dealer prep/ destination charges

[Way2Fast]

I agree, I don't think I was ripped off at all. The sate of FL has some sort of ageement with the state of TN. These guys did what they needed to do to get a spyder in my hands and I'm thankful for that. :doorag:

If FL and TN had an agreement on how sales tax is collected it would work both ways. There is a Big Dog dealership in TN that does not collect any sales tax on bikes sold to residents of other states, FL included. How do I know ? I purchased one. As in most states, FL dealers give buyers a temporary 30 day paper license plate to get the vehicle home and to ride until the tag/registration/title is obtained. I would like to see that FL dealers Department of Revenue sales/use tax return.....then you would really know where the tax collected wound up !


Richard

 

[wildwillie]

Boy o boy you don't think $999.00 frt. and $499 handling fee is hi? I think its real hi. As for sales tax it should be your option when you want to pay it at the dealer or when you regester it for your plate.wildwillie

 

[Stack]

WW
Greetings everyone. I am new to the site, but have sent WildWillie a couple of emails previously. Reside in the Ann Arbor, MI area. Congrats, you must be getting close. I stopped by the dealer in Belleville this afternoon and it would seem so. Looking for help on a good place to order one for myself. Can anyone recommend a place that can delivery a unit early enough to provide hope for riding a good part of this coming summer? :dontknow: I am wondering if the dealers that have large waiting lists and sales will get more units or if it would be better to go with a small Dealer who got one last year, doesn't care to handle them and has no waiting list? He thinks he could get one by July?? Any ideas? Anyone?

 

[tfjunkie]

O.K.

here's what i got told....
The state of TN is 7&....

We....the Dealership in Fl.....will collect 6&...at time of sale........$986.34

You will then be required to pay the 1& difference upon registering the vehicle for plates in your home state.....about a ...$150.00
Duh.

Anyhow...........
If anyone is taking delivery and heading north about 18 / 19 feb..........
Call me.

P.S.
Keep receipts

 

[Way2Fast]

O.K.


here's what i got told....
The state of TN is 7&....

We....the Dealership in Fl.....will collect 6&...at time of sale........$986.34

You will then be required to pay the 1& difference upon registering the vehicle for plates in your home state.....about a ...$150.00
Duh.

Anyhow...........
If anyone is taking delivery and heading north about 18 / 19 feb..........
Call me.

P.S.
Keep receipts

I'm a licensed FL retailer and NO sales tax is collected by any Florida dealer when the vehicle sold is purchased by a resident of another state. The tax due is paid when and where the vehicle is registered. Why did you charge $91.35 for a license and registration fee?? All that should have been provided was a temporary paper tag...and even that would not have been necessary if the vehicle purchased was trailered back to the buyers home state. As for the $3.50 tire and battery fee, that only applies to vehicles registered for use in FL. No out of state owner is going to return to FL to dispose of their worn tires or dead battery !!! DAH !!

Richard

 

[wildwillie]

Richard has it right . If you buy out if state, any charges that are applied to the sale buy state mandate will only apply to residents of that state. The out of state buyer will have all those charges applied to him when he regesters it wherever. The good news is salesman call me, Belleview mi. is getting five in in FEB.
four will be sold one will be a demo. eight more in March I 'am eleven on list. So it looks like March.
You guys remember when I told you how the dealer was handling the waiting list. For those that mist it. Lets say when you ordered yours They ask you what color you wanted you told them a yellow one and you are fifth in line but you are first in line for a yellow one everyone ahead of you want a silver one. If they get a yellow one in he is offering it to the first four first. I told my salesman that it was wrong it should go to the first one that ordered a yellow and he did agree with me but he's not the boss. So I asked him how many that were ahead of me wanted a yellow one he said he did'nt know. BS wildwillie

 

[Lamonster]

Richard has it right . If you buy out if state, any charges that are applied to the sale buy state mandate will only apply to residents of that state. The out of state buyer will have all those charges applied to him when he regesters it wherever. The good news is salesman call me, Belleview mi. is getting five in in FEB.
four will be sold one will be a demo. eight more in March I 'am eleven on list. So it looks like March.
You guys remember when I told you how the dealer was handling the waiting list. For those that mist it. Lets say when you ordered yours They ask you what color you wanted you told them a yellow one and you are fifth in line but you are first in line for a yellow one everyone ahead of you want a silver one. If they get a yellow one in he is offering it to the first four first. I told my salesman that it was wrong it should go to the first one that ordered a yellow and he did agree with me but he's not the boss. So I asked him how many that were ahead of me wanted a yellow one he said he did'nt know. BS wildwillie

I ordered a Yellow one on June 7th, Ron ordered a Silver one on June 9th. I got a call in Dec. that my Yellow one was in and if Ron wanted he could have the other Yellow one that came it. Ron decided to wait for the Silver that he got a little over a week ago.

 

[csmead]

Good news, my bike is "in"...#1032.
Bad news, I am being hit with destination charges of about $1500. I think this is a rip off, but they have me by the (female equivalent to testes) and I will lose a $1000 deposit if I don't take the bike. Anybody want to join me in a self-pity party?
Hey Lamonster, can you send me instructions (to my email address) on how you want pictures uploaded to post?
Also, another pet peeve...if you buy a HD or car and request accessories, there is no addition charge to put them on. My dealership wants to charge $500+ labor charges to put on the accessories. So does anyone have any advice on installing the xeon lights? Later I will need fog light instruction, but at this moment no one our area has fog lights in stock.

 

[mdr]

When I first took a test drive I was quoted 16,700 OTD. Luckily I wrote down the salesperson's name and the day/time I spoke with him because when I went back a month later the price had jumped to 19,500 due to "freight and handling." After two hours of heated negotiations and my promise that I would post the greedy dealership's info on the web and report them to the better business bureau, we agreed on 17,300 OTD. Still high for some parts of the country, but dealerships in So. Cal are marking up as much as they can get away with. I actually had the sales manager and finance director sign a formal contract stating the OTD price so there would be no b.s. when I picked it up. I'm a big believer of putting everything in writing. The dealership did right by me in the end, and even installed the handlebar riser for free. I just picked up the Spyder last week and I've been riding it every day--it is amazing! Well worth the wait and money!

 

[Lamonster]

Good news, my bike is "in"...#1032.
Bad news, I am being hit with destination charges of about $1500. I think this is a rip off, but they have me by the (female equivalent to testes) and I will lose a $1000 deposit if I don't take the bike. Anybody want to join me in a self-pity party?
Hey Lamonster, can you send me instructions (to my email address) on how you want pictures uploaded to post?
Also, another pet peeve...if you buy a HD or car and request accessories, there is no addition charge to put them on. My dealership wants to charge $500+ labor charges to put on the accessories. So does anyone have any advice on installing the xeon lights? Later I will need fog light instruction, but at this moment no one our area has fog lights in stock.

Here's a link to posting pictures on this site. If you need me to help just send me the pics.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/smf/index.php?topic=9.0

I'm not sure where you are but I could help you with the install of your lights. 500 bucks seems a little high to me. :dontknow:

 

[wildwillie]

BRP or can-am needs to do something about these out of hand destination charges. You need to email them and complain about it. If they are set up the same as autos the country is divided into areas and every dealer in that area pays the same.I guess the further away the more it will be.But the dealer is not suppost to charge you more. Thats where BRP or can-am can do something about it but the response I see is they don't care. Unless they start getting a lot of heat on it. (the squeaking wheel gets the grease)I will send them a few lines see if they tell there dealers to stop it.Every one waiting should do the same. wildwillie

 

[csmead]

Here's a link to posting pictures on this site. If you need me to help just send me the pics.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/smf/index.php?topic=9.0

I'm not sure where you are but I could help you with the install of your lights. 500 bucks seems a little high to me. :dontknow:

Thanks, I bookmarked the site for later.
I live in Central CA about 35 north of Fresno. If you were ever in the Navy, that would be about 15 miles from the largest navel airstation in the US...shhhh! We are a secret. The area is so crappy, the Navy actually pay the people higher to live here. Your area looks beautiful, I enjoy your pictures. The $500 was a quick estimate to install every accessory that I ordered, xeon lights, fog lights and something else...I did not order rims or pipe. We were so shocked at how much higher the price of the bike was climbing up to that Bob said he would just do the labor himself. There really is no negotiation on something that they could not quote you on (they did not know how high the destination charge would be) and you have already deposited $1,000. I will take wildwillie's advice and post a complaint on their board, send a complaint to their corporation.

 

[csmead]

to be fair to the dealer, it takes them time to install the accessories. what accessories do you want? if you are installing the factory h.i.d. kit and the fog lights, do it at the same time as a lot of the front end must be disassemble to install either. also, there is a different harness that is required for the fog lights if you have the factory h.i.d. kit.

we usually have no trouble getting factory accessories (usually only takes a week) so ask your dealer to order them. otherwise we can see about getting them for you.

and where are you located?


regards,

ken zeller

About installation, if it is about fairness....
It is ususal and customary for the options ordered on American vehicles to be either placed at the factory if the request was submitted with the order (mine was) or the dealership does the job before delivery at the cost of the company that failed to complete the vehicle as ordered (at the factory). Even if I ordered a BMW with fog light, if my BMW was shipped without lights the company would pay for the labor of installing the lights. Harley Davidson has the same policy. See BRP's trick was; if you order the accessories with you premier edition, we will sell them at a lower price. It was inferred that somethings might have been completed at the factory level, kind of like mine being yellow as opposed to grey. The prices for all the accessories have gone up and if I don't purchase them now, along with the bike...picking them up later will cost more + any needed labor costs.

 

[Way2Fast]

The dealer knows exactly what the destination charge will be. It is the same for delivery right across the border as it is for delivery to CA. It is included on the dealers invoice and is part of the final "dealer cost" on that invoice. For PWC it amounts to about $300 per unit and I imagine the Spyder would be similiar. The number of greedy "Stealers" licensed under BRP's dealership program seems much too numerous.

Richard

 

[tfjunkie]

:spyder:
Hmmmmmmmm........

So ......

What should i do about the whole sales tax thing?

 

[tfjunkie]

:bigthumbsup:
turns out to be true.......

called the local folks and they asked me ..............what did the dealership tell you?

Gave them the info i have been provided with.....
They said yes, that is correct..........

This is a variable....
Goes by each state's agreement.

 

[incy]

hi from oz

this is the figures quoted to date.

$25990.00 for the spyder

$2000.00 approxamately for dealer delivery, rego and stamps.

Total Spyder

$28000.00

with accessories and paint hope to get finalised for $32000.00 after $1000 deposit

 

[csmead]

i know nothing about harley accessories and how that is handled but with most bike brands, there are no "factory installed" accessories - every accessory is a dealer installed option. the same with the can-am spyder - there are no "factory installed" accessories. every u.s. spyder is built the same with the exception of color (later this year they will have a different transmission option but that can't be dealer installed). once it arrives at the dealer, then they can install any accessories you want and since they must spend labor to do it, they can choose whether to charge or not.

i'm not trying to start an arguement but i would guess that in your job if someone asked you to do something that would take several hours but told you they were not going to pay you to do it, you might complain as well.


regards,

ken zeller

Well Ken, I do know somethings about Harley Davidson. When you order your bike, same scenerio...comes off the assembly the same as each model (only color changes). Whether it is to encourage you to buy more bling or accessories, I don't know the reason. But if you order the stuff at the same time you order the bike, the dealers all over the world has some kind of agreement with HD Corp. Maybe they charge HD for completing the assembly process, maybe their labor expense is made up with the profit of the purchase. Just like they charged BRP for some part of the crate removal, attaching the plastic and prepping the bike for delivery. After taking it out of the crate, before the bike was being assembled, the cost of adding my xenon lights would have been less. BRP should have picked up that cost. I am not talking about new pipe or rims, just "safety" items, such as xenon lights and fog lights.

 

[flyjake]

Considering the prices that H-D charges for their items, I'm surprised that installation isn't included! I've watched a friend sink thousands into the bling for his H-D cruiser, and he STILL had to pay for installation of those "Hundred Dollar" items! (I am getting the foglights, riser, and 12V plug installed when my Spyder comes in, figuring it will be easier for them to install those items at that time.)
Regarding my purchase, I will be paying $15299 for my silver Spyder plus $70 document fee. No other costs AT ALL except my cost of accessories (10% off), the installation, and sales tax. Order was secured and assured in September, with delivery expected in March (BRP contract date). Talk to John at Flamingo Motorsports, (Palmer, MA)

 

[tfjunkie]

Picking up mine this weekend.

Will provide a precise breakdown.