eat ivy...." :shemademe_smilie:

Ok, I'm ready for the ridicule heading my way...jb

You are correct but the DoseYDoe I was thinking of was the Square Dance call.

 

[BamaJohn]

FUN

You are correct but the DoseYDoe I was thinking of was the Square Dance call.

I like your thread...keep 'em coming....fun is a great part of spyder life!
I'm on my second spyder and know that ALL motorized vehicles are complicated, computer-driven machines these days. I just keep on loving the wind and country fragrances as I pass thru them.

jb