ceramic coating

[cuznjohn]

does ceramic coating really help in dropping temps on the pipes, if so how hard is it to remove the header and pipes from the bike, does the engine need to be pulled or can it be done by just stripping the Tupperware. i was just looking at a few sites about it and i am not sure if it is done for looks or for heat problems. also is the gas tank removable w/o doing much work, because if the bike is having so many problems would it be worth to do it.

 

[Magdave]

Yes it works and you do not need to pull the engine. It will reduce but not eliminate the heat

http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php?topic=46025.0

And here are temp readings to confirm
http://www.centuryperformance.com/exhaust-header-heat-wraps-do-not-use.html

 

[cuznjohn]

interesting

it is interesting but is it worth doing.

 

[Magdave]

it is interesting but is it worth doing.

Some people on Spyders have done it . BRP probably should have done it on the RT at least IMHO. There would not have been any melting problems. They cheaped out and gave us tinfoil.

 

[Magdave]

I would only recommend the jet hots inside and out coating.

 

[Bob Denman]

John, With the issues that you and others have been having; I would say that it is worth serious consideration! :thumbup:

 

[crazyspyder]

YES

:bowdown:yeah it helps a lot, my opinion that is. I took off all the sides Tupperware and used DEI titanium HT silicon spray and sprayed without taking any plumbing off - you'll get some over spray but don't think its that bad. also make sure to spray at least 3 coats and let dry for 10m. or use heat gun between coats. I went an extra step and use their DEI titanium wrap strap to the exposed pipes especially on the left side near gas tank....and used DEI foil tape around Tupperware and gas tank area.:firstplace:

 

[johnwinslow]

I would like to see some pictures of that it is a long cold winter here in Maine and I was thinking this would be worth doing

 

[crazyspyder]

wrapped

I would like to see some pictures of that it is a long cold winter here in Maine and I was thinking this would be worth doing

search in this forum for exhaust wrapping 2 , under midlifecrises member -he has pictures ! I will post some of my own at the end of the week. :ani29: in shop ...:banghead:

 

[SNOOPY]

:bowdown:yeah it helps a lot, my opinion that is. I took off all the sides Tupperware and used DEI titanium HT silicon spray and sprayed without taking any plumbing off - you'll get some over spray but don't think its that bad. also make sure to spray at least 3 coats and let dry for 10m. or use heat gun between coats. I went an extra step and use their DEI titanium wrap strap to the exposed pipes especially on the left side near gas tank....and used DEI foil tape around Tupperware and gas tank area.:firstplace:

Does this spray smell after to start your Spyder the first few times?

I remember exhaust sprays of the past having a really bad smell for a while after application.

 

[wetmountainman]

Quote from frank3 on 8/07/2013... "FYI, removed both headers 2 years ago on my 2010 RT-S, had them ceramic coated. Coating didn't make much of a difference so this year I removed the headers again and wrapped them in 1" with a much better reduction in heat. Don't bother with the ceramic JMO. "

 

[SNOOPY]

Quote from frank3 on 8/07/2013... "FYI, removed both headers 2 years ago on my 2010 RT-S, had them ceramic coated. Coating didn't make much of a difference so this year I removed the headers again and wrapped them in 1" with a much better reduction in heat. Don't bother with the ceramic JMO. "

Wow that was an expensive lesson.


I wonder how the "wraps" affect performance?


Or is it "effects", I always get them mixed up. :roflblack:

 

[wetmountainman]

Question: Does fully wrapping the exhaust pipes create any adverse problems to the pipes, or to engine performance. Someone mentioned possible problems with the pipes briefly in another post but I can't find it now. I know I've seen a lot of motorcycles with fully wrapped pipes, but I never thought about that creating problems.

 

[crazyspyder]

it does works !

Does this spray smell after to start your Spyder the first few times?

I remember exhaust sprays of the past having a really bad smell for a while after application.

:thumbup: No / yes , a slight odor for a few hours - then goes away. not bad at all ! I can only vouch for the DEI brand thought- I have used other ceramic sprays and they zucked n smelled. racing enthusiast use titanium ceramic coatings as of to date, SO yeah they do work. just don't expect a header to be cold at high rpm. I used 2'' titanium heat wrap I conjuction with ceramic coatings.:firstplace:and my :f_spider: Tupperware stays decently cooler.

 

[SNOOPY]

:thumbup: No / yes , a slight odor for a few hours - then goes away. not bad at all ! I can only vouch for the DEI brand thought- I have used other ceramic sprays and they zucked n smelled. racing enthusiast use titanium ceramic coatings as of to date, SO yeah they do work. just don't expect a header to be cold at high rpm. I used 2'' titanium heat wrap I conjuction with ceramic coatings.:firstplace:and my :f_spider: Tupperware stays decently cooler.

So your header pipes are fully wrapped and no adverse engine effects? Just asking.

 

[PW2013STL]

Motorcycle Consumer News did a write up on the new Indian motorcycles and they wrote

"To prevent the exhaust headers from generating uncomfortable temperatures close to the rider's right leg, both headers are ceramic coated, which can reduce their radiated heat by as much as 130*"

:agree:The last set of headers that helped reduce the heat on my right leg on my 2011 Harley was ceramic coated inside and out, so I know it helps.

 

[crazyspyder]

So your header pipes are fully wrapped and no adverse engine effects? Just asking.

//hyea: none whatsoever and no warranty issues.:spyder:

 

[CCPcoatings]

RE: Ceramic Coating

does ceramic coating really help in dropping temps on the pipes, if so how hard is it to remove the header and pipes from the bike, does the engine need to be pulled or can it be done by just stripping the Tupperware. i was just looking at a few sites about it and i am not sure if it is done for looks or for heat problems. also is the gas tank removable w/o doing much work, because if the bike is having so many problems would it be worth to do it.

What kind of issues are you experiencing?

 

[CCPcoatings]

Ceramic Coating Can Am Spyder Exhaust

Question: Does fully wrapping the exhaust pipes create any adverse problems to the pipes, or to engine performance. Someone mentioned possible problems with the pipes briefly in another post but I can't find it now. I know I've seen a lot of motorcycles with fully wrapped pipes, but I never thought about that creating problems.

If you're wrapping Stainless Steel or TI pipes you don't have much to worry about. The biggest problem arises when wrapping mild steel and or chrome pipes. The wrap tends to hold a lot of moisture in which accelerates corrosion (see below). If they are mild steel, you'll need to coat them first. Beyond that, wraps are pretty effective thermal barriers so long as you keep them clean and oil free.

 

[OWISE1]

Do Not Wrap

Wow that was an expensive lesson.


I wonder how the "wraps" affect performance?


Or is it "effects", I always get them mixed up. :roflblack:

Look here for wraps....http://www.centuryperformance.com/exhaust-header-heat-wraps-do-not-use.html....opcorn: