ceramic coating

[Magdave]

Jet hot will not coat "used" pipes on the inside, unless I've been told wrong. I have been checking with speed shops to see about getting mine done and they are telling me they will only coat the outside on used pipes. (I have not contacted Jet Hot yet)

I did say inside and out with my request and mentioned 2k miles on them but am not sure might be worth asking them. Even just outside would be a big improvement. I am on the fence opcorn:

 

[Bob Denman]

My head hurts from trying to make sense of all of this information... :shocked:
It's gonna take some time to soak in!
Thanks for all of the legwork in tracking down the answers! :thumbup:

 

[jcthorne]

My experience with Jet Hot is that for new parts they apply a good product that does help prevent corrosion and keep things looking nice. For used parts, the longevity is much reduced and subject to flaking or peeling. Yes they will recoat if you want to do the work to remove and send back....it will chip again. If you are looking for insulation properties to help with cooling the engine bay, keep looking as they provide very minimal reduction in heat transfer or surface temps. The heat wrap does a MUCH better job of heat reduction.

 

[johnwinslow]

well with all that has been discussed, I do not think, for our little twins, we should coat or tape our stainless exhaust, what we need to do is evacuate the hot air as fast as possible, and insulate the parts that are getting hot from the pipes. I replaced my stock air box with a different filter, what is still in my :spyder2:is the air tube from the front, I think I shall install a high cfm fan on that tube to cause some air flow when I am going slow or stopped. I will let you know how it goes. I have a 2011 RTS, I have removed the bottom panels and have the block off plate, and really appreciate some of the heat in the fall and spring here in Maine. so I will probably wire the fan with a switch or thermostat.

 

[CCPcoatings]

My experience with Jet Hot is that for new parts they apply a good product that does help prevent corrosion and keep things looking nice. For used parts, the longevity is much reduced and subject to flaking or peeling. Yes they will recoat if you want to do the work to remove and send back....it will chip again. If you are looking for insulation properties to help with cooling the engine bay, keep looking as they provide very minimal reduction in heat transfer or surface temps. The heat wrap does a MUCH better job of heat reduction.

If you're past bad experience is with jet-hot and used parts, I would venture to say that had more to do with Jet Hot being bought and sold so much and a lot to do with why jet hot filed for bankruptcy and screwed creditors to the tune of 950 million dollars. They have since been bought out of receivership by a holding company.

Generally speaking, it makes NO DIFFERENCE whether you are ceramic coating a new or used pipe. The only caveat to this is if you are dealing with a SEVERELY rust damaged part, i.e. a very porous part like old cast iron manifolds or old rust damaged / pitted headers. In some of these cases you could potentially see some rust bleed through at some point in the future because it has permeated through the substrate. This is pretty rare though......

 

[CCPcoatings]

well with all that has been discussed, I do not think, for our little twins, we should coat or tape our stainless exhaust, what we need to do is evacuate the hot air as fast as possible, and insulate the parts that are getting hot from the pipes. I replaced my stock air box with a different filter, what is still in my :spyder2:is the air tube from the front, I think I shall install a high cfm fan on that tube to cause some air flow when I am going slow or stopped. I will let you know how it goes. I have a 2011 RTS, I have removed the bottom panels and have the block off plate, and really appreciate some of the heat in the fall and spring here in Maine. so I will probably wire the fan with a switch or thermostat.

So you're primary issues are melted panels? At what points?

 

[jcthorne]

If you're past bad experience is with jet-hot and used parts, I would venture to say that had more to do with Jet Hot being bought and sold so much and a lot to do with why jet hot filed for bankruptcy and screwed creditors to the tune of 950 million dollars. They have since been bought out of receivership by a holding company.

Generally speaking, it makes NO DIFFERENCE whether you are ceramic coating a new or used pipe. The only caveat to this is if you are dealing with a SEVERELY rust damaged part, i.e. a very porous part like old cast iron manifolds or old rust damaged / pitted headers. In some of these cases you could potentially see some rust bleed through at some point in the future because it has permeated through the substrate. This is pretty rare though......

My first hand experience was with Jet Hot 2 yrs ago. It was on SS exhaust for my GT. Black ceramic. After 2 tries at recoat I gave up. Sanded the pipes and used VHT high temp black header paint. Has lasted 6 months without chipping so far.
I had previous experience with the bright silver coating on new parts that lasted fine.

 

[CCPcoatings]

My first hand experience was with Jet Hot 2 yrs ago. It was on SS exhaust for my GT. Black ceramic. After 2 tries at recoat I gave up. Sanded the pipes and used VHT high temp black header paint. Has lasted 6 months without chipping so far.
I had previous experience with the bright silver coating on new parts that lasted fine.

What was happening to it that they had to keep re-coating it?

 

[Jeriatric]

what we need to do is evacuate the hot air as fast as possible, and insulate the parts that are getting hot from the pipes.

:agree:

 

[OldCowboy]

Frankly, I fail to see how a thin coating of anything can help. I would like to see a report by an unbiased source on the relative thermal merits of ceramic coatings vs. wraps.

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Frankly, I fail to see how a thin coating of anything can help. I would like to see a report by an unbiased source on the relative thermal merits of ceramic coatings vs. wraps.

All you can really go on is user reports, since none of us are trying to sell anything. Even in labs you can't replicate the Spyder environments. Most tests I've read about heat two or three pipes on a bench and measure surface temperatures. They then conclude nothing was gained, because the heat eventually radiates through. That just doesn't account for anything in Spyder world. It doesn't account for heat being distributed over a surface, instead of one spot and certainly no account for how air movement can impact the surface and distributed heat.

I can say for sure the wrapping works on my RT in a big way. The muffler is also way hotter than before, though I have not measured it. I can definitely feel the difference getting near it though, than before wrapping.


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