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DESS Key code again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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WRCLVR said:
Can someone please PM or email me the procedure for replacing the Dess module? My 2019 RTL Dess failed after having battery issues. I will be ordering 710004916 asap and want to try doing this myself. Post replacement, does it need to learn the keys? Is there a procedure for that?
If by email , PM me for my email address

thanks very much
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Read what IMS posted ...... I have pics in one of my Albums ..... the module is located behind the trunk wall just above the Battery ..... so frunk has to be removed ..... the main issue with doing this is re-attaching the rubber AIR snorkel to the Air Box.... I wouldn't even bother with it, not having it actually helps the throttle bodies breath ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
WRCLVR said:
Can someone please PM or email me the procedure for replacing the Dess module? My 2019 RTL Dess failed after having battery issues. I will be ordering 710004916 asap and want to try doing this myself. Post replacement, does it need to learn the keys? Is there a procedure for that?
If by email , PM me for my email address

thanks very much
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Did you get a DESS error on your screen?

Deanna
 
Does anyone have a wire diagram of the DESS module? I have a theory I want to test out on my 2014 and it would save a ton of time if I knew what wires went to what. Thanks!
 
PartsBob79 said:
Does anyone have a wire diagram of the DESS module? I have a theory I want to test out on my 2014 and it would save a ton of time if I knew what wires went to what. Thanks!
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Are you referring to the external wiring connections, or the internal wiring of the module. There are only 5 wire connections to the DESS. Two are for the antenna at the ignition, one is power in, and two connect to the ECM. Internally it is a special limited purpose computer processor so there won't be any way in H*** anyone is going to be able to give diagrams of the internals.

BTW, I see you are new here. :welcome:

If you have intentions of doing your own service work on your Spyder you would be well served to get a service manual for about $25 to $30 from www.canammanuals.com. It has a wiring diagram in it.

Also, for something like this you would do better to start a new thread. This one is years old and many members won't bother to look at it so you'll miss out on getting answers.
 
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I just had the Check Key message today with my 2020 Spyder F3S with 1800 miles... After towing it home that caused me $250. If disappeared right after the spyder was dropped off my driveway...
 

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larryd said:
I DIS-AGREE with this post...I had 3 DESS modules replaced and 1 complete ignition switch with antenna...AND still had DESS issues...Only after having a forum member turn it off did my issues disappear...

SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS; HAVE THE PIA TURNED OFF AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER...larryd
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What do you mean PIA???

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Yes, those with earlier model years were fortunate not to need disabling the DESS as the DESS worked without fault. Can Am changed a system that worked fine in previous years to a few years of problems.

If you read the majority of this topic, 99.9% is focused on 2014 and later Spyders, and the person that started this topic does have a Spyder within that range of years.
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My 2020 Spyder F3S with 1380 miles showed the fault "Check Key" today. After 2 hours of trying everything I called the towing company that charged me $250 just to bring my spyder 4 blocks away from my house. Right after my spyder was dropped at my driveway, the Check Key fault disappeared...
 
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alexf415 said:
What do you mean PIA???
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I think what he was trying to say is if you are ok with the possibility of being stranded out on the road because of this safety item keep it hooked up!:dontknow: If just taking your key out of the bike doesn't deter, someone from stealing your bike, then having this unit on this bike stopping you from using your key out in the woods somewhere is a PITA, and the crook will still take your ride if he wants it!
 
PartsBob79 said:
Does anyone have a wire diagram of the DESS module? I have a theory I want to test out on my 2014 and it would save a ton of time if I knew what wires went to what. Thanks!
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PartsBob79,

I don't have a wire diagram of the DESS module, but I think someone should chime in on this.

Good Luck!

Deanna
 
alexf415 said:
I just had the Check Key message today with my 2020 Spyder F3S with 1800 miles... After towing it home that caused me $250. If disappeared right after the spyder was dropped off my driveway...
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If you get the DESS error on your 2020 F3 S, the DESS module/Antenna/switch should be covered under OEM warranty and the B.E.S.T warranty. I had the DESS module changed twice (all 3 were covered under OEM warranty) and had the Antenna replaced twice.

If you get the DESS module replaced, would you please post the part number?


Deanna
 
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Deanna777 said:
If you get the DESS error on your 2020 F3 S, the DESS module/Antenna/switch should be covered under OEM warranty and the B.E.S.T warranty. I had the DESS module changed twice (all 3 were covered under OEM warranty) and had the Antenna replaced twice.

If you get the DESS module replaced, would you please post the part number?


Deanna
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I don't think I will go that route anymore. The dealership gave me an appointment date of June 12. I can't wait that far while my Spyder is parked at my driveway with sunny weather. Meanwhile according to my email, my buds2 with Megatech for 1 year is arriving this weekend.
 
I have been getting the Check Key notice for a couple of weeks now.

edited due to circumstances beyond my control. will splain more later. :chat:
 
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alexf415 said:
I don't think I will go that route anymore. The dealership gave me an appointment date of June 12. I can't wait that far while my Spyder is parked at my driveway with sunny weather. Meanwhile according to my email, my buds2 with Megatech for 1 year is arriving this weekend.
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I am just trying to help. OK. Good luck with your buds2 and with the Megatech.

Deanna
 
cruisinTX said:
I have been getting the Check Key notice for a couple of weeks now. Have an appointment for 9AM on the 25th at the local dealership to get it disabled. While on the phone, they didn't seem to have a problem with doing it the way I want. We'll see what happens next Thursday.
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cruisin TX,

I thought that the dealerships can't disable the DESS. Keep us posted!

Deanna
 
Deanna777 said:
cruisin TX,

I thought that the dealerships can't disable the DESS. Keep us posted!

Deanna
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Most won't ( BRP rules ) or Can't ..... but if they are willing and have the Megatech license .... well maybe they will ....... if they do .... don't Advertise the fact .... JMHOP .... Mike :thumbup:
 
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Ok Today I disabled the DESS on my 2020 F3S. Oh my goodness. That easy... I am now willing to ride again this beautiful Spyder. I have the megatech license for a year.. I'm from Seattle area in Washington state. wink. wink.
 
Peter Aawen said:
PIA = Pain In 'A part of your anatomy where you normally sit'! :p

But we all try to comply with Forum Rule 4 that says something like: Don't Bypass site filters for swearing, yada yada yada. :thumbup:
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So will PITRA pass muster here. Thats - Pain in the rear anatomy?
 
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My appointment came and went without any happiness this morning. The service manager gave it a shot with two different systems at his disposal and said neither one would allow him to click on the disable icon in the DESS section of the system. He said the icon was there but had the familiar red circle & bar nojoke over it. At least he tried and sent me on my way no charge. Not sure what to do next except hope I don't get stranded somewhere. On a positive note; I was using a "new" key that had been hanging in our key closet since purchase instead of the original that is now 9 years old. He said continue on with that one and maybe keep the other new one in my pocket as a back-up but leave the old one at home. He also opened a case with BRP on the issue to see if they might authorize an override in the computer or have some other insights as have been discussed here on SL.com.
 
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