Does this tire look bad

[ARtraveler]

FlyBoy, I disagree. I would call this the classic kenda normal everyday wear pattern for rear tireitess.

I keep my rear tires inflated at 26#. They give me longer mileage that way. I average 15K with the rear Krapenda's. But who am I anyway. :bowdown: :roflblack:

 

[FlyBoy2121]

The the Krapenda's: is a new kind of tire ??? :roflblack: :yes:

FlyBoy2121:thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

The the Krapenda's: is a new kind of tire ??? :roflblack: :yes:

FlyBoy2121:thumbup:

A site nickname for the OEM "Kenda."

 

[FlyBoy2121]

I ARtraveler

I understood everything, I have kenda Kanine on my Spyder RTL :thumbup:

FlyBoy2121

 

[ARtraveler]

I ARtraveler

I understood everything, I have kenda Kanine on my Spyder RTL :thumbup:

FlyBoy2121

Me too on the 2019

 

[Bfromla]

Does this tire look like it needs to be replaced?

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Yokohama

at 23,590m 28-30psi, yes gonna replace & gonna try getting every mile it can giveopcorn:

 

[Peter Aawen]

Yokohama
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at 23,590m 28-30psi, yes gonna replace & gonna try getting every mile it can giveopcorn:

Jeez Bfromla, 23,590miles from that tire run at 28-30 psi! :shocked: . Just imagine how many miles you'd likely get if you ran it at 20 psi, or better yet, maybe even 18?? :dontknow:

Apart from a few odd thousand kms or so each on a number of various test tires, I'm really only onto the THIRD rear tire under my 2013 RT - less than 5000 km of relatively gentle ryding from the OE Spec Kenda . over 35,000 km from a Kumho run at 16-18psi that was retired still with good tread depth before an upcoming 10,000km trip . and I'm now well past that many km on the current Michelin running at (mostly) 16 psi and it still looks almost new! hyea:

Just Sayin' :thumbup:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

It's so maddening to know that BRP is so purposely penny pinching and careless as to turn out a product to the public that could produce a catastrophic failure in such a short amount of ownership time.

It's not entirely BRP's fault. The US Federal regulations require a tire be identified and certified for use on a specific class of vehicles. When the Spyder was brought out no tire company had, and probably was not willing, to certify their tires as suitable for use on a Spyder. Kenda apparently was, and for all we know, may have been the only one, to develop a tire and certify it specifically for the Spyder. That's why you see "Special Motorcycle Use Only" on the side of the Kendas.

Although it has not been made known as far as I know, a Michelin or Bridgestone tire engineer quite possibly would be reluctant to give their endorsement to using one of their car tires on a Spyder. Car tires are simply designed to carry a heavier load than a Spyder, and we as owners have no way of knowing, other than usage experience, how well they work on a Spyder. For all we know, the Spyder may be so far out of the design parameters for a car tire as to theoretically make it unsafe. But in spite of all my reservations about the suitability of a car tire on the Spyder, they are what I use!

 

[gkamer]

I ARtraveler

I understood everything, I have kenda Kanine on my Spyder RTL :thumbup:

FlyBoy2121

Is that a better tire then the "standard" Kendas?

 

[2dogs]

It's not entirely BRP's fault. The US Federal regulations require a tire be identified and certified for use on a specific class of vehicles. When the Spyder was brought out no tire company had, and probably was not willing, to certify their tires as suitable for use on a Spyder. Kenda apparently was, and for all we know, may have been the only one, to develop a tire and certify it specifically for the Spyder. That's why you see "Special Motorcycle Use Only" on the side of the Kendas.

Although it has not been made known as far as I know, a Michelin or Bridgestone tire engineer quite possibly would be reluctant to give their endorsement to using one of their car tires on a Spyder. Car tires are simply designed to carry a heavier load than a Spyder, and we as owners have no way of knowing, other than usage experience, how well they work on a Spyder. For all we know, the Spyder may be so far out of the design parameters for a car tire as to theoretically make it unsafe. But in spite of all my reservations about the suitability of a car tire on the Spyder, they are what I use!

Very good Idaho. It seems that just about everything nowadays is liability driven.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

It's not entirely BRP's fault. The US Federal regulations require a tire be identified and certified for use on a specific class of vehicles. When the Spyder was brought out no tire company had, and probably was not willing, to certify their tires as suitable for use on a Spyder. Kenda apparently was, and for all we know, may have been the only one, to develop a tire and certify it specifically for the Spyder. That's why you see "Special Motorcycle Use Only" on the side of the Kendas.

Although it has not been made known as far as I know, a Michelin or Bridgestone tire engineer quite possibly would be reluctant to give their endorsement to using one of their car tires on a Spyder. Car tires are simply designed to carry a heavier load than a Spyder, and we as owners have no way of knowing, other than usage experience, how well they work on a Spyder. For all we know, the Spyder may be so far out of the design parameters for a car tire as to theoretically make it unsafe. But in spite of all my reservations about the suitability of a car tire on the Spyder, they are what I use!

Idaho, you and I have been on this road a few times ..... last I checked Harley Davidson is still using " AUTO " tires on their Trikes and they are NOT marked as having anything to do with Motorcycles. I've been told here ( by you ) that maybe / possibly HD because it has a long time relationship with " Dunlop " and that's why they are or can use them ..... I say regs are regs - PERIOD ..... Mike :thumbup:

 

[ks4hcoach]

Posted by gkamer "Does this tire look like it needs to be replaced?"

Yes it does! Stock Kenda rear tires wear MUCH more quickly in the center, while the edges have little to no wear. I have seen this on the 2009 GS and now, with the stock Kenda on my 1 year old, 8000 mile 2021 RTL that show more wear in the center than yours does. I have run it at 22-23 psi since day one thinking that reduced pressure would minimize the very rapid center wear from the stock rear tire with its weak, unstable carcass. No luck there as it is beyond shot. Note that much of my riding is on rural chip and seal roads, which are much more abrasive with respect to tire wear than good pavement or asphalt. Have the same observations on my motorcyles tire wear, but that's where I do most of my riding.
Note that I have a new Vredestein Quatrac (and fronts too) on hand to install. Bought them late last year before the supply dried up, but my J&S jack, that I already have the Can Am Spyder lift adapter for, is still on backorder...I'm close to picking up the rear with either a scissors jack or a hydraulic floor jack if the J&S doesn't show up soon.
Note that I have removed and changed the rear tire on my 2009 GS twice. First with a Yokahama S-drive, and now with the now discontinued Vredestein Quatrac 5. The Q5, in my opinion, is a much better tire for the Spyder, especially in wet and/or cold conditions. Don't have too many miles on the Q5 to know how long it will last. The Yokahama S-drive went about 12K, vs 10K on the stock Kenda, but wore much more evenly across the tread.
Now to tackle the much heavier RTL with all the plastic and the one piece rear wheel. Changing and balancing the tire will be the easy part, I suspect, as my NoMar tire changer and Marc Parnes balancer works great...Now if that J&S jack would finally get here.
In the meantime, it would be nice if CanAm would spec out a better rear tire with a more stable carcass. There is no excuse today for a tire that always wears so unevenly, on a wheel that is always flat on the road surface, mounted on a swingarm no less.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Posted by gkamer "Does this tire look like it needs to be replaced?"

Yes it does! Stock Kenda rear tires wear MUCH more quickly in the center, while the edges have little to no wear. I have seen this on the 2009 GS and now, with the stock Kenda on my 1 year old, 8000 mile 2021 RTL that show more wear in the center than yours does. I have run it at 22-23 psi since day one thinking that reduced pressure would minimize the very rapid center wear from the stock rear tire with its weak, unstable carcass. No luck there as it is beyond shot. Note that much of my riding is on rural chip and seal roads, which are much more abrasive with respect to tire wear than good pavement or asphalt. Have the same observations on my motorcyles tire wear, but that's where I do most of my riding.
Note that I have a new Vredestein Quatrac (and fronts too) on hand to install. Bought them late last year before the supply dried up, but my J&S jack, that I already have the Can Am Spyder lift adapter for, is still on backorder...I'm close to picking up the rear with either a scissors jack or a hydraulic floor jack if the J&S doesn't show up soon.
Note that I have removed and changed the rear tire on my 2009 GS twice. First with a Yokahama S-drive, and now with the now discontinued Vredestein Quatrac 5. The Q5, in my opinion, is a much better tire for the Spyder, especially in wet and/or cold conditions. Don't have too many miles on the Q5 to know how long it will last. The Yokahama S-drive went about 12K, vs 10K on the stock Kenda, but wore much more evenly across the tread.
Now to tackle the much heavier RTL with all the plastic and the one piece rear wheel. Changing and balancing the tire will be the easy part, I suspect, as my NoMar tire changer and Marc Parnes balancer works great...Now if that J&S jack would finally get here.
In the meantime, it would be nice if CanAm would spec out a better rear tire with a more stable carcass. There is no excuse today for a tire that always wears so unevenly, on a wheel that is always flat on the road surface, mounted on a swingarm no less.

Peter and I have been saying and posting this information for years now ..... glad you agree :clap: .... I don't know if you've read any of the dozens of posts we've made, if you haven't here's some thing we've learned .... Kenda Spyder tires will balloon at speeds over about 35 mph; they are weakly made and the larger width of the rear tire compounds this ...That's WHY they wear in the middle at very low miles .... Don't bother balancing the rear, auto tires are made to a higher standard than the Kenda's. .... don't be surprised if the Q-5's, on the front, don't take much weight .... and lastly we have found that 15-17 psi for fronts and 18-19 psi for rear is all it takes for an excellent ride ..... enjoy them .... Mike :thumbup: