I have yet to have this happen on my Spyder, but have on my cage for one stop light that I use to go to work. What I did in the past was I wait two cycles and run it, but since it is 3:45 in the morning there is normally no other vehicles around. I am moving, so it won't matter in a month.
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bruiser
New member
Yep, you're correct Scotty. In fact, this is something they teach in the motorcycle safety course. I actually carry a copy of the NC law with me, just in case.
Firefly
Active member
I bought a green-trigger last year - just never installed it yet. It's not an electronic device at all--- it's a magnet about the size of a deck of cards.
I have one that I hit quite often (scotty: going north on Riverside turning west onto Columbia) - which is why I bought the green trigger.
I can't recall where I heard about the 'proceed on red' in Michigan or if I'm just flat out crazy and never heard it! Since I couldn't find it on the books I would err on the side of caution in Michigan.
I've had the same problem at drive-thru windows sometimes too.
I have one that I hit quite often (scotty: going north on Riverside turning west onto Columbia) - which is why I bought the green trigger.
I can't recall where I heard about the 'proceed on red' in Michigan or if I'm just flat out crazy and never heard it! Since I couldn't find it on the books I would err on the side of caution in Michigan.
I've had the same problem at drive-thru windows sometimes too.
3Willie
Member
Dead Red Light Law in Missouri
This is the Missouri Law.
SB 368Provides an affirmative defense to bicyclists and motorcyclists who run red lights under certain conditions
Sponsor:StoufferLR Number:1891S.02TFiscal Note:1891-02Committee:TransportationLast Action:7/9/2009 - Signed by GovernorJournal Page: Title:Calendar Position:Effective Date:August 28, 2009House Handler:Jones
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SB 368 - This act provides that a person operating a motorcycle or bicycle who enters or crosses an intersection controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light shall have an affirmative defense to that charge if the person establishes all of the following conditions:
(1) The motorcycle or bicycle has been brought to a complete stop;
(2) The traffic signal continues to show a red light for an unreasonable time;
(3) The traffic signal is apparently malfunctioning or, if programmed or engineered to change to a green light only after detecting the approach of a motor vehicle, the signal has apparently failed to detect the arrival of the motorcycle; and
(4) No motor vehicle or person is approaching on the street or highway to be crossed or entered or is so far away from the intersection that it does not constitute an immediate hazard.
The affirmative defense applies only to a violation for entering or crossing an intersection controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light and does not provide a defense to any other civil or criminal action.
A similar provision was contained in SB 614 (2007) and SCS/SB 969 (2006).
This provision is also contained in SS/SCS/SB 239 et al (2007). STEPHEN WITTE
This is the Missouri Law.
SB 368Provides an affirmative defense to bicyclists and motorcyclists who run red lights under certain conditions
Full Bill Text|All Actions|Available Summaries|Senate Home Page|List of 2009 Senate Bills
Current Bill Summary
SB 368 - This act provides that a person operating a motorcycle or bicycle who enters or crosses an intersection controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light shall have an affirmative defense to that charge if the person establishes all of the following conditions:
(1) The motorcycle or bicycle has been brought to a complete stop;
(2) The traffic signal continues to show a red light for an unreasonable time;
(3) The traffic signal is apparently malfunctioning or, if programmed or engineered to change to a green light only after detecting the approach of a motor vehicle, the signal has apparently failed to detect the arrival of the motorcycle; and
(4) No motor vehicle or person is approaching on the street or highway to be crossed or entered or is so far away from the intersection that it does not constitute an immediate hazard.
The affirmative defense applies only to a violation for entering or crossing an intersection controlled by a traffic-control signal against a red light and does not provide a defense to any other civil or criminal action.
A similar provision was contained in SB 614 (2007) and SCS/SB 969 (2006).
This provision is also contained in SS/SCS/SB 239 et al (2007). STEPHEN WITTE
JJW SpyderRider
New member
I have the problem with dead red lights at ALL intersections in the town just south of my home. The loops are not marked making it hard to find the best position to stop at. I've been stuck at one light with another M/C and had a car pull up behind us and it still would not change :gaah:. The M/C and I did make te left turn after about 4 missed lights. If I'm at the light going straight they seem to switch without any problem. It is my understanding that you can not turn left on the red. You have to move over and go straight to find another interstation to make the turn or make the right turn first.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
In MD, we have red light camera everywhere...I think that if there was a situation such as this one, and you went though, you'd get a ticket, regardless of what you were riding/driving.
I'm not sure if all lights here are on timers or on some time of pressure whatever, but with all the red light cameras, running a red is usually not a good idea...
I'm not sure if all lights here are on timers or on some time of pressure whatever, but with all the red light cameras, running a red is usually not a good idea...
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Neodymium magnets...are these save to put on the underside of the bike or will the electronics, which are already a bit sensitive, go nuts?
SpydeRider2010
New member
this is what TN has on the books. just be VERY careful, when doing so. look left, look right, look left again. be safe !!!
The law allows motorcycles to "run" a red light in TN after stopping.
T.C.A. 55-8-110
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.(b) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the driver of a motorcycle approaching an intersection that is controlled by a traffic-control signal utilizing a vehicle detection device that is inoperative due to the size of the motorcycle shall come to a full and complete stop at the intersection and, after exercising due care as provided by law, may proceed with due caution when it is safe to do so. It is not a defense to a violation of § 55-8-109 that the driver of a motorcycle proceeded under the belief that a traffic-control signal utilized a vehicle detection device or was inoperative due to the size of the motorcycle when such signal did not utilize a vehicle detection device or that any such device was not in fact inoperative due to the size of the motorcycle
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Red_light...stopped_and_there_is_no_traffic#ixzz1DknGzxrd
The law allows motorcycles to "run" a red light in TN after stopping.
T.C.A. 55-8-110
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.(b) Notwithstanding any provision of law to the contrary, the driver of a motorcycle approaching an intersection that is controlled by a traffic-control signal utilizing a vehicle detection device that is inoperative due to the size of the motorcycle shall come to a full and complete stop at the intersection and, after exercising due care as provided by law, may proceed with due caution when it is safe to do so. It is not a defense to a violation of § 55-8-109 that the driver of a motorcycle proceeded under the belief that a traffic-control signal utilized a vehicle detection device or was inoperative due to the size of the motorcycle when such signal did not utilize a vehicle detection device or that any such device was not in fact inoperative due to the size of the motorcycle
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Red_light...stopped_and_there_is_no_traffic#ixzz1DknGzxrd
wyliec
New member
I may have missed it; but, how do you tell when a signal light uses a vehicle detection device?
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Someone, might've been Fire, posted a video on this thread...it's as easy as looking at the concrete...if there are lines of tar, you have a detector.
I just ordered some Neodymium magnets...anyone know if they're safe to put on the bottom of the Spyder?
www.kjmagnetics.com
bruiser
New member
Look for the loop imbedded in the road surface. You can usually tell by the line of "tar" they use to cover the loop. One caviate to this, if the road has been resurfaced, you won't see the loop and resurfacing generally makes the loop inoperable anyway.
1VENOM
New member
In Virginia, DMV says
In the state of Virginia, the DMV sends out notices to motorcycle owners.
If you have difficulty getting the light to change, try this, place your bike in neutral and rev the engine this creates a larger electrical field that often triggers the sensor. I have done this and maybe its just luck but I have not had the problem at the same light as before.
In the state of Virginia, the DMV sends out notices to motorcycle owners.
If you have difficulty getting the light to change, try this, place your bike in neutral and rev the engine this creates a larger electrical field that often triggers the sensor. I have done this and maybe its just luck but I have not had the problem at the same light as before.
jrbloise
New member
Green Light Trigger....
I also have the Green Light Trigger which is a powerful magnet installed under the Spyder. It sometimes works.
Life Firefly, in the State of Tennessee, after two "no changes" you are allowed by law to go thru the red light (if it's safe of course).
John
I also have the Green Light Trigger which is a powerful magnet installed under the Spyder. It sometimes works.
Life Firefly, in the State of Tennessee, after two "no changes" you are allowed by law to go thru the red light (if it's safe of course).
John
Star Cruiser
New member
I have not had any problems with the Neodymium magnet afixed to my undercarriage. I have it on the left side near the driver's foot peg.
It appears to work quite well for me.
wyliec
New member
I guess, if I ever get caught at a light, I'll pull in the clutch. Up to this point I cannot remember ever having a problem. I was almost tempted to buy a magnet.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
Can you post a picture of that? I don't want to take any chances with magnets and our electrical systems...if it works for you, I'll gladly replicate...
I got a disc magnet with about 18 pounds of 'lift'...should be strong enough...I also got the high heat one just in case I had to put it someplace where the bike is hot...
