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Does Eco mode really make a difference?

I have kind of a related question. I ride with some other Spyder owners that will drive miles out of their way to make sure they are using 90 octane gas.. I personally have tried both 90 and 87 and do not see one MPG difference. wonder what others think on this?
BIG F

Your thinking is right on. :2thumbs: Any difference is noted only by a few "experts," of which I am NOT. :bowdown:
 
I have kind of a related question. I ride with some other Spyder owners that will drive miles out of their way to make sure they are using 90 octane gas.. I personally have tried both 90 and 87 and do not see one MPG difference. wonder what others think on this?
BIG F

There's a difference though, however slight. I carry a small bottle of octane boost in case I can't locate 91. ECU flash requires 91. It only takes .2 or .4 oz. to bring 87 up to 91. Saves time, money and worry.
 
Shawn Smoak in one of his videos says not to use Eco mode. He says he can tell by when someone's used Eco Mode by the nasty condition of the oil during oil changes. He talks about it starting at 7:55 on this video. https://youtu.be/p3Gyqeeq_ec

As far as fuel type I use 91 in my Mustang GT and in my Vulcan 1700. I use 89 in my Yukon and I will go against the grain by following the Spyder user manual shown below (for now).

In the end, it's like tire types, tire pressures, oil and filter types... what ever works for you.

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Not fer nuttin but they also recommend all service be done by them and only use BRP oil or Kenda tires. I take that with a grain of salt.
I worked in Tech suprt my entire career and the USERS knew more about the products than the pencil-necked engineers on how to keep the thing working.
 
N my entire career and the USERS knew more about the products than the pencil-necked engineers

I agree. Lots of folks try various things on their machines and come-up with well researched and tested facts. The more people try the same stuff and come-up with the same results, the more convincing their results become. For example, on this forum, many folks have used the same tires with some excellent results. This is where I'm going to go to select my tires when the time come. An what about that BajaRon bar that the way to go for sure.

For what it's worth, I have been using synthetic oil in all my gas powered vehicles and equipment. I have also used 91 octane in most of my vehicle and equipment also. I can't remember the last decade when I last had a mechanical issue with anything. The plugs in all my vehicles and equipment have always been nice and clean and so have the pistons and valves. hardly ever seen carbon buildup on anything.

I currently don't know anything about Spyders, so I'm counting on all you guys to steer me in the right direction.;)
 
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Shawn Smoak in one of his videos says not to use Eco mode. He says he can tell by when someone's used Eco Mode by the nasty condition of the oil during oil changes. He talks about it starting at 7:55 on this video. https://youtu.be/p3Gyqeeq_ec

Looking at oil when it's changed is just that, looks. One can't tell crap about how the oil performed without analysis. Shawn Smoak's a very knowledgeable guy but sometimes doesn't know when to shut up.
 
Being relatively new to my Spyder bought new last summer, I thought it odd that I need to press the Eco Mode button to start the bike, but I've gotten used to it. For the most part I leave it in Eco Mode and I like seeing the arrow indicating when to upshift for best mpg, even if I ignore it much of the time. But I wonder how much difference it really makes to ride in Eco Mode versus not using this feature. I also own a Mini Cooper S which has a "Green mode" button, which wants you to upshift noticeably sooner than in regular mode, but the actual mpg doesn't seem to change at all, so I wondered if the same was true for the Spyder.

I hear you !

Think of those magazine reviews comparing 1/4 mile times between the new superbikes.
The winner can make the run in 0.02 seconds faster.
If I tried it, I'd lose 2 seconds in miss shifting.
It's the same with ECO mode.
There is, on some level, a technical difference in throttle response and torque curve that will give you better gas mileage.
For a technical rider, you might see the difference.
On a practical level, I haven't seen much difference at all.
In fact, keeping an eye out for the little green leaf indicator is distracting and can be a hazard.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong. And if I am, I'm sure there will be plenty of people on this site to help point it out my error.
 
I hear you !

Think of those magazine reviews comparing 1/4 mile times between the new superbikes.
The winner can make the run in 0.02 seconds faster.
If I tried it, I'd lose 2 seconds in miss shifting.
It's the same with ECO mode.
There is, on some level, a technical difference in throttle response and torque curve that will give you better gas mileage.
For a technical rider, you might see the difference.
On a practical level, I haven't seen much difference at all.
In fact, keeping an eye out for the little green leaf indicator is distracting and can be a hazard.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong. And if I am, I'm sure there will be plenty of people on this site to help point it out my error.

You are not wrong. You are in fact correct. Now we'll both catch it. Didn't want to see you take it all alone.:thumbup:
 
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