CVT belt life

[shakin_jake]

More on CVT

To solve the issue prior to getting home, I remove the CVT filter and put a cloth around the CVT intake vent secured by rubber band. Yes, call me macgyver.

~~~I'd call it Hoosier ingenuity= BTW, all my kin is from Goshen, Elkhart (pronounced L-Kart)<LOL>


On a more serious vein, I'm surprised no one has mentioned if their rollers were worn when replacing the CVT belt (Ryker). I've had better than a half dozen CVT scooters through the years starting with the 1985 250cc Honda Elite motor scooter I bought new that year, while still living in Big D (Detroit). Late 85' we moved (me & wifey) to the lower Fla. Keys, and took that scooter with us. Helen had so much fun riding my Elite, when she beat me to it (she was usually 1st outta the house in the mornings), so we bought a 175cc Honda scooter for her. Sorry, but I digress, the point I wanted to make was from memory, every time I replaced a CVT belt,, the rollers in the drive pulley always had flat spots on them, so I replaced them as matter of course. Again, I'm surprised I haven't heard anyone that has replaced the CVT belt in their Ryker, mention replacing the rollers at the same time


Not that anyone asked but my current CVT motorscooter is a 2013 Vespa 300cc GTS. I bought it new in 2014. There's currently 7 K miles on the odometer. I recently replaced the CVT belt(& the rollers) although the factory says to do that @ 9 K miles. I'll admit, I ride that scooter like I stole it. I mean really hard, throttle pinned most of the time and today I rode it back from Gainesville using interstate and I ran it WOT which is 80 +MPH on I-75 southbound. Anyways, the clutch shoes were worn to the metal backing plates in several spots so when I replaced the clutch shoes, I replaced the CVTbelt while I was in there

One more before I go and Helen is screaming at me to make her supper=. I rode a 2002 Honda Silverwing scooter from our Fla. homestead to the mile high mayhem scooter rally in 2004 (Denver CO). At one point I was along on a city ride with others and it was so hilly and my CVTbelt was screeching big time. It was pretty common knowledge that the screech sounds were from the pulley halves gettin a glaze on them. The way to rid the glaze was to brake torque it and sure enough, problem solved


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.

 

[SportsterDoc]

As temperatures begin to heat up. And the Corona Virus restrictions lifted. It will be interesting to see if the 'Smell of Hot Rubber' increases with Ryker owners...

It was over 100F today when I was running errands.

Temp gauge goes to 5 bars within about 1/2 mile of easy riding and stays there.
Radiator fan did not even come on, even after engine was heat saturated, but I was not stopped at signals long.

The coolant-oil heat changer works well for the engine.
Did notice some minor coloring of the CVT filter, whereas the engine filter looks pristine.

No smells.

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

For those of you who want to see what the Ryker CVT looks like.

 

[canamryder]

Here is the full video. CVT part is short and starts at 1' 5". I watch Shawn Smoak every morning with my oatmeal. I suggest watching the full video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6sJJ2zi70E

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

I like when he says "this CVT could power a train". Just makes me think even more that BRP designed the Ryker from day 1 to be offered with the 900ACE turbo engine at some point. Maybe 2021?

 

[shakin_jake]

I like when he says "this CVT could power a train". Just makes me think even more that BRP designed the Ryker from day 1 to be offered with the 900ACE turbo engine at some point. Maybe 2021?

~~~yeah, that is one big honkin driven pulley. The drive pulley looks overbuilt too. So what's this about a 900 turbo engine Rob, is it in any other Can Am platform?


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

~~~yeah, that is one big honkin driven pulley. The drive pulley looks overbuilt too. So what's this about a 900 turbo engine Rob, is it in any other Can Am platform?


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.

The 900 Ace Turbo is used in the snowmobiles, the SXS's and I believe the Sea-doo. It's the same 900 engine that's in the Ryker but it has a turbo and some beefier internals to handle the extra power. In the Snowmobile its rated for 150hp. I'd be happy with 125 in the Ryker. Hell, 105 would be better

 

[shakin_jake]

The 900 Ace Turbo is used in the snowmobiles, the SXS's and I believe the Sea-doo. It's the same 900 engine that's in the Ryker but it has a turbo and some beefier internals to handle the extra power. In the Snowmobile its rated for 150hp. I'd be happy with 125 in the Ryker. Hell, 105 would be better

~~~well that explains my unfamiliarity with the 900cc turbo motor, we don't get to ride snowmobiles here in Fla. <LOL>. It's probably only a matter of time before someone on this list serve bolts the turbo motor into their Ryker. I would imagine had BRP actually sold the Ryker with a 150 HP engine, some of these guys would greatly shorten their lifespan right quick. I only say that from experience, after owning at least one motorcycle I just had to explore its speed potential on public roadways. I knew I had to sell it so I wouldn't kill myself, and I did (sell it). Maybe it's because I'm on the north side of 60, I have a little more sense than I did when I was younger. I'm actually happy with the power my Rally Ryker affords in stock trim


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.

 

[Peter Aawen]

....... I had to sell it so I wouldn't kill myself, and I did (sell it). .......

Jake
Reddick Fla.

Jeez Jake, for a second there I thought you were gonna tell us that you DID kill yourself on that motorcycle!! :shocked:


Glad that's not the case tho! :thumbup:


And I'd still like a 900 ACE Turbo Ryker - or Spyder for that matter! hyea:

 

[chris56]

The 900 Ace Turbo is used in the snowmobiles, the SXS's and I believe the Sea-doo. It's the same 900 engine that's in the Ryker but it has a turbo and some beefier internals to handle the extra power. In the Snowmobile its rated for 150hp. I'd be happy with 125 in the Ryker. Hell, 105 would be better

Rotax buids in the moment 5 different Versions of the 900 Ace (in Austria !!)

https://www.rotax.com/de/rotax-motoren.html#2

 

[shakin_jake]

Jeez Jake, for a second there I thought you were gonna tell us that you DID kill yourself on that motorcycle!! :shocked:


Glad that's not the case tho! :thumbup:


And I'd still like a 900 ACE Turbo Ryker - or Spyder for that matter! hyea:

~~~Thnk you Peter, for being glad I'm alive and not dead<LOL>


Best,


Jake
Reddick Fla.
Good restaurants are, of course, nothing but mouth-brothels. There is no point in going to them if one intends to keep one's belt buckled. -Frederic Raphael

 

[RykerUSA]

I am now on my 3rd belt. In changing out the 1st 2 belts, the used belts looked in great shape. Accordingly, I decided to change belt once per season. I now have over 15,000 miles on this year's belt. Absolutely no issue so far. I will probably put on 2,000 more miles this season before changing it out.. I'll let you know what the useed belt looks like when I do so.

 

[canamryder]

I am now on my 3rd belt. In changing out the 1st 2 belts, the used belts looked in great shape. Accordingly, I decided to change belt once per season. I now have over 15,000 miles on this year's belt. Absolutely no issue so far. I will probably put on 2000 more miles this season before changing it out.. I'll let you know what the useed belt looks like when I do so.

I'll soon be checking and maybe changing my belt, approaching 12,000, 7/'19 purchase. I'm wondering what measurements you are getting on your worn belts. My new belt measures .050 larger than the 1.445 measurement shown in the picture below. With a .050 tolerance, I'm thinking of changing mine if it's in the lower 20% of the tolerance. Of coarse I'll change it sooner if I see questionable wear. Also wondering if the narrower they get, the faster they wear. (kinda doubt it)

 

[RykerUSA]

I do not have a precise measuring instrument. So, I cannot tell you the width of my belt when replaced.

 

[Mikey]

I think you guys will find out that if you don't drive like a fool, and try to smoke the rear tire every time you take off, your belts will hold up better than you think, sort of like the valve adjustment recommendations BRP puts put there! I have had sleds for years and can tell you, be careful using aftermarket belts unless you want to watch your clutch faces close for a while until you have tried a few to see what kind of wear your getting on those faces, some belts are built with harder compounds, hence the wear!

Some would say that with a new belt you should put it thru some heat cycles, starts should be soft, and be easy on the right hand for the first 200 miles!! Does it make a difference, some times I think so, but there are a few things that play into that, like belt alignment, and tension! Yes guys, even the cvt set up has tension also, anyone with a sled will tell you that!

The hard part of running the Ryker till the belt starts to act up is that most likely you may be sitting beside the road looking for a ride, because when they go, some slip, some get flat spots, and feels like a flat tire and some blow up and leave you hands full of little rubber nubs and cords!!! So, like a friend of mine once said, never deprive yourself for learning things the hard way!!

Can you go more than 12000 miles on a belt , maybe so, but if you are not the kind of person that wants to check it out every now and then, and like burning tires, maybe you should just do it!! Good luck !!

 

[canamryder]

I think you guys will find out that if you don't drive like a fool, and try to smoke the rear tire every time you take off, your belts will hold up better than you think, sort of like the valve adjustment recommendations BRP puts put there! I have had sleds for years and can tell you, be careful using aftermarket belts unless you want to watch your clutch faces close for a while until you have tried a few to see what kind of wear your getting on those faces, some belts are built with harder compounds, hence the wear!

Some would say that with a new belt you should put it thru some heat cycles, starts should be soft, and be easy on the right hand for the first 200 miles!! Does it make a difference, some times I think so, but there are a few things that play into that, like belt alignment, and tension! Yes guys, even the cvt set up has tension also, anyone with a sled will tell you that!

The hard part of running the Ryker till the belt starts to act up is that most likely you may be sitting beside the road looking for a ride, because when they go, some slip, some get flat spots, and feels like a flat tire and some blow up and leave you hands full of little rubber nubs and cords!!! So, like a friend of mine once said, never deprive yourself for learning things the hard way!!

Can you go more than 12000 miles on a belt , maybe so, but if you are not the kind of person that wants to check it out every now and then, and like burning tires, maybe you should just do it!! Good luck !!

No YouTube style burnouts here, maybe about 7 short "chirps" in 12,000 miles. I mostly just cruise county roads. My Garmin shows about 35 mph avg. when I'm back home. Ya, I pick it up to 60 mph every so often. I bought an original BRP belt. I'll lift the clam up and turn on the tunes on a nice(?)rainy weekend. Just gotta remember to stop topping off the fuel tank. I use to work as a mechanical QC inspector, so I'll be quite critical while checking the belt. When I "hammer" it's when I'm on my Cervelo bike. Then I relax while on the Rally. I'm 69 years old.

 

[Sarge707]

I now have 3 miles till 12,000 So I find out if its by mileage soon!