Carlo said in regards to the drive belt..

[scudrunner]

I'm taking my RT-S in for it's 600 mile check this week. I have a list of items for them to check including the drive belt bulletin. I am taking it upon myself to be knowledgeable about my equipment and not relying on someone else. I've had to do this from the first day I picked up my Spyder. There is no one who has my best interest at heart than me.

 

[Firefly]

I'm taking my RT-S in for it's 600 mile check this week. I have a list of items for them to check including the drive belt bulletin. I am taking it upon myself to be knowledgeable about my equipment and not relying on someone else. I've had to do this from the first day I picked up my Spyder. There is no one who has my best interest at heart than me.

:agree::thumbup:

 

[mxz600]

At 1200 it's not in spec anymore. The new spec is 450N + or - 100N. These dealers need to get their :cus: together.

I thought 450N + or - 150N was the correct spec on the actual Service Bulletin?

That could be Scotty. I'm just going by the email I had. Either way, 100 or 150 + or -, I don't believe 1200 would still be within spec.

 

[Smylinacha]

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"Live in such a way that you would not be ashamed to sell your parrot to the town gossip. " ~Will Rogers

 

[RoadHammer]

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:2thumbs:

 

[Sarge707]

The Verdict

Went for my belt tension adjustment. Got there 3/4 hour early to let the hub cool. Took me right on time.
I asked them to tell me orginal and try to take it down to the upper level of the New ##.
He came out 25 minutes latter and said they had it at 1050 or about 245Lbs. He lowered it to 600 or about 145 Lbs.
Thats a Large difference and everyone should have it done ? IMHO

I asked if it was covered and he said "No Problem!" So I put on my helmet and drove off,

THE BRP VERDICT--:roflblack:
When I got home my answering machine was taking a message?:yikes:

I opened the door and played it Back---:dontknow:

" Mr. Sarge regarding your request about the belt tension Warranty check--ray: BRP DOES NOT and WILL NOT Warranty any adjustment of this sort!@!" "Talk to your dealer about any future concerns in this area?"
Her name was KIM@!!!!!:lecturef_smilie:

 

[Firefly]

Went for my belt tension adjustment. Got there 3/4 hour early to let the hub cool. Took me right on time.
I asked them to tell me orginal and try to take it down to the upper level of the New ##.
He came out 25 minutes latter and said they had it at 1050 or about 245Lbs. He lowered it to 600 or about 145 Lbs.
Thats a Large difference and everyone should have it done ? IMHO

I asked if it was covered and he said "No Problem!" So I put on my helmet and drove off,

THE BRP VERDICT--:roflblack:
When I got home my answering machine was taking a message?:yikes:

I opened the door and played it Back---:dontknow:

" Mr. Sarge regarding your request about the belt tension Warranty check--ray: BRP DOES NOT and WILL NOT Warranty any adjustment of this sort!@!" "Talk to your dealer about any future concerns in this area?"
Her name was KIM@!!!!!:lecturef_smilie:

So 600 would equate to around 145 lbs using something like the kricket. :thumbup:

How's the ride seem? I know Brian and Deb seemed to like theirs.

 

[bone crusher]

So 600 would equate to around 145 lbs using something like the kricket. :thumbup:

How's the ride seem? I know Brian and Deb seemed to like theirs.

1 Newton = .224 pounds...at least this is what we use to compare when we deal with studies that discuss pressures on the body....should be the same...

 

[wyliec]

So 600 would equate to around 145 lbs using something like the kricket. :thumbup:

How's the ride seem? I know Brian and Deb seemed to like theirs.

I had mine readjusted Saturday and I didn't notice any smoother ride. The CHAD's movement is as much as it has ever been.

 

[NancysToy]

So 600 would equate to around 145 lbs using something like the kricket. :thumbup:

How's the ride seem? I know Brian and Deb seemed to like theirs.

1 Newton = .224 pounds...at least this is what we use to compare when we deal with studies that discuss pressures on the body....should be the same...

Don't be certain...until you can get a comparision between the sonic and the krickit. While the above conversion is true (actually 1 Newton = 0.2248089 pounds force), the kricket may read something different altogether, due to the vast difference in measuring methods. You do not want to accidentally set your belt tension way too low, just because you assumed it was a direct conversion.

 

[Firefly]

Don't be certain...until you can get a comparision between the sonic and the krickit. While the above conversion is true (actually 1 Newton = 0.2248089 pounds force), the kricket may read something different altogether, due to the vast difference in measuring methods. You do not want to accidentally set your belt tension way too low, just because you assumed it was a direct conversion.

I really wanted to check Brian's or Deb's with my krickit--- but I forgot.

I guess some have been able to do sonic readings using computer software also--- but can't find much info on it.

Someone at Cuba (I think it was Wheeler) said that in Daytona his was checked and it only read 1 Newton--- it was that loose. :yikes:

 

[kytten]

I took my Spyder in on Friday last week and the way they explained it to me was that they would do the belt check during normal maintenance for no charge and if I wanted it done outside normal maintenance that they would charge me for it.

I checked the mileage and was right around the mileage needed for the first maintenance check so they did mine for no additional charge. When I got my bill I checked it carefully and I was charged for the oil change and labor -- and several warranty and maintenance items were listed at $0.

I also did feel more comfortable driving it after the change, it was a smoother ride to me (less vibration) and also it seemed that the downshifting was less jarring.

As for what BRP should do -- I see a lot of valid points here, but whether this large corporation is going to listen to a few users is another thing entirely. So far as I've seen in the past 6 months they don't seem to be willing to do much of that.

I agree with those that say it's really up to the dealer to have your back. But at the same time, the dealer is in it for money too. it's kind of a delicate balance between making the money and keeping the customer happy.

I didn't and don't like my dealer's response about what they'd make me pay for and what they wouldn't. What if I wasn't due for another service for a couple thousand miles? Does that mean I should drive on outdated spec and possibly damage a vehicle that I paid a lot of money for? As it is, it appears I was out of spec on several warranty related updates despite the fact that my dealer uncrated and built my bike new last fall. Apparently no updates were done at that point before letting me take it home. These things annoy me and make me want to look for another dealership. When I told my service department my feelings on the subject I was told that their way of doing things was 'standard' and the same for all companies, not just BRP.

All this run around is putting my boyfriend (who has been considering buying a Spyder since I bought mine) in a mood to look at OTHER vendors and other dealers when he goes to buy his motorcycle later this year.

 

[Sarge707]

So 600 would equate to around 145 lbs using something like the kricket. :thumbup:

How's the ride seem? I know Brian and Deb seemed to like theirs.

Actually I,m wrong . Scottys right 1050= 235 600=134 My base # was off!

I noticed LESS vibration as I blew by a Semi at 95 on the way home!:roflblack:
Seemed to be a looser song to it?
I,m going to buy a Kriket, Torque wrench and 36mm socket soon and will test it in the next several days (Jacking under frame-Not swing arm!)
Hopefully I can do the test by the book and give you a comparison.ray:

 

[Questions]

belt tension

I just called my dealer in AUS asked him about the belt tension and they told me that it only applies only to the RT.This doesnt sound right.Could someone confirm this.I tried to access the bossweb page with no luck.
Thankyou in advance.
Eric

 

[Vordak]

Belt adjustements have never been covered by any automotive manufacturer.

GM/FORD/DODGE/TOYOTA/HONDA and all the others, they don't cover it.

Neither does Harley Davidson.

Belts are like brakes, wear item.

V.

 

[Trickie Dick]

I just called my dealer in AUS asked him about the belt tension and they told me that it only applies only to the RT.This doesnt sound right.Could someone confirm this.I tried to access the bossweb page with no luck.
Thankyou in advance.
Eric

I doubt very seriously you will be able to access bossweb unless you are a dealer with software and password.
Anyway look at post 30 here for a copy of the Service Bulletin. http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18551
You will see it affects the GS & RS as well.
Dick

 

[scudrunner]

Well, I'm confused. Bought my RT-S March 1st, it had been in the crate in the back for a while.... It's in the shop for the 600 mi check and the service guy told me there are no outstanding bulletins for my Spyder. I told him I was concerned about the belt tension, but he said "There are no bulletins listed for your Spyder." I guess that means he isn't going to check it since it wasn't listed. Trust is a big part of a service department. So far, they don't have that from me.

 

[Prense01]

Mine was done by the dealer when I picked up the bike new. I told them about it and they pulled up the information on this site. No questions asked and no charge...

Chris :spyder:

 

[Sarge707]

Well, I'm confused. Bought my RT-S March 1st, it had been in the crate in the back for a while.... It's in the shop for the 600 mi check and the service guy told me there are no outstanding bulletins for my Spyder. I told him I was concerned about the belt tension, but he said "There are no bulletins listed for your Spyder." I guess that means he isn't going to check it since it wasn't listed. Trust is a big part of a service department. So far, they don't have that from me.

"For your own piece of mind ?" Call 866-767-0707 BRP Tech Line Toll Free and give your VIN # and ask them for any Outstanding services due and ask about the belt tension!! If your paying for a 600 mile service the bulletin should be free while they do the service! I,d have BRP CALL your dealer. Let your dealer know WHO the customer is!!!

 

[scudrunner]

Well, I'm on the phone with them now, lots of confusion. Since this isn't a "campaign", the "service bulletin" wouldn't show up when the dealer pulled the VIN# for upgrades. :hun::hun: So they wouldn't know to do it. But the bulletin says for machines that come in for service, it needs to be done. So after verifying everything, the VERY nice lady at BRP is going to call my dealer and tell them what they need to do.
And this is yet another reason why I am skeptical about the ability and quality of this dealer. I've had to TELL them how to do their job since the second day I've owned this Spyder. I even told him that I was concerned about the belt tension and gave him the bulletin number.
I'm just about to run out of honey with these guys.....
Update: Picked up the Spyder and talked to the service guy. He gave the bulletin to the tech. According to my highly sensitive and calibrated finger, the belt is now looser than it was before.