Cluster update and temp readings after- time to eat some crow

[Rando]

Only the 2011 models are affected. Maybe his 2010 Spyder had a 2011 throttle body upgrade?

 

[1551retired]

Only the 2011 models are affected. Maybe his 2010 Spyder had a 2011 throttle body upgrade?

Lamont, is this the case?

 

[Lamonster]

Only the 2011 models are affected. Maybe his 2010 Spyder had a 2011 throttle body upgrade?

The 2010 do not need or can use the upgrade because they still have the potential for the hot start issue. I may have had that problem a time or two in 30K+ but it hasn't been a real problem on my 2010. This is not something that can be retrofitted to the 2010 from what I understand and I'm not sure I would care to have it done if it could seeing this is not a big problem.

 

[Lamonster]

:agree: I would much rather have a water temp gauge than a bar graph. It is what it is and that's why we mod our Spyders right? :doorag:

 

[docdoru]

 

[docdoru]

Doc, do your data points correspond to bars 3, 4, 5, and 6?

4, 5 fan, 5 fan off, 4. opcorn:

 

[lightman02]

I did connect the factory controller back and bars on cluster still went up fast and fan came on same at 5 bars but went to 6 bars a few time (never seen 6 bars in two years I have had my Spyder). I did not know what this update was till it was done and if I knew I would have not let them do it, I was there in the first place to have the belt tension checked.
I thought since it's BRP I should not have to worry if they will do something to my Spyder after all they are the manufacture and we should be able to trust them to properly test these things out, but guess what we can't.

All they did was change the way the cluster displays the temp information. So you may now have a 6th bar displaying when your may normally have 5. You fan controller is going to read from the same sensor that it was reading from before, there is no change in that data. So disconnecting the controllers isn't goign to do anything, thats not how it works. The only thing they did was change what bars display for certain temp readouts. Putting it simply, it's an eye candy change, it's a visual display change for the cluster nothing more. Your heat is a couse of something else, maybee your exhaust wrap is degrading?? If you want PM me and I'll give you a call if you want me to expain how these things work. More then happy to try to halp you out.

 

[Arch]

I sincerely hope that this "update" doesn't get shoved down our throats, like the junk that was buried in the DPS recall update. It would be nice to have a choice, instead of having this automatically downloaded to our machines when BUDS was hooked up. Gee, you would have thought BRP's programmers would have learned their lessons the first time they buried extra code in a fix. :gaah:

No such luck, had mine in for 12,000 mile service got it back and runs 5 bars all the time now and won't go lower. Never knew they where going to do a software update. So here we go again with the software junk being just thrown at us and not being informed about it, BRP GUINEA PIGS.

 

[arntufun]

So updating the odometer messes with the temp gauge. What kind of people work at BRP ???

Whats next, an 02 sensor update changing the shocks ???

Is there a way to just get the odometer update not these other files that BRP trys to sneak in without customers knowing ???

 

[RoadHammer]

So updating the odometer messes with the temp gauge. What kind of people work at BRP ???

Whats next, an 02 sensor update changing the shocks ???

Is there a way to just get the odometer update not these other files that BRP trys to sneak in without customers knowing ???

When buds is hooked to update i don't think there is any choice. I got used to the temp bars right away, no big deal for me.:thumbup:

 

[BajaRon]

No such luck, had mine in for 12,000 mile service got it back and runs 5 bars all the time now and won't go lower. Never knew they where going to do a software update. So here we go again with the software junk being just thrown at us and not being informed about it, BRP GUINEA PIGS.

Not to pick on this post but just using is as an example of what seems to be a prevelant perspective.

Personally, I just can't understand the big deal here. I agree it would be nice if BRP would give us all the ingredients in their latest soup, but beyond that, this is really a non-issue when you apply the facts.

1 Bar - No Change
2 Bars - No Change
3 Bars - Comes on at a lower temperature
4 Bars - Comes on at a lower temperature
5 Bars - Comes on at a slightly lower temperature
6 Bars - No Change
7 Bars - No Change

Actual engine operating temperature - NO CHANGE

So what if we have to adjust to our 'NEW' Normal. My old normal was 3/4 bars, now my new normal is 4/5 bars. Ok, so what? My actual operating temperature is UNCHANGED and that is the important factor here.

Let me put it like this. If BRP had gone the other way, 4 bars now reading 3 bars, 5 bars now reading 4 bars, etc., how many would be upset? No change in your actual coolant temperature mind you, just the psychological impact of a lower reading on your temperature gauge.

I can tell you that people would be RAVING about how much cooler their Spyder was running after this GLORIOUS BRP update. How they aren’t getting nearly as much heat on their right foot as before and that everyone should run down and get it done to their Spyder.

And for the life of me, I don’t know why BRP didn’t do it that way. But we know that engineers are locked in the ridged world of reality, with no concept of how a visual change can impact the average person.

Don’t let the new gauge readings mess with your head. Adapt and enjoy! Nothing has changed except when and were the little cubes show up on your panel. You can handle this!

 

[NancysToy]

Hee hee! "Sonny, I'm so old I remember when motorcycles didn't even have temperature gauges."

Like Ron said, forget it and ride...unless limp mode rears its ugly head.

 

[RoadHammer]

Not to pick on this post but just using is as an example of what seems to be a prevelant perspective.

Personally, I just can't understand the big deal here. I agree it would be nice if BRP would give us all the ingredients in their latest soup, but beyond that, this is really a non-issue when you apply the facts.

1 Bar - No Change
2 Bars - No Change
3 Bars - Comes on at a lower temperature
4 Bars - Comes on at a lower temperature
5 Bars - Comes on at a slightly lower temperature
6 Bars - No Change
7 Bars - No Change

Actual engine operating temperature - NO CHANGE

So what if we have to adjust to our 'NEW' Normal. My old normal was 3/4 bars, now my new normal is 4/5 bars. Ok, so what? My actual operating temperature is UNCHANGED and that is the important factor here.

Let me put it like this. If BRP had gone the other way, 4 bars now reading 3 bars, 5 bars now reading 4 bars, etc., how many would be upset? No change in your actual coolant temperature mind you, just the psychological impact of a lower reading on your temperature gauge.

I can tell you that people would be RAVING about how much cooler their Spyder was running after this GLORIOUS BRP update. How they aren’t getting nearly as much heat on their right foot as before and that everyone should run down and get it done to their Spyder.

And for the life of me, I don’t know why BRP didn’t do it that way. But we know that engineers are locked in the ridged world of reality, with no concept of how a visual change can impact the average person.

Don’t let the new gauge readings mess with your head. Adapt and enjoy! Nothing has changed except when and were the little cubes show up on your panel. You can handle this!

I agree.. Any level headed humanoid should be able to handle this..... do like i did, like the song says "keep on ridin"

 

[BajaRon]

Hee hee! "Sonny, I'm so old I remember when motorcycles didn't even have temperature gauges."

Like Ron said, forget it and ride...unless limp mode rears its ugly head.

I rode a lot of bikes where you were lucky to get an idiot light for low oil pressure on the speedometer.

Tachometers were a BIG Deal and only came on some premium motorcycles.

Fuel gauge? Who needed it? When your bike started to sputter just lean over and turn the valve to 'Reserve'.

I remember the feeling when I would reach down and discover that the valve was already on Reserve! What kind of Idiot would forget to turn that stupid valve back when they got fuel?! :gaah:

 

[docdoru]

7 Bars - No Change

I have a question: how you get the Spyder to "old style" 7 bars? :shocked:

 

[boborgera]

I remember the feeling when I would reach down and discover that the valve was already on Reserve! What kind of Idiot would forget to turn that stupid valve back when they got fuel?! :gaah:

Hey, Whats the sense of being Stupid if you don't show it every now and then. Believe me i've done that a few times in the olden days.:roflblack:
And not so long ago on my ATV, Don't you hate walking on the side of the road with a gas can in hand ?:yikes:

 

[canam9]

I rode a lot of bikes where you were lucky to get an idiot light for low oil pressure on the speedometer.

Tachometers were a BIG Deal and only came on some premium motorcycles.

Fuel gauge? Who needed it? When your bike started to sputter just lean over and turn the valve to 'Reserve'.

I remember the feeling when I would reach down and discover that the valve was already on Reserve! What kind of Idiot would forget to turn that stupid valve back when they got fuel?! :gaah:

:agree::agree::roflblack:

 

[Firefly]

People are making way too big a deal out of all this. It's an update we'll all end up with eventually- and I'll bet the new models come with it already.

The owner need not worry about the bars at all - if the spyder gets too hot it will go into limp mode before and damage occurs.

There's also now some confusion since a totally different RT only update has entered this thread- totally unrelated to the GS/RS cluster update.

Just ride the darn things already!