Dealers getting overwhelmed with trades!

[fastfraser]

I think anyone who waited to order/buy a 2014 will take a sh@t kicking on their trades. Their are so many people waiting to get the bigger motor that I think BRP will be over whelmed with orders.:dontknow:

 

[Bob Denman]

I know who ever gets the 2012 RT I traded in at PitBull is going to get a good deal. Very solid ride and still under warranty plus BEST.

My 2010 has already found a new home... :thumbup:

And they got a one-year warranty on it as well! :yes:

 

[SNOOPY]

Just last month my wife purchased a new 2013 RTS/SM5 for 17,699

Wow, thats awesome.

Id love to pick up another 2013 ST or STL for the wife, especially if the prices drop that far.

 

[stewartj239]

The problem, is that the 2014s are that good! :thumbup:

I don't know. The 2013 has the same chassis as the 2014. The only real change is the new motor and every review I have read says that the HP gain is NOMINAL and it comes with an extra 60 lbs of weight. The V-Twin is a proven motor and the 1330 is new and already having teething problems. Also, not all 2013s had heat problems and there is a new ECM update to address those that do. I guess I'm looking at it the other way - people in the market for a Spyder can get into a 2013, new or used, at a great price point and pretty much have the same bike.

 

[chuck gross]

V-TWIN ROCKS

:agree: Well said the V-twin is one heck of a motor and very well proven

 

[chuck gross]

V-TWIN ROCKS

:agree: Well said the V-twin is one heck of a motor and very well proven

 

[Highwayman2013]

Makes it great for anyone looking for a deal on a used RT

 

[SNOOPY]

I don't know. The 2013 has the same chassis as the 2014. The only real change is the new motor and every review I have read says that the HP gain is NOMINAL and it comes with an extra 60 lbs of weight. The V-Twin is a proven motor and the 1330 is new and already having teething problems. Also, not all 2013s had heat problems and there is a new ECM update to address those that do. I guess I'm looking at it the other way - people in the market for a Spyder can get into a 2013, new or used, at a great price point and pretty much have the same bike.

This is called not buying into the hype. :thumbup:

Lol

 

[Bob Denman]

There's more to it than just the engine. :shocked:

The design of the exhause system...
The cooliing system...
The vastly improved charging system...
The new clutch lock-up system, that's hooked to the new six-speed...

It's NOT simply about the horsepower numbers; it's the total package! :thumbup:

 

[jcthorne]

My clutch and charging system work just fine.

The 5 speed is all that is needed for the V-Twin. The 6 would offer no advantage. Heck I don't get into 5th until well above 70.

My heat problems are gone. The cooling system on the 13 and older works fine. Very few of the 13s have actually overheated, even before the updates.

And I can tell you my 13 out runs a stock 14 from a dead stop. Not by a lot, but it does and keeps pulling away. Well, up to about 75 where I quit. :doorag:

Not saying the 14s are not great bikes. They are. But they are also $10,000 more expensive on average. Its like most things in life, a trade off that each has to make. I can tell you that at 30k plus each, Louise and I would not own 2 Spyders.

 

[Bob Denman]

And I couldn't be happier for you! nojoke :2thumbs:

 

[SNOOPY]

And I couldn't be happier for you! nojoke :2thumbs:

Thats the the point right there.

Everyone has what they chose for a reason and hopefully it makes them happy.

Whether it be a 2008 or a 2014, or anything in between. :thumbup:


.

 

[Oklahoma Spyder]

The deal

A great deal would be if any dealer had any new 2012s left!!!!

 

[stewartj239]

I don't know. The 2013 has the same chassis as the 2014. The only real change is the new motor and every review I have read says that the HP gain is NOMINAL and it comes with an extra 60 lbs of weight. The V-Twin is a proven motor and the 1330 is new and already having teething problems. Also, not all 2013s had heat problems and there is a new ECM update to address those that do. I guess I'm looking at it the other way - people in the market for a Spyder can get into a 2013, new or used, at a great price point and pretty much have the same bike.

I just want to point out that my above comments were not meant as a jab on the 2014. I am sure that it is a sweet ride and that BRP will get the gremlins worked out. I am sure that the 1330 will be what I'm riding a few years down the road.


I just want potential buyers to step back and do a reality check now that the 2014 hype and anticipation has passed. As Bob points out, there are subtle differences beyond the chassis and motor, but are they truly better and are they worth the extra $8K - $10K to get into a 2014 at the moment?


I think that if a 2014 is out of reach for a potential buyer, then right now, they can get a great deal on the 2013. Now that BRP has released an ECM update to address the heat issue, the actual feedback on this site regarding the problem has been very positive. In addition, I would recommend that any 2013 buyer test drive the unit they are planning to purchase to be sure their unit passes their inspection.


Lastly, if money is a factor, then the 2013 and 2014 are more closely related than the prior year RTs (chassis, Brembo brakes, 15" wheels). As the bloated 2013 inventory starts to become depleted, then prices will only go up.

 

[Tango]

My dealer just took a 12RT,and a 13RT in trade. Sold the 12 in a day, the financing failed on the 13. He also has his 13RTS demo for sale. I sat on the 12. It had the Corbin heated seat, backrest, rear backrest on it. Black seat, red spyder stitching all over. What a gorgeous seat. Told the wife, who also loved it, $1400. She rolled her eyes, oh oh. :hun: Tom :trike:

 

[Ramjet]

I don't know. The 2013 has the same chassis as the 2014. The only real change is the new motor and every review I have read says that the HP gain is NOMINAL and it comes with an extra 60 lbs of weight. The V-Twin is a proven motor and the 1330 is new and already having teething problems. Also, not all 2013s had heat problems and there is a new ECM update to address those that do. I guess I'm looking at it the other way - people in the market for a Spyder can get into a 2013, new or used, at a great price point and pretty much have the same bike.

Right on Stewert.....2013 with $2500.00 in mods will gain you Hp and cost you less than taking a bath on trade. The prices the 13 are being traded for are a slap in the gonads IMHO.

$13000.00 trade so less than $8K in value in less than year? Do you know how much Hp you can get out of the 13 motor? Allot for $8K and but the way how much do you need?

What this thread reminds me of is the cheerleader section for BRP they make it look like taking a $8-12K bath is OK that drop in value is obnoxious to say the least and like I said I will stick few grand to fix the BRPM problems rather than take bath but actually some part of me want to just dump this thing and go back to the Victory or F6

 

[Tango]

Right on Stewert.....2013 with $2500.00 in mods will gain you Hp and cost you less than taking a bath on trade. The prices the 13 are being traded for are a slap in the gonads IMHO.

$13000.00 trade so less than $8K in value in less than year? Do you know how much Hp you can get out of the 13 motor? Allot for $8K and but the way how much do you need?

What this thread reminds me of is the cheerleader section for BRP they make it look like taking a $8-12K bath is OK that drop in value is obnoxious to say the least and like I said I will stick few grand to fix the BRPM problems rather than take bath but actually some part of me want to just dump this thing and go back to the Victory or F6

Try trading a Victory back in to a Victory dealer. I know, I tried. Got more money at a BMW dealer. :roflblack: Tom :trike:

 

[Ramjet]

Try trading a Victory back in to a Victory dealer. I know, I tried. Got more money at a BMW dealer. :roflblack: Tom :trike:

Why would you trade the 2013 if it is low miles?

I understand what you are saying but too many are trading because they are running from the "problems" of the 2013 thats the rub here.

 

[ARtraveler]

Right on Stewert.....2013 with $2500.00 in mods will gain you Hp and cost you less than taking a bath on trade. The prices the 13 are being traded for are a slap in the gonads IMHO.

$13000.00 trade so less than $8K in value in less than year? Do you know how much Hp you can get out of the 13 motor? Allot for $8K and but the way how much do you need?

What this thread reminds me of is the cheerleader section for BRP they make it look like taking a $8-12K bath is OK that drop in value is obnoxious to say the least and like I said I will stick few grand to fix the BRPM problems rather than take bath but actually some part of me want to just dump this thing and go back to the Victory or F6

Quoted from above: " Akspyderman
I think we kind of knew this was coming. The 2014 RT's are flying off the shelf. People seem to like them a lot. So far, no issues except for the "locktite on the screw" oil leak issue. We also knew that the trade in market would probably get worse as the season progresses. Early purchasers seem to be getting the best trade in's. Procrastinators, not so good. (Highlights added)

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn: "

For me it boils down that each person makes the decision based on what they want or don't want. I took a big bath when I traded my 2008 GS with over $6,500 in farkles on the 2010 RTS Premier Edition. The 08 was perfect and only had 23K miles on it--but I wanted the RTS a whole lot more. Still driving that one--it is also perfect at 35K miles.

 

[jcthorne]

I think once the glut of unsold 2013s is sold the prices for used RTs will recover a bit, and used 14s will drop some too. Two years from now I bet there is less than $2000 difference in value between a 13 and 14.