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Dangerous road conditions - how do you handle it?

Jibrilll

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So here's the backstory... I was driving down a hill and the lane I was in had extremely rough bumps from the root of a tree busting through the road...

I couldn't see it because the bumps were under the tree and the shade from the tree made it hard to see.

I almost flew off of my Can Am - the wheels were no match for the bumps - but I was lucky to hold on and steer towards the middle of the road.

After this experience I haven't been comfortable riding my Spyder... I'm really sad over it. Every time I drive over a rough patch in the road I feel the loss of control and get anxious...

How do you deal with dangerous road conditions and do you have any similar experiences?
 
Similar except for the hill or tree - FYI it was FLAT

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Traveling within the speed limit 60mph, launched bike & me airborne :yikes: :yikes: landed on shoulder nanny kicking in kept from over controlling & otherwise safely back on my way :shocked: :popcorn: Pull over & inspection. Looked like just another patch no massive ramp or anything. U turn get some pics & information to share & warn buds. Having had fair share (if not more) freaky events just be aware & maybe slow down:thumbup:
 
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I know this is easier to write/say than it is to actually do, but if you truly can't avoid a hazard/obstacle like that, try to keep your arms & shoulders loose & relaxed; and don't lock your hands solidly onto the handgrips in a death grip due to panic! Basically, don't tense up, just let the Spyder, it's suspension, & the Nanny take care of you! :ohyea: :thumbup:

Even without the Nanny, your Spyder is MUCH more stable & capable of handling that sorta stuff than any 2 wheeler, so you just need to let it do that while still gently guiding it in the direction you want to go, without fighting it or trying to brute force it anywhere!! Your main aim should be to look at where you want to GO (& not at what you want to AVOID) while you use your knees/legs to hang on to the Spyder and not letting your upper body &/or tense arms/shoulders plus a death grip on the handlebars feed in anything but gentle directional guidance - the moment you tense up & let that death grip transfer all the negative & unnecessary control input into the handlebars that might come from you getting tossed around like a rag doll is the moment it'll start getting REALLY scary!! :yikes:




This's a saga I know :rolleyes: but please, bear with me for a bit - Very early in my Spyder riding experience, I had reason to discover that while initially travelling at something like 80 mph, the Spyder & the Nanny can & will work phenomenally well together to keep things upright & stable on a suddenly very rough & degraded road surface, even if you savagely haul in HARD on the Right handlebar then immediately reverse that & haul in HARD on the Left handlebar at the same time as slamming on the brakes.... it was an aggressive & extrordinary ask, such that the most important thing for me to do was to use my knees & legs simply to HANG ON so that I wouldn't part company with the Spyder; but between them, the Spyder & the Nanny bundled it all up & managed to keep things upright & both pointing & going where I was aiming! :shocked:

The Police Motorcycle Rider Instructor with a couple of decades of experience who was following me was absolutely astounded; he said afterwards that from the moment the oncoming speeding car lost control on the washed out road surface & spun sideways into my path, the Spyder just seemed to be a living thing that virtually jumped sideways in it's own length to get out of the way of what should've been a really messy & fatal collision. One moment it was tracking straight & true around a gentle uphill curve, and the next it hit the washed out road surface & became this blur of motion in a way that he'd believed was completely impossible for a motorbike of any sort to move; virtually jumping out of the way of the out of control car; first hauling one front wheel a couple of feet into the air then the next grounding that wheel and hauling the other front wheel even higher into the air as it leapt across a lane, moving around & out of the way of this madly spinning car so closely & in such a way that he felt sure it passed UNDER each of the lifted front wheels in turn and then just as quickly, instead of being smashed to smithereens between this car & the hard shoulder barricade, it was all back on three wheels calmly coming to a halt one lane across and just a few feet clear of the spinning car as it slammed into the bank & disintegrated!! :banghead:

Bear in mind that this was very early in my Spyder riding experience, so there was no way it was attributable to any particular skill on my behalf - quick reflexes, maybe; but not any advanced Spyder skill or experience; just sudden & appropriate reactions on the control inputs that the inherent stability of the Spyder and the advanced capabilities of the wonderful suite of stability control systems that we affectionately call the Nanny teamed up with & stepped in to keep things upright & stable, all working to allow the Spyder (with me astride & hanging on with all my might like the rider perched on top of a bucking bronco) to neatly sidestep to avoid an out of control car on a badly degraded road surface!! My take from it was that the Spyder itself and the Nanny will look after you to an extent that'll astound you, IF you'll let it! :lecturef_smilie: Oh, and it did confirm, to me anyway, that adrenalin really IS brown! :opps:

It was pretty much pure fluke in my case ^^, but you can learn a few things from that as I did:

1. you need to hang on tight from the hips down, while being light & loose enough from the hips up so that you don't feed in any control jerks & bumps as you get tossed around;
2. always use a light hand/grip on the handlebars to provide the gentle guidance necessary to to steer down your chosen path; and
3. look where you want to go and not at the things you want to avoid (look at it & you WILL hit it! :banghead: )

Trust your Spyder and the Nanny; cos together, they'll look after you in almost all circumstances if you can stay onboard - altho temper that by remembering that they still can't protect you from your own stupidity, so try to avoid those choices if you can! ;)


And whatever you do, don't forget to.....






Ride More, Worry Less! :ohyea: :yes: :thumbup:
 
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Not being sarcastic, but the best answer is carefully and/or avoid them. How long have you been riding your Spyder? Are you new to riding? Have you taken any courses?
Unfortunately, not all dangers are immediately known while riding. Awareness is a big key. You should enjoy the ride, but also constantly be on the lookout for potential bad situations from the road, drivers, animals, or whatever else is in the environment(including yourself).
Sorry, that your incident has taken your nerves, but I'm glad it didn't end tragically. If you haven't taken the can-am course, I recommend it. Some others do as well. It may help restore your confidence.
 
A good riders course and practice will make things like this easier. This type of incident can put a good scare into a rider for sure. Keep riding and enjoying your bike as this incident will become a faded memory sooner than you think. Do use it as a learning incident and the next time a shady patch with sketchy visibility pops up remember to slow a bit until you can get a good view. I slow for shady spots when I can't see details of the road and this time of year the sun in the late afternoon and early evening gives me fits as well.
 
Similar except for the hill or tree - FYI it was FLAT

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Traveling within the speed limit 60mph, launched bike & me airborne :yikes: :yikes: landed on shoulder nanny kicking in kept from over controlling & otherwise safely back on my way :shocked: :popcorn: Pull over & inspection. Looked like just another patch no massive ramp or anything. U turn get some pics & information to share & warn buds. Having had fair share (if not more) freaky events just be aware & maybe slow down:thumbup:

I have had a couple of these type of launches as I was learning on some of the single lane mountain and valley roads around here in maryland, to remind me as I was learning and warn other drivers I kept a can of spray paint with me so I could mark the area on the road. I took after the cyclist in the area .

If you see the word slow with an up arrow. You know you are coming up on an area that will launch you.
 
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Get back on and Ryde

So here's the backstory... I was driving down a hill and the lane I was in had extremely rough bumps from the root of a tree busting through the road...

I couldn't see it because the bumps were under the tree and the shade from the tree made it hard to see.

I almost flew off of my Can Am - the wheels were no match for the bumps - but I was lucky to hold on and steer towards the middle of the road.

After this experience I haven't been comfortable riding my Spyder... I'm really sad over it. Every time I drive over a rough patch in the road I feel the loss of control and get anxious...

How do you deal with dangerous road conditions and do you have any similar experiences?

First off...Glad you are still doing well.
Ryde and Enjoy your Time. Remember that you can do this.
I had my share of mishaps. Just wanted you to know that we all have been there and done it.

Don't get me wrong. Only you can decide what is good for you. Hopefully you can Ryde and Enjoy again, very soon.

Stay Healthy. ....:thumbup:
 
My opinion would be that you're probably not losing nearly as much control as you think you are. The Spyder isn't going to flip over or get so far out of shape that you're going to have real issues as long as you steer into the direction change. In other words. keeping the front end in front of the rear end. It's really no different for a car other than you have 2 contact patches in the back as opposed to just 1 on the Spyder.

The biggest issue when hitting road patches like this is to stay calm and maximize the control you have left. As in your scenario, it was enough. Short of going off road, this will almost always be good enough. Especially on the Spyder, which is much more forgiving in adverse conditions than 2 wheels.

You can't ride safely if you are riding afraid. Panic will create more issues than it resolves.
 
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Slow down........

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The road to " the lost coast highway" near Fortuna, Ca( Northern Cali, on the coast) is TERRIBLE. 10 or 12 miles of narrow, hills, blind curves, pot holes, washouts, root heaves, and bad pavement. Just had to SLOW DOWN A LOT.
But the road out of Redding is 140 miles of curvy road.

Lew L

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In Law Enforcment we had a term for this .... it was " situational awareness " .... it applied to lots of situations other what you are describing also ..... " stuff happens " - there's NO avoiding everything - Ride like your Life depended on it ..... Because it CAN ..... Mike :thumbup:
 
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My opinion would be that you're probably not losing nearly as much control as you think you are. The Spyder isn't going to flip over or get so far out of shape that you're going to have real issues as long as you steer into the direction change. In other words. keeping the front end in front of the rear end. It's really no different for a car other than you have 2 contact patches in the back as opposed to just 1 on the Spyder.

The biggest issue when hitting road patches like this is to stay calm and maximize the control you have left. As in your scenario, it was enough. Short of going off road, this will almost always be good enough. Especially on the Spyder, which is much more forgiving in adverse conditions than 2 wheels.

You can't ride safely if you are riding afraid. Panic will create more issues than it resolves.

Very well said.
 
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