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Does the new 2020 RT Limited need Baja Ron bar?

Yes. It's better than a pre-2020 without the bar, but when I bought my 2020 the first thing I noticed about the ride was that it just wasn't as solid as I was used to, and the bar made all the difference.
 
I agree with the others. When I brought my 21 RTL home from the dealer it was on a two lane state route. Even something as simple as a truck passing by while both of us at speed you feel the Spyder get a bit wobbly on the front end. Not that is something of a major concern just an annoyance after 20 time during the ride. After about 500 miles I put on the Sway bar and I can tell you I don't even feel it now. It was night and day difference for me.

I would recommend one thing if doing this yourself. You have to get the front end up kinda high to get the old bar out and the new bar in. Its about 2 feet. If you have never lifted your Spyder that high its not the most balanced thing in the world. I used my bed ramps on the Truck and drove up on that to get my front end up high enough and stable. Made the job a lot easier.
 
From what I've read here, there's a world of improvements to the handling of the 20+ compared to older models. If you're on a 16, you may find the 20 just fine for your style. I'm a spirited rider/ryder so I needed the Bajaron to better control my stupidity.
 
I am sure the 2020-21 would benefit from better front tires also, like the earlier model years. I did it in two stages, Federal Formoza AZ01's and a couple weeks later the BajaRon's sway bar.
 
Had one on my 11 had one on my 14. ordered one for my 20 before i got the bike and sent it back. Unless you are a racer don't kid yourself. You don't need it.
 
I rode my 2020 for about 6 months with the stock suspension.
BRP has, at long last, pretty much caught up with the aftermarket suspension improvements either by changing components, or geometry.
I wasn't disappointed with the stock set up, I'm not racing or pushing the envelope anymore.
Nevertheless, BRP still uses those same crappy plastic heim links. I wanted to replace them with Ron's more reliable metal ones.
So, I fell into the "might as well as". As long as I was replacing the links, I might as well replace the sway bar.
I haven't noticed much of a difference, but as I said, I'm not an aggressive rider.
So you should replace the crappy plastic links, and for a few dollars more, replace the bar, but, in my view, you are upgrading the reliability of the suspension parts, not necessarily a big boost in performance.
 
Thanks Everyone! I'm gonna see if i can get the salesman to install it before they deliver.

You can have Ron ship the sway bar directly to the dealership. In2014 I did that and the dealership charged $82 labor for installation. You should also ask if they have the Rolo laser alignment system and if they do, ask them to check the alignment and correct it if necessary; shouldn't cost more than $150 max and really more like $125.
 
My experience in comparing a 2014 with a bar to a 2020 without one is that the 2014 with a bar is a much more stable ride. I don't think you need to be a speed demon at all - you'll easily feel the difference on the curves, even at the speed limit.

Does it NEED the bar - none of them NEED the bar, but it's the best value of any suspension related enhancement I can think of.
 
My 2013 felt really unstable on the freeway...a little scary at times. I bought the BajaRon bar and installed and it made all the difference in the world. The bike stays firmly planted now at freeway speed. Would not have thought it could improve the ride that much, but I was surprised. Can’t speak for the 2020.
 
I had a 2018 RT Limited and now have a 2021 RT base model. I'd say the current generation doesn't need a BajaRon sway bar nearly as much as the previous generation but it DOES make a difference.
 
My 2013 felt really unstable on the freeway...a little scary at times. I bought the BajaRon bar and installed and it made all the difference in the world. The bike stays firmly planted now at freeway speed. Would not have thought it could improve the ride that much, but I was surprised. Can’t speak for the 2020.

I also bought a 2013 ST-S for Peggy. I rode it back from Beatrice, Nebraska, a distance of around 150 miles. It was rock steady on the interstate, in
fact I found myself regularly exceeding 75 mph. It had 4200 miles and stone stock. It would appear that yours may be out of alignment...maybe.

However I disliked the amount of body lean when cornering after we got it home and I was playing around with it. The BajaRon anti-sway bar basically
did away with any body lean. It didn't need any help with the straight-line riding, but certainly did wonders with the cornering. As far as a new model...
 
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