8 Legged Freak
RT-S PE-0399
IMHO, I get a better ride at 17 psi than 14 psi.
just my opin. :chat:
just my opin. :chat:
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Disappointment
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NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I would not recommend 14 psi. It is less than the minimum pressure listed on the tire sidewall.
reconspyder
RT-S PE#0230
Ditto!!!!!
I couldn't agree more with Nancy's toy!! I have RT-S #230 and it for lack of a better word is very dissapointing!! Anyone want to buy an RT limited?
I couldn't agree more with Nancy's toy!! I have RT-S #230 and it for lack of a better word is very dissapointing!! Anyone want to buy an RT limited?
ThreeWheels
Active member
I know, but it's also a car tire, and the RT weight is so little compared to a car.
I'm not saying 14 is the right number, just that there is room for optimizing the tire pressure. The main point is, I'm now looking at tire pressure instead of mechanical adjustments to the suspension.
On the other hand, I just came back from a two-up ride, with the tires still at 17, it was a wonderful thing.
So I just need to hone in on the right tire pressure, if I'm not there already.
Of course, if I used Nitrogen, then all my tire problems would go away..............................................
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jedd
New member
Scotty, just read the whole thread and thinking of quality control. BRP has had issues with this on and off for years in sleds then watercraft. It got much better in the turn of the century if memory serves me right, a man named Pierre was CEO at that time and return to quality was his mission. Now BRP has re-organized again in recent history with the splitting of the company, and quality, fit and finish in all BRP products is suffering again I hear horror stories from both sled and watercraft owners. My point is I've seen this cycle before, and with excellent posts like yours, and the help of great people who care like Carlo, I am hopeful BRP will make needed changes to be a World Class Manufacturer of recreational products once again. Very best of luck to you and hope your:spyder2:is repaired expeditiously.
Jim:thumbup:
Jim:thumbup:
BajaRon
Well-known member
BajaRon
Well-known member
Wow Scotty! I'm really sorry to hear this. It has to be 'Luck of the Draw'.
The only personal experience I've had with the RT is Lamont's but many seem to be very happy with theirs.
I can tell you Lamont rides his hard and has not complained about handling (other than the stock front shock setting which he detested). He maxed out the front shocks right after he got it and that seemed to work pretty well for him.
I'm sure everyone understands that the RT is not going to handle as well as the RS. Still, it should hold the road pretty well.
Now Lamont is running the Elka's and that gave him even more improvement. But you shouldn't have to install racing shocks to get reasonable handling from the RT.
Your tech's advise of "never start it unless you are going to ride it", and to "carry extra plugs" is ludicrous! How to these people say things like this with a straight face? I haven’t had to follow this advise since I owned a 1970 Kawasaki 500 triple! And that was a carburated 2 stroke! Give me a break!
I think the suggestion that they changed only the offending plug may be accurate and that is what caused the repeat issue. A 2010, fuel injected machine should NOT have plug fouling issues.
I would say the gauges, panel lights, handling and fouling are all correctable issues. With many RT owners being happy with handling it must be something out of sorts with yours.
The paint quality is another matter but it wouldn’t hurt to pursue that as well. Either a repaint or maybe some money back so you can get it painted would be in order.
You paid for a new, well made machine. It is up to BRP to deliver the promised product. I wish it were as simple as that.
I agree with you on the potential of the RT. If you can get it right (or even close) it should be a very sweet ride.
The only personal experience I've had with the RT is Lamont's but many seem to be very happy with theirs.
I can tell you Lamont rides his hard and has not complained about handling (other than the stock front shock setting which he detested). He maxed out the front shocks right after he got it and that seemed to work pretty well for him.
I'm sure everyone understands that the RT is not going to handle as well as the RS. Still, it should hold the road pretty well.
Now Lamont is running the Elka's and that gave him even more improvement. But you shouldn't have to install racing shocks to get reasonable handling from the RT.
Your tech's advise of "never start it unless you are going to ride it", and to "carry extra plugs" is ludicrous! How to these people say things like this with a straight face? I haven’t had to follow this advise since I owned a 1970 Kawasaki 500 triple! And that was a carburated 2 stroke! Give me a break!
I think the suggestion that they changed only the offending plug may be accurate and that is what caused the repeat issue. A 2010, fuel injected machine should NOT have plug fouling issues.
I would say the gauges, panel lights, handling and fouling are all correctable issues. With many RT owners being happy with handling it must be something out of sorts with yours.
The paint quality is another matter but it wouldn’t hurt to pursue that as well. Either a repaint or maybe some money back so you can get it painted would be in order.
You paid for a new, well made machine. It is up to BRP to deliver the promised product. I wish it were as simple as that.
I agree with you on the potential of the RT. If you can get it right (or even close) it should be a very sweet ride.
Nancy toy I am not sure if anyone mentioned this as this thread is very long. There is a new Part out for the GAS GAUAGE issue. I had the problem with my demo and a few customers. but all are fixed and working great. Have your dealer call Tech support and they will give them the new part number. Very easy fix. Not sure about your other issues seems like you have done everything to try to fix it. Just have not experienced that at all with the few I have driven.
SPYDERGUY1
New member
dissapointment
last weekend during my first 315km ride WHOOOOO HOOOOO, I actually ran into a new rt/rs owner, sorry not sure which. His concerns were exactly whay you folk are posting. He claims way too much wobble on the highway due to the bags and exteremely decreased cornering on this unit, he was having a bad day so did not want to press the issue. I have yet to take a test blast on the new unit , however will advise my findings in the next couple of weeks.:dontknow:
last weekend during my first 315km ride WHOOOOO HOOOOO, I actually ran into a new rt/rs owner, sorry not sure which. His concerns were exactly whay you folk are posting. He claims way too much wobble on the highway due to the bags and exteremely decreased cornering on this unit, he was having a bad day so did not want to press the issue. I have yet to take a test blast on the new unit , however will advise my findings in the next couple of weeks.:dontknow:
SPYDERGUY1
New member
dissapointment
before you all start, we met at a road side campsite/picnic area, thanks. I stopped first and along came the spyder............:lecturef_smilie:
before you all start, we met at a road side campsite/picnic area, thanks. I stopped first and along came the spyder............:lecturef_smilie:
docdoru
Doru the Destroyer-Spyder Photo Investigator
With the Corbin saddlebags actually the RS gain stability on the highway at three digits speed. :doorag:
ThreeWheels
Active member
Scotty (may I call you that ?)
Did 362 miles last Saturday, two up. I cannot keep up with sportbikes, but that's OK.
After the front end alignment, with 17 psi in the tires, everything ran way OK.
Having shared some of your very same issues, I will tell you categorically, that the handling CAN be fixed. I can't swear that they will, but it IS possible.
There seems to have been a rash of badly aligned vehicles. I just wonder how many of us out there that have said "You need to get used to it" or "It's a different ride" or "You need seat time" or or "Higher Tire Pressure" or those looking to improve the ride with different tires, are actually suffering from poor alignment.
Did 362 miles last Saturday, two up. I cannot keep up with sportbikes, but that's OK.
After the front end alignment, with 17 psi in the tires, everything ran way OK.
Having shared some of your very same issues, I will tell you categorically, that the handling CAN be fixed. I can't swear that they will, but it IS possible.
There seems to have been a rash of badly aligned vehicles. I just wonder how many of us out there that have said "You need to get used to it" or "It's a different ride" or "You need seat time" or or "Higher Tire Pressure" or those looking to improve the ride with different tires, are actually suffering from poor alignment.
docdoru
Doru the Destroyer-Spyder Photo Investigator
welcome
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Actually, very few are associated with the dealer prep process, and I took care of those booboos. The alignment is done at the factory. The engine comes ready to run, and the dealer couldn't change the timing or fuel mixture, anyway. The brakes also have nothing to do with the dealer. Same for paint and seat defects, bad gauges, bad light assemblies, etc. Maybe some of these things could be caught by careful inspection during prep, but they are certainly not a result of it.
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
Dealer wouldn't have picked up the poor handling, it was the middle of a Michigan winter. I didn't even catch it until it was Spring, and I started to ride, and even then it wasn't until it was broken in enough to hit the highway that I noticed it was severe. They don't test drive these things. Ours were both delivered with less than one mile on the odo, as it should be. I hope yours is fine, too. Mine certainly seems to be the exception.
BTW, welcome.
vendit
New member
Hey Scotty,
Just curious how your dealer is coming along on your RT? Are they making any progress on your list?
Hope things are progressing for you and the dealer. You are a valuable and very knowledgable owner/rider on this forum, and because of you, many people including myself have been able to solve other problems with their spyders. I hope that they are able to diagnose and repair your RT to your satisfaction in a short time.
Keep the faith.......hopefully BRP will step up to the plate, and make it right for you!
Have a great Day!
Mike
Just curious how your dealer is coming along on your RT? Are they making any progress on your list?
Hope things are progressing for you and the dealer. You are a valuable and very knowledgable owner/rider on this forum, and because of you, many people including myself have been able to solve other problems with their spyders. I hope that they are able to diagnose and repair your RT to your satisfaction in a short time.
Keep the faith.......hopefully BRP will step up to the plate, and make it right for you!
Have a great Day!
Mike
Wheeler~
RT-S PE#0311
:agree: :2thumbs:
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