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Dave & Teds Most Excellent Adventures 2013

Weekend continued again ..............

Now it all made since, why Teddy didn't take to the 1st Dr. Neiman like usual, cause he could tell it wasn't 'HIS' Dr. Neiman :ohyea: Oh what we can learn from our animals :bowdown:

So we all got to talking and our Vet explained how the next day was her Mom's Birthday & she decided to Fly her twin sister in from out of town, and she wanted it to be a secret, so that's why she was spending the day with her at her job at the Vetinary Clinic. Hmmmmm, just realized, I never asked, but I don't think her sister is a vet as well, think she does something totally different, but not sure. Sure did make me think twice tho, I'll admit that :opps:

So we discussed Teddy's seemingly increasing issues with his trachea & having to spit up so much, and as I thought, not much we can do. Maybe try changing the flavor of his torib to something like p-nut butter flavor or something, cause after a few years on the stuff, maybe he's just tired of the same 'ole same 'ole, which I can totally understand. So she said she'd check with a formulary that they use & see what they offered and she would get back with me the following week.

I agreed, but hid my concern.

Sounds like the perfect time for a back-story:

I know back in 2009, a friend and I took Teddy with us on a road-trip (b4Spyder) to Florida & I had forgotten to pack Teddy's medicine. Once Teddy started hacking real bad, and I realized this, I didn't get too worried cause I figured Pets-Mart/Banfield are Nation-Wide, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to just go to the local BanField their in St. Pete and they could either pull up Teddy's records in their system, or if needed, call our local BanField & get a copy of his prescription and give us the same medicine that he takes. Sounds logical and about right, wouldn't you think?

Well, little did I know then, logical isn't anything close to what this ordeal turned out to be. Seems Dr. Neiman conconcted Teddy's torib in cherry suspension in the office, for Teddy & a few other pups that have the same condition, and none of the other clinics have heard of the practice..... as they just recommend having the surgery instead. So when I asked them to call our local clinic back home, they did, and then said, sorry, we can't help you, as that product is a narcotic, and we don't even carry it in stock, we use something entirely different for the actual intended use of the base medicine.

Great, so now we're 1500 miles from home and poor lil Teddy was hacking his head off. "What would you suggest we do?" I asked the Vet there at the St. Pete location, and that's when he suggested us going up the road to their local Formulary and seeing if they could make the medicine for us. So we followed their directions and were soon at the Formulary. Before this, I hadn't even heard of a 'Formulary' where they made individual medicines to order from your doctors prescription for individual patients...... who knew :dontknow:

So we get there & I handed the tech behind the bullet-proof glass :shocked: the prescription that the St. Pete Vet gave to us, that he got from our local vet back home, and the tech looked at me with a perplexed expression & asked, "Ummm, is this for you?" I just kind of laughed, not knowing what the big deal was and replied, "No, its for my dog..... to treat his collapsing trachea." The tech. responded, "Oh, Ok, that makes better sense. But, ummmmmm, you know this is what vets use to put animals to sleep....... right?"

I gulped, cause at this time, I didn't know that was what the actual use of the narcotic-base was. I just knew that it was what his vet (Dr. Nieman) back home had prescribed from the on-set and never really questioned at the time, what it actually was and if she was using it for an off-intended use, like we aparently were. But I got scared when the tech. said it was used to put animals to 'sleep'. In my mind, back then, that meant they were putting an animal 'Down' by putting them to 'sleep' more or less...... killing them :yikes: And for a moment, the realization hit me, that for the past couple of years, I was giving Teddy medicine on a daily basis, that if I overdosed him, I could have easily killed him :shocked:

I think the tech. could see the anxiety on my face as that realization was setting in, cause he asked if I was ok, and I just nodded. I then asked, "You mean, this is what they use to euthanize an animal?"

TBC .......................
 
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Weekend continued again .............. finishing the backstory

The young tech. laughed at my question & readily understood why I was looking so pain-riddled & replied, "No no no no....... nothing of the sort. Many vets use Butorphanol mixed with other meds to 'sedate' an animal, like before doing surgery. Its not INTENDED to euthanize an animal, tho I'm sure if you were to really over-dose an animal with it, it would cause severe enough respiratory failure that would lead to death, but that
would only be in severe cases of overdose."

Whew, Ok, so chalk that up to another anxiety riddled life lesson for me :opps: Just in case your wondering, here's what Wiki has to say about it, relating to animal use:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butorphanol

So anyways, they obviously decided to use something different in the State of Florida, or at least at the St. Pete BanField cause the Vet on duty acted as if I were asking him for Crack or something, and said they stocked nothing of the sort.

So the friendly young tech. at the formulary asked how much I would need, and I explained that our Vet back home usually mixed it in a cherry suspension and that I would usually give Teddy 1CC/day as needed for his hacking & coughing. Since we still had 4 days left in Florida, I said how about 5CC's just to make sure we have enough to get home. The tech. tapped away at the keyboard in front of him, and after a few moments said, "Sure, we can make this up for you no problem. It will take us about 3 days & the total would be $372. We need payment up-front, how would you like to pay for it?"

:shocked::yikes: I about sh*t a golden brick right then & there :yikes::shocked: To say I was in shock doesn't even scratch the surface :cus::mad::yikes: Thru our regular vet back home, we'd usually get a 30CC vial of the medicine already in the cherry suspension ready to use and the entire vial was something like $43........ total:clap: and that was for 30CC worth of medicine, and here this kid is telling me its going to be $372 and take 3 days for them to make it, and for only 5cc's .......... ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS :cus::cus::cus:

With a look of astonishment & disgust, I said something very similar to the above to the tech. cause I just couldn't believe it.

TBC .................................
 
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Weekend continued again .............. The conclusion of the FLorida backstory ......

I admit, I'm ashamed :opps: at my initial reaction and to have taken it out on the tech. as I know he was only doing his job :lecturef_smilie: But I think most of you out there can also relate and I would guess, many might even have reacted with the same indignation that I did :agree: even tho it wasn't exactly PC (politacally correct) or even warranted, at least from the tech.s perspective :opps:

After I regained my composure, I kindly asked if he could explain to me why there was such a variance in what I usually get & pay for back home to what he was quoting me for almost nothing? :hun:

Not that I have any such inclination or desire, but I'm pretty sure for $372 for 5 cc's of product, most of which is the cherry suspension, I could probably get the best .................. never mind...... you get where I was going with that.... just didn't make any sense :mad: at least to me.

So he explained how 'Formulary's' are kind of a last resort for a type of medicine not readily or commercially available and that the store has to procure the base elements and then fashion them to the prescribers exacting specifications ..... etc, etc, etc and all that costs lots of money to do and have done. At which, I politely thanked the young tech. for his help in educating me, but due to financial constraints, would not be able to get the medicine thru them.

So we went back to our camp-ground on the beach (in case anyone wants to know, St.Pete has one of the few dog-friendly campgrounds, that's directly on the beach in the entire state of Florida called Fort De Soto Park & we highly recommend them:firstplace:) & I called Dr. Neiman & explained our situation & she was as surprised as we were that the BanField their in Florida didn't carry the Torib (what we call Butorphonal for short) and she then suggested that we could try some kid-friendly cough syrup but in a really small dose at first & if that didn't seem to help to try a little more.... etc, until he was out of stress. We tried, but didn't really find anything that worked, so we cut our trip short & headed back to home the next day.

Wow, I never can just tell a short story....... can I? :banghead: My writings reflect my ADHD, one thing leads to another, and to another, and to.......... and in the end, you have 50 projects/stories all going on at once, and none of them are done, just like here, just like life :rolleyes: ................. :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

So.......... back to our story of this weekend, huh??? :rolleyes: So where were we............. Oh yeah ...


TBC ...........................
 
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What we take for granted!

We've got one of those little old formulary's here in Laporte that makes a special medicine compound for hubby. They certainly are a dying breed, kinda like the shoe repair places. Special skills like that are going away. :(:(:( But I know what you mean about just assuming you can drop in at the local location and get it taken care of. :helpsmilie: Hubby and I were in Alaska for a fishing expedition and cruise and I forgot to pack my motion sickness patches. Yikes! :banghead::banghead: I get sick like no body's business without them. So we arrive at the airport in Alaska, and I figure I'll just go to the local Walgreens and pick up a refill before we leave Anchorage. NO DEAL! :yikes::yikes: There are NO WALGREENS in Alaska! :cus: What has this world come to? I ask. My ears can't believe what I'm hearing. So, just as I am contemplating spending the next 10 days a delightful shade of green - It comes to me :pray::pray::pray: I have a sister in-law with a key to my house and access to UPS overnight. She came to my rescue and the vacation was saved when the UPS man delivered my medicine early the next morning. :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:


Moral of the story - always have a packing list :read::read: and a reliable back up plan!! :roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

or maybe always pack a little whiskey!
 
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This past Weekend ........... Continued yet again

In talking with Dr. Neiman & her sister, my fears about Teddy's health issues as he grows older became the topic. I had relayed the story from a couple of weeks back, about when we stopped by Ace Hardware & the young girl at the cash register was fawning all over Teddy & telling us how when we were there the previous week, she had posted pics of Teddy to her Instagram Account & that she had gotten the most responses ever & how everything was good and jockular & then she shocked me right before we left by asking, "Wow, what are you going to do when he's gone?"

Dr. Neiman was all smiles while I was relaying the story to her, and her face dropped just like mine had when the young girl so innocently proposed her question to me. "Seriously, just out of the blue, she asks THAT?" she asked.

"Yup. And I know it was an honest and innocent question, cause she knows the bond that Teddy & I share, but as I told her, that's just not something I choose to think about" and we left the store a little sadder than when we entered, to say the least.

"Wow, I could imagine. So, I'm guessing that's been on your mind this entire time, huh?" Dr. Neiman coaxed, changing from Teddy's Vet to my personal Psychologist in the hopes of helping both of us.

"Well, yeah. You know, with him being the runt, and having so many health issues, and ......." I just went quiet in somber thought of a future without Teddy in it. Not gonna lie, I think my eyes were a bit on the wattery side and I felt a little exposed, considerring her sister was there & this was the first time we were meeting.

But as usual, Teddy's Vet is always upbeat & on the postive side, so she stopped my thought process in its tracks and smiled and said, "You know, its a fact that many runts have health issues, and yes, Teddy has his share, but just because he's a runt doesn't necessarily mean he's going to have a shorter life span than a non-runt would have. Yes, genetics has a big role, but so does living a healthy & active lifestyle and being in a loving environment, and I don't think there's much better you could do for Teddy than your already doing. I don't think you have anything to worry about, and I don't think this is a sign of progression, just maybe more of a platue and he's tired of the same old stuff, so maybe we need to change things up a bit." While talking, she's poking and prodding around on Teddy while her sister watches from the background, and as she continued her investigatory prodding, she elicited a loud "YEALP!" from Teddy, which kind of surprised all of us. "Hmmmm, I wouldn't have thought that would be his reaction, I was just trying to coax him to start his coughing. I wonder....." and she got out her stethiscope and proceeded to listen to Teddys Lungs and heart and I could tell she was hearing something that concerned her a bit by the look on her face. "I'm thinking much of whats going on might be cause he sounds like he has a slight sinus infection, so we'll give him some anti-biotics to go home with you. Start him on them tomorrow, and it should clear up in no time, and we'll check back in a couple of weeks & see how he's doing then. Don't worry Dave, he's fine, and he's going to be fine for a long time to come. Get what that girl said out of your head, or it will just eat away at you & you'll worry about everything and you'll be afraid to Live Life. And that would be the worse thing you could do, for either of you."

Have I ever told you how much I love Teddy's Vet :bowdown: She's a fantastic woman :bowdown:

So that was how Friday went, so lets get on to Saturday, and our Group Ryde to Augusta KY with a few other Cincy Area Locals :clap:

TBC ......... work work work :banghead:
 
This past Weekend ........... Continued = Group Ryde on Saturday

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So there were four of us locals for our Group Ryde to Augusta, KY on Saturday which some of you may know (or may not) is the home-town of the Clooney Clan, as in most noteably, George Clooney. It was kind of funny, cause after the 4 of us made it to the center of town and parked our Spyders, we walked across the street to snap a few pics, and as we did, so did many of the locals and other tourists. Especially since I had left The Tedster on the back of his sled so he could pose for a few of the pics, I soon discovered that I couldn't really take pics of him because of the gathering crowd he was garnering. And of course, he ham'd it up as usual, and allowed me to don his doggles (even tho his sled wasn't moving) and he happily posed for picture after picture. As we would appease one crowd and they'd start back on their way thru the quaint streets to the local businesses, another crowd would soon take their place, Ohhhhhh'n & Ahhhhhhh'n around Teddy.


One of the local merchant owners came out to see what all the 'hubub' was about, and when I pointed out Teddy (that was across the street) on the back of the Spyder to her, she asked for me to wait til she could get her camera & she'd be right back. She came back quickly and approached Teddy while taking pictures with her camera phone and then stopped to thank & pet Teddy for being so patient and posing for her. I found a treat for him, & told the lady to hold her hand close enough so that Teddy could reach it, and then ask him to 'HI5' & she did, and Teddy did, so he could get his treat, and the lady really lit up in a HUGE :D Smile. She then made the comment that we should be on Letterman & that she wished that Marjory Clooney (I think George Clooney's Mom, not really sure tho) was in town, cause she was really an animal lover and would have really enjoyed seeing & meeting Teddy:bowdown: Sometimes, I'm really amazed at the amount of JOY that this one little dog brings into so many lives :clap: Notable natives and residents[edit]


The high school carillon in Augusta, KY is dedicated to Rosemary Clooney.




The above picture is part of what I was describing earlier about crowd after crowd enjoying the 'AWE' that IS TEDDY :clap: After all that got settled down, we went down the street to a quaint little bistro for lunch, and you talking about jaws dropping when the ppl inside saw me set Teddy in the high-chair at the table, it was a funny sight to say the least. I mean, this is a very small town river-city, with maybe 400 residents, but tons of charm, so they always have tourists stopping by year round, cause it really is like taking a step back in time. So yeah, you can imagine, there not used to seeing ANYTHING like Teddy, a Spyder Ryde'n little black dog with a red mow-hawk & matching pom tail and a personality larger than life itself ........... GOOD TIMES :cheers:


After we ate lunch at the little bistro in Augusta, we found that the Ferry was closed for construction, so we couldn't get across the Ohio River like we originally planned. So instead, we decided to continue on the KY side of the river til we got to the bridge and cross over there and Coz suggested stopping by Rockin' Robbin's Soda Shoppe for dessert.............. mmmmmmmmmmm.............. Ice Cream Sundays, Yummy:2thumbs:



After dessert and some more good conversation, we found it was already starting to get dark outside, so we had better start making our way back home. We ended up stopping in New Richmond along the Ohio River at one of their quaint little river parks where you can launch your boats. That's where we took the above picture and let Teddy run around like a crazy dog, since he had been so good with having to sit in 2 different high-chairs thru lunch and then thru dessert where he had his own ice-cream & subsequent 'BRAIN-FREEZE' :shocked: poor lil guy ... :roflblack: He just can't stop himself ... :rolleyes: But he was good, and I figured since he had a sugar rush, best to let him run around a bit & burn it off :thumbup:

After the river-park, we all headed our seperate ways home, just as the sun was setting on a pretty decent day, if I do say so myself ;) If I had to guess, I'd say Teddy did his part that day, to make at least 50 or so peoples' day just a little brighter :ohyea:
 
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Great story, as usual and I'm glad to hear that Teddy is going to be okay, Steve, but there was no pictures in your last post (just those red crosses).
 
CyncySpyder said:
I'm not sure why this is. I've pulled the post up on WinXP & also on my phone using Android & both platforms show the pictures for me, so I'm at a bit of a loss. Even when accessing using Tap-a-Talk, it took a few seconds for them to load, but they did show, even there.

:dontknow:Mind sharing which platform/web browser your using?:hun:

Anyone else having issues with being able to see the pics posted in my last post:dontknow:

There were only 3 pics and one Copy/Paste from Wiki about the "Famous Residents of Augusta" :dontknow:

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Nope can't see the pictures thought it was on my end
 
Hopefully this worked

I deleted & re-uploaded the pics, if someone can let me know if it worked or not, I'd appreciate it :bowdown:
 
I see the pictures now. I didn't see them before. Sounds like it was a good day and a good trip. I'm going through withdrawal symptoms because I put my Spyder away at the end of October. It's just been too cold and windy to ride and if it's warmer, it's usually raining.

Tony
 
Was a chilly 24F on the ryde in to work this morning

Here's what one of our local weather-men has to say about the rest of the week.... weather wise :(

Good morning! Its a bit colder this morning. With clear skies, we are starting in the 20s and lower 30s. Expect lots of sunshine to start the day with a gradual increase in clouds later on. It won't be as chilly today, but still rather cool with highs reaching to near 50. Tonight, cloud cover thickens in advance of our next weather system which will bring a few hit-or-miss showers to the area tomorrow. But the rain chances go much higher tomorrow night into Friday as yet another cold front moves in. Behind this front, we could be looking at the coldest air we have seen yet this season....................... :shocked: Oh Joy :(



Well, it IS almost winter time, so what else can we expect for where we live :lecturef_smilie:

Don't know if its worse for me or for Teddy, but I really can't stand his coat now that its in its in-between phase, now that we're letting it grow back out for the winter time. Its not nearly as bad as long hair in the summer, cause then its just a total rats-nest when we get done ryding, especially if he had me going on the Interstate :ohyea:

At least with it getting colder, whenever we ryde now, I always keep a shirt on him and usually his ryding jacket, so it pretty much keeps his coat under control and well hidden from wisping around and getting matted. But having to brush him out every day isn't something he really enjoys:shocked: no matter how tender I try to be. He tollerates it to an extent, then when he's had his limit, he'll actually raise his paw & stop my hand with the comb in it, and he'll give me 'That' look :rolleyes: as if to say, "OK, we're done now" :lecturef_smilie: move on dad. Oh yeah, he knows how to play me :ohyea: no doubt about that :doorag:

A little down today :( cause we were looking forward to making a road-trip to Lamonts this weekend to have him do the Laser Alignment on Teds Red Sled & we also had 2 other locals that wanted to go as well. Had everything confirmed with Lamont, but it was all depending on the weather :dontknow: and wouldn't you know it, we all agreed we could deal with the cold, just not cold & WET & sure enough, Lamonts area has a 60% chance of rain for Saturday :banghead: So we had to call the road-trip off :( Have to admit, I don't like 'get'n soft' but I also know its probably for the best. Freezing temps and wetness can easily lead to ice which can just as easily lead to... :yikes:

So instead, I talked with a few other locals & we're going to try to get a group of at least 10 (hopefully more) Spyder Owners to commit that they want the Laser Alignment done, and once we get enough, I'll contact Lamont once again & see when he can come to the Cincy Area and do them here locally :clap:

Here's a link to the Thread where I have the Tally sheet started, and we just had another add, so we're up to 6, just need at least 4 more :pray:
 
I'm sorry I missed that last ride. I decided to work that Saturday to make up the hours I would loose taking off the next Friday for the trip to Lamont's for the alignments. Bummer were not going to get to go now because of the weather, I missed two great rides now....
 
Living Our Adventures thru digital media on this site.... Thanks Lamont

MarkLawson said:
Check with Lamont. Maybe there's a limit on how many pics (or total mb's) a member is allowed to post & you've hit it.
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:yikes:WoW :yikes: Reading your post got me to thinking :lecturef_smilie: so I just checked and saw that we have 2841 pics uploaded to this site since we 1st joined and began this Adventure way back in June of 2010 :ohyea: That sure is alot of pics :rolleyes: Luckily for us, Lamont doesn't charge (us members) by the upload or MB or we'd definitely be in the poor house, that's for sure :joke:

I figured it out :lecturef_smilie:and as is usual, it was my own doing :shocked: I had uploaded the pics using Teddy's Galaxy Tab & they were not showing when uploading, but they still showed (on the Tab at least) as if they did upload, but I guess they really didn't. So I just went back & deleted the blank files & re-uploaded them correctly, and all was well once again :doorag: in SpyderLand :ohyea:

(which reminds me, I need to clear out our Inbox for the 4th time, as we've got 997 msgs of our allowed 1,000 :opps: That Teddy sure is popular:rolleyes:)
 
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Thought I'd add my updated review after 3 seasons of using the 1stGear Thermo-Suit

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1stGear Riding Suit Review
(Originally posted 12/30/2010)
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OK, so I took advantage of the 1stGear Riding Suit being offered here by a fellow member (BajaRon) for $*** delivered.
You cant get it that cheap from the manufacturers website even, so it was a Great Deal (if it worked)

Well, Ive had mine for over 3 weeks now (as of 12/30/10) & promised to give it a review once I had time to actually test it out, so here goes.

Let me start by saying, IMHO
For the price, YOU CAN'T BEAT IT!

THERMO TEXTILE 1-PIECE SUIT
100% waterproof, 210 denier Hypertex
120-gram polyester insulation
Full storm flap closures on zippers, pockets and cuffs
Cargo storage pockets
Elasticized ankle closures and adjustable waist
2-year limited warranty

Ive ridden in 5-12 degree F temps for more than 30 minutes at a time, reaching brief highway speeds up to triple digits, and with only wearing normal clothes underneath, (long sleeve shirt & jogging pants) & the only thing that got chilled (not cold) was my neck area. While riding, the collar provides adequit wind protection with a full face helmet, but whenever I look down at my instruments, I can feel the cold air on my neck.

Ive read other posts talking about Balaclavas, but I havent really felt I needed one. I actually went out and bought one, and if I were going on a long trip in sub-freezing weather, I may use it, (thus still haven't) But Ive found for trips less than an hour, its not really an issue.

Ive been out ryding everyday that its been dry out. We had 2 weeks straight with below freezing temps, and I was able to ryde 11 of the past 14 days. Today, it got up to 37 & I went for a 100 mile ryde, just for fun. All was on the expressway & I was actually passed by a 2 wheeler, and the thoughts that went thru my head were, that guy looks miserable. He had no windshield, half helmet, scarf, at least 2 heavy coats & i dont know how many pants & gloves, but you could tell the guy wasn't having fun. Me, on the other hand, thanks in part to the RT-S's heated grips & adjustable windshield, along with my 1stGear Riding Suit, I WAS HAVING FUN!!! I love this suit!!!

The legs zip up half way for easy access for putting on boots & then have velcro to close over the zipper to prevent wind/water from get'n in & elastic at the bottom to create a seal around your boots.

The arms have velcro adjusters at the end, so I put on my bulky gloves and velcro them tight and get no air/water penetration at all.

Now for the drawbacks

NO HAND POCKETS:
The Suit has 1 chest pocket & 2 smallish front-leg cargo pockets. It has no pockets on the sides like you have on normal pants. So, when you come to your destination, & if you take off your balky riding gloves like I do, you have no-where to put your hands to keep them warm while walking in the cold to your destination.

COLLAR:
The collar could be another inch or so higher to help buffer the cold air when looking down, but that may just be me. I mean, if I had a shorter neck, it wouldn't be an issue, right? LOL As stated above, looking forward with normal driving, the wind wasn't an issue in the neck area.

BULK:
The suit is kind of bulky, but I don't think you can really get around this, for the wind/cold protection that it gives you. I'm 5'9, 175lb & ordered a medium size. The waist is adjustable with velcro strips and the top fits fine, but the legs bunch just a bit, but nothing major.
Conclusion:
OK, so...... all that be'n said, I checked out 1stGears website www.firstgear-usa.com and they do have another riding suit (Expedition) that looks like they corrected the few issues that I mentioned here, but for
:yikes:$500!!! :yikes:

For $*** delivered, I'm enjoying ryding every day thats dry no matter the temperature outside. I hope this helps some of you that have been on the fence about this product. I don't think you would be dissapointed, I know I'm VERY SATISFIED & can now enjoy Ryding my Spyder Year Round!!!

Update: 3/24/2011
I ditto everything stated above

Update: 11/21/2013
I ditto everything stated above, however, I think I discovered the suits first real issue, at least in my personal use & experience.
After 3 years/seasons of use in freezing/cold temperatures, I've rather shockingly discovered that the suits Water-Proofing properties were extremely compromised, and the suit no longer provides any real water/rain protection. This may be a known common occurence that over time, products such as this suit, will eventually loose their water-repellancy capibilities, but I personally was unaware of this fact. Needless to say, wearing the suit on a 600 mile trip while it was in the 40's and pouring down rain, within about 15 minutes of the beginning of the ryde, I started to feel cold running down the center of my back. At first, I thought it was just the cold rain water running down the outside of the suit from my helmet, but I soon discovered the water was INSIDE the suit. It seemed where ever there was a sewn seem, water would flow right thru it. After 45 minutes of ryding thru the rain, I was soaked to the bone and because of the cold water, I was freezing & had to stop & change into an entirely new set of dry clothes and alternative rain-gear that I had brought along, just in case. Since that experience, I tried applying two coats of Scotch Guard Spray sealant as recommended by a buddy & tried the suit again just this past Halloween, and it still leaked really bad. I'll try another type of Heavy-Duty sealant & see if that helps any or not.

So, with this latest discovery, let me add this statement.
In dry weather of any temps below 50:thumbup:I STILL HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS SUIT :thumbup:

And for the first 2 seasons of use, the suit performed flawlessly as both my Cold Weather & Rain Gear combined. You just need to be aware that its water repellancy properties do become compromised over time. Maybe if I had treated it with a proper sealant, after each season of use, it would have retained its repellancy properties, I'm just not sure. I'm still trying other sealant products to find one that works, but until then, I still use our 3 year old Thermo-Suit every day for winter ryding, as long as its dry.​
 
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