Confessions of a former Rotella user

[sabunim5]

Warning. In past threads I told others that if they were going to use Rotella oil they needed to be sure and buy the blue bottle and not the white. The blue bottle is NO LONGER SAFE. :yikes: The blue bottle now has an SM rating which is a no-no for use in the Spyder. It is back to BRP oil for me unless I can find a cheaper 5w40 that meets all the required specs. Ryde Safe and Enjoy:thumbup:
sabunim5 :doorag:

 

[bjt]

My last oil change, I put in Amsoil 0W-40. I figured I would be doing a lot of cold weather riding. The snow and ice haven't been cooperating with me.

Its not any cheaper but I haven't been using BRP oil ever since the first oil change. Either Spectro Blue or Gold or the Amsoil. Spectro Blue is cheaper than BRP oil but doesn't come in 5W-40, only 10W-40, and thats what my dealer uses in all their oil changes. Spyder, sportbike, cruiser, Seadoo, Skidoo, go karts, mopeds, etc.

 

[SpyderByter]

Go here and check out the specs for Castrol Syntec 5w40

It is what I used for my first oil change

http://www.castrolsyntec.com/grades.aspx

If this is a problem, I would like to know now. It is not cheap, about $7 a quart, but it is readily available. My dealer did not have BRP oil.

There is a deal right now at advance auto in my area. 5 quarts for $30 plus a Fram filter for your auto.

 

[sleepman]

I've put the Castrol in mine as well. It meets the recommended specs from BRP so you shouldn't have any issues.

 

[SpyderByter]

Here is the flyer:

http://advanceauto.shoplocal.com/ad...gle&storeid=2371552&rapid=625869&pagenumber=4

 

[bjt]

Somebody threw a statement out here once that Castrol was the maker of BRP's oil. I don't recall that it was ever confirmed. :dontknow:

 

[Donzo]

When was the SM added - this is a diesel truck oil and SM would not work for them either....?

 

[BRPjunkie]

Is the stuff at Advance Auto Castrol Syntek for cars? Does anyone use Castrol sythetic for cycles? I do believe that someone did trace the BRP oil to Castrol as the maker.

 

[SpyderByter]

It is not specifically made for bikes, but the 5w-40 specs match BRP's. Make sure you check because I noticed other viscositys have friction modifiers.

 

[SpyderByter]

When was the SM added - this is a diesel truck oil and SM would not work for them either....?

I think you were looking at the specs for 10w40. look at the 5w40. i don't see SM there.

 

[cdragut]

I think you were looking at the specs for 10w40. look at the 5w40. i don't see SM there.

you are right... went and checked the blue 5w40... no SM to be found on the labels!
i use it in the goldwing, and the c50 with no problems...

 

[Spydyr]

Warning. In past threads I told others that if they were going to use Rotella oil they needed to be sure and buy the blue bottle and not the white. The blue bottle is NO LONGER SAFE. :yikes: The blue bottle now has an SM rating which is a no-no for use in the Spyder. It is back to BRP oil for me unless I can find a cheaper 5w40 that meets all the required specs. Ryde Safe and Enjoy:thumbup:
sabunim5 :doorag:

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework...l/iwgen/products/product_rotellasynthcj4.html
I visited Shell's website and they list the blue bottle of 5W40 as having an API SM rating, along with several others! Makes it kind of confusing because it is designed to work in so many applications.

 

[Spydyr]

This is directly from the service manual.
"Use BRP XP-S 5W-40 synthetic oil(P/N 293 600 039) or an equivalent motorcycle oil meeting the requirements for API service SL, SJ, SH, or SG classification. Always check the API service label on the oil container." and

"NOTICE To avoid damaging the clutch, do not use a motor oil meeting the API service SM or ILSAC GF-4 classification. Clutch slippage will occurs."

Will occurs is their grammr error not mine.

 

[Lamonster]

This is directly from the service manual.
"Use BRP XP-S 5W-40 synthetic oil(P/N 293 600 039) or an equivalent motorcycle oil meeting the requirements for API service SL, SJ, SH, or SG classification. Always check the API service label on the oil container." and

"NOTICE To avoid damaging the clutch, do not use a motor oil meeting the API service SM or ILSAC GF-4 classification. Clutch slippage will occurs."

Will occurs is their grammr error not mine.

In my case they were correct.:sour:

 

[SpyderByter]

One thing i learned on my other bikes that had wet clutches:

Even when using conventional oil I always look at the seal on the back (API Rating) I don't quite understand the alphabet soup of letter classifications, but if you look at this sight, and on the back of oil bottles, you will see a circle. If the bottom half says "energy conserving" it has friction modifiers and should not be used with a wet clutch.

The same holds true for the bottles of Castrol Syntec I checked out.

http://www.aa1car.com/library/api_motor_oil_classifications.htm