Can I get GPS on my 2024 S2S 10.25" screen; or GPS Software/Hardware, Apples to Oranges, or maybe not...

[mikevoth]

1) Phone and headset should be on and ready to accept bluetooth handshake when your start the bike. Upon startup is the only time the instrument cluster will scan for bluetooth devices. Will not scan for phone if headset is not found first.

2) Using bluetooth for music does not require a USB connection so why are you plugging in at all? You are confusing things and its trying to start a Carplay session. If using bluetooth for music, do not plug the phone into the bike. I have been using bluetooth for music for months and it has not disconnected while riding even once.

3) again with the multiple connections. One or the other, never both. EITHER use bluetooth for music and phone OR use CarPlay. One or the other.

4) I really cannot answer this one. Its likely your phone because mine connects to CarPlay each and every time I start the bike. Stopping for gas or lunch is no problem, starts right back up when I start the bike. So long as the phone (adaptor in my case which the bike thinks is a phone) is booted up and running BEFORE the bike instrument cluster starts up. This sounds like either bluetooth or the wifi link is being interrupted. Interference? Other signals? Phone too far from instrument cluster?

On thing BRP really does need to fix is to provide a way to scan for bluetooth and CarPlay connections again on command. The once and done, never to try again until you shut down the bike and reboot is indeed a problem that needs to be solved. Also changing from CarPlay to bluetooth or vise versa needs to be handled which is closely related to the scan problem.

1) Correct

2) Correct, but charging using the USB cable should still be an option when using Bluetooth, but cannot choose connection. Another issue to fix. Hence, make sure phone is already charged when riding.

3) Correct, yet according to BRP and the Spyder settings, Bluetooth first, then plug into USB for CarPlay. Another feature that doesn’t work as designed.

4) I’ve actually replaced my phone since I got the Spyder last June. No change. Done messing with it anyway, so if we get a nav option in-dash this spring, goodbye carplay.

 

[jcthorne]

1) Correct

2) Correct, but charging using the USB cable should still be an option when using Bluetooth, but cannot choose connection. Another issue to fix. Hence, make sure phone is already charged when riding.

3) Correct, yet according to BRP and the Spyder settings, Bluetooth first, then plug into USB for CarPlay. Another feature that doesn’t work as designed.

4) I’ve actually replaced my phone since I got the Spyder last June. No change. Done messing with it anyway, so if we get a nav option in-dash this spring, goodbye carplay.

USB in the dash is a data connection, not intended for phone charging. It's actually low enough power that it will not charge many newer phones. If you need a charging port, I suggest adding one. Charging was never the OEM port's intended use.

If you connect Bluetooth first and then plug in the phone for CarPlay, assuming the phone is booted up and working, it will handshake and start CarPlay at that point. Kinda useless for me using a wireless adapter, but I did confirm it works. Connecting the USB to the phone prior to starting the bike has been much more reliable, but again, I am using an adaptor, not an actual iPhone.

As for the Bluetooth connection for music, I have been using it for the 6 months and 4k miles since I got the bike and it has not dropped the connection a single time. I have had some stuttering if there is radio interference with the Bluetooth, but it comes right back and is usually related to my phone being in the wrong place and too far from the cluster. Bluetooth is very short range.

There is no GPS in-dash solution coming. There is no internal GPS antenna, maps, or computer, and no way to add those via a software update. Even the discussed BRP-GO solution would be projecting the phone mapping onto the internal screen like CarPlay already does.

 

[mikevoth]

USB in the dash is a data connection, not intended for phone charging. It's actually low enough power that it will not charge many newer phones. If you need a charging port, I suggest adding one. Charging was never the OEM port's intended use.

If you connect Bluetooth first and then plug in the phone for CarPlay, assuming the phone is booted up and working, it will handshake and start CarPlay at that point. Kinda useless for me using a wireless adapter, but I did confirm it works. Connecting the USB to the phone prior to starting the bike has been much more reliable, but again, I am using an adaptor, not an actual iPhone.

As for the Bluetooth connection for music, I have been using it for the 6 months and 4k miles since I got the bike and it has not dropped the connection a single time. I have had some stuttering if there is radio interference with the Bluetooth, but it comes right back and is usually related to my phone being in the wrong place and too far from the cluster. Bluetooth is very short range.

There is no GPS in-dash solution coming. There is no internal GPS antenna, maps, or computer, and no way to add those via a software update. Even the discussed BRP-GO solution would be projecting the phone mapping onto the internal screen like CarPlay already does.

You’re right, it charges slow, but does work for my new iPhone. I have another thread on here talking about finding a Carling L-style USB charger for the blank spot on the console, but there is nothing available that fits. Probably going to add the charging dock to the handlebar bolts. My Bluetooth never fails if I use it alone. I did call BRP and asked about this feature update, but they want to have some kind of big “reveal”, so they wouldn’t give me any information about it.

 

[VryGryFox]

I optioned for the Garmin Zumo XT2 after I found out that my iPhone would blank its display as the temperature rose during the summer. The XT 2 has a great display and is visible in any kind of weather. The interface is kinda clunky but the XT 2 will keep a bunch of stats about your ride. I also use a Cardo Freecom 4x with one bluetooth channel for my iPhone so I can query Siri, accept or make phone calls, and listen to Apple Music; the other channel is bound to the Garmin (but not the phone or music capabilities). I just want directions from the Garmin. I got the mounting kit from Lamonster and did the installation myself. Given my mechanical incompetence, I was amazed that it all worked after I buttoned the Spyder back up.

 

[mikevoth]

Looks like we might not have to wait much longer. BRP has announced a features upgrade to include on-screen navigation for all machines with the 10.25” screen. I have a 24 RTL, and look forward to eliminating CarPlay for maps, since I constantly have connection issues with that, and Bluetooth. Anyway, a fix is on the way.

Screw BRP! The new navigation features being released are for 2025 and 2026 models only. What a joke!!

 

[racoon]

Screw BRP! The new navigation features being released are for 2025 and 2026 models only. What a joke!!

A bit of time with Google, and the "new" navigation features appear to be the same old navigation options detailed earlier in this thread.

Off-road vehicles with the 10.25" display use BRP GO/BRP Connect to enable navigation.
CAN-AM Electric motorcyles with the 10.25" display use BRP GO/BRP Connect to enable navigation.
BRP GO/BRP Connect also worked on the smaller 7.8" displays of the earlier 3-wheelers.
But BRP GO does not work on the 10.25" displays on 3-wheel motorcycles. Instead, the 10.25" displays on support Apple CarPlay.

BRP Go!: A smartphone app for riders - Can-Am On-Road

The BRP GO! app, available on our electric motorcycles and 3-wheelers, allows you to use some of your favorite apps directly on your vehicle display.

can-am.brp.com

BRP GO! can be used on:
- The 7.8" display of 3-wheel vehicles: When BRP GO! is connected to the display, you can use select compatible apps on the vehicle display (through screen mirroring).
- The 10.25" display of electric motorcycles: When BRP GO! is paired with the display, it will offer vehicle information of your Can-Am electric motorcycle right from your phone

*For the 10.25" display of 3-wheel vehicles, Apple CarPlay replaces the screen mirroring features of the BRP GO! app.

 

[mikevoth]

A bit of time with Google, and the "new" navigation features appear to be the same old navigation options detailed earlier in this thread.

Off-road vehicles with the 10.25" display use BRP GO/BRP Connect to enable navigation.
CAN-AM Electric motorcyles with the 10.25" display use BRP GO/BRP Connect to enable navigation.
BRP GO/BRP Connect also worked on the smaller 7.8" displays of the earlier 3-wheelers.
But BRP GO does not work on the 10.25" displays on 3-wheel motorcycles. Instead, the 10.25" displays on support Apple CarPlay.

BRP Go!: A smartphone app for riders - Can-Am On-Road

The BRP GO! app, available on our electric motorcycles and 3-wheelers, allows you to use some of your favorite apps directly on your vehicle display.

can-am.brp.com

They are pretty deceptive then. (I apologize. I don’t know how to make this link smaller.)

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[racoon]

They are pretty deceptive then.

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He does say "new functionality with the BRP GO application" at the beginning of the video.

Which takes us back to the BRP GO! website saying it doesn't work on the 10.25" displays of 3-wheelers.

 

[mikevoth]

He does say "new functionality with the BRP GO application" at the beginning of the video.

Which takes us back to the BRP GO! website saying it doesn't work on the 10.25" displays of 3-wheelers.

Which is weird because it says on-road motorcycles and available for 2025 and 2026 models.

 

[racoon]

Which is weird because it says on-road motorcycles and available for 2025 and 2026 models.

It works on the 10.25" display of the CAN-AM electric motorcycles.

 

[mikevoth]

It works on the 10.25" display of the CAN-AM electric motorcycles.

Yeah, I listened for that, but he didn’t specify. You wait months and put out a little advert blip on the gram, but don’t give solid info. And if you call them, they don’t give any info at all.

 

[racoon]

Yeah, I listened for that, but he didn’t specify.

But he did say "new functionality with the BRP GO application" which does not work on the 3-wheel models.

 

[CopperSpyder]

And as I previously posted, the information about BRP GO no longer being part of the Spyder systems is also on the BRP Web site. I HAVE spoken with BRP on this subject. Call BRP yourself and ask. BRP GO is gone (good riddance) from the Spyder line and replaced with Apple CarPlay. Replaced, not added. BRP is very clear on the issue and its not coming back for these models.

Here you GO jcthorne I tried to tell you it was coming. (spring 2026 as promised) https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/discover/technologies/connected-technologies/brp-go.html I don't know how it works. let us know.

 

[mecsw500]

I've been scouring the net trying to figure out whether I to switch to Apple Carplay or find a workaround for my Android phone, being that I can't use my Android on my 2024 RT S2S. To make a long story short, while searching I came across a video explaining how BRP Ski-Doo can get GPS on their newer model sleds with a 10.25 inch screen. Evidently there is a GPS Embedded Maps Module available via the Ski-Doo site. I think it is the same Software that BRP is using in the Can-Ams. I'll post the short 3 min video link here and the link to the module. I remember reading in these forums about someone finding an adapter to what they thought went to the new 2025 back-up cameras. They posted pics. Anyway, if BRP can make it happen for the Ski-Doos with the same BRP software then it may be vailable for the Can-Ams. The adapter the Ski-Doo GPS Map Module plugs into is very similar to the adapter in those pics. Anybody ever heard of a GPS Map Module for these Can-Am Spyders?

Module: https://ski-doo-shop.brp.com/us/en/860202727-gps-module-for-embedded-maps.html

Video:

You will be pleased, or horrified depending upon your point of view, you can now use Android and BRP Go! on your Spyder with the 10.25" display.

Connect your Spyder to your home Wi-Fi network and update to the latest V 5.1.0 firmware. (Be aware it often blanks the screen out whilst updating, just have patience and let it do it's thing).

Now you can go to preferences and navigation after restarting the bike and swap Apple CarPlay for BRP Go! as the default navigation system.

Load the BRP Go! app on your Android phone, create an account and add your bike's VIN to the app.

Plug the phone into the USB connector in the glove box, making sure to use a high quality USB DATA cable.

Hey presto, you can be back where we were with BRP Go! on the previous displays, but it's better than nothing I guess.

YMMV of course.

 

[mikevoth]

Now we know. BRP Go! Is still alive and well. Maps works, but you have to keep the app open and phone unlocked to see it, so I couldn’t switch over to my camera to snap a pic. No more saying it won’t happen, cuz it just did. And make sure you’re plugged into a charger. If the voltage drops below 12.6, it’ll tell you the battery is too low to install update.

 

[mecsw500]

Yes, I kept my Spyder on its battery maintainer whilst I do anything like upgrade the firmware as I’m paranoid I’m going to brick the thing.

I’m going to start playing with it tomorrow, just to annoy myself. I know it’s limitations are going to be frustrating which is why I just use Apple or Google Maps on my iPhone paired to my helmet.

I looked on the Can Am careers part of the their website and they had a couple of SWE jobs open for Android developers in various development centers around the globe, so they might be putting some effort into Android interfacing, but who knows on what products and when.

 

[jcthorne]

Here you GO jcthorne I tried to tell you it was coming. (spring 2026 as promised) https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en/discover/technologies/connected-technologies/brp-go.html I don't know how it works. let us know.

BRP did indeed change direction and make CarPlay vs BRP Go optional. You can now use either. Trouble is, the new BRP Go does not work any better than the old one pre 2024. IE its a frustrating mess that will not work for a trip. Mostly useless. Get a Garmin.

 

[mecsw500]

BRP did indeed change direction and make CarPlay vs BRP Go optional. You can now use either. Trouble is, the new BRP Go does not work any better than the old one pre 2024. IE its a frustrating mess that will not work for a trip. Mostly useless. Get a Garmin.

I think I got the hang of Apple and Google Maps both, so I use them on my iPhone.

I just glance at the phone to try to understand approximately where I'm going and follow directions by the voice description. My Sena SRL2 comm system does a good job of muting voice to allow directions to be heard despite it being at least a five year old design.

But, I live in Utah and inside the cities it's all by a simple grid system anyway, and outside the cities there are few roads anyway, so it's hard to get lost.

I tried messing with the BRP Go! map app alternative to CarPlay but it makes little sense and the user interface is just awful. I cannot believe anybody in their right mind at BRP could have possibly thought it was a high enough standard to release to the public. When your whole on or off road product is based around adventure riding, how could you release such an obviously poor product in both features and ease of use.

 

[McClendons]

I think I got the hang of Apple and Google Maps both, so I use them on my iPhone.

I just glance at the phone to try to understand approximately where I'm going and follow directions by the voice description. My Sena SRL2 comm system does a good job of muting voice to allow directions to be heard despite it being at least a five year old design.

But, I live in Utah and inside the cities it's all by a simple grid system anyway, and outside the cities there are few roads anyway, so it's hard to get lost.

I tried messing with the BRP Go! map app alternative to CarPlay but it makes little sense and the user interface is just awful. I cannot believe anybody in their right mind at BRP could have possibly thought it was a high enough standard to release to the public. When your whole on or off road product is based around adventure riding, how could you release such an obviously poor product in both features and ease of use.

Have to agree fully. To make matters worse, you can buy a $200-ish tablet that does Carplay and Android Auto WIRELESSLY, and they work extremely well... about the same as those in my car. I use a 1 year old Carpiride, but there are many brands like AOCCI, Chigee, Carpuride, and others that figured out the "technology" for little cost. BRP has completely missed the boat, even with Carplay. Who uses a 6 inch cable in the car? I was hoping the BRPGo would allow you to choose navigation apps, but as it is, it seems next to useless.

 

[mecsw500]

I actually think they meant 6 feet as something was lost in the translation from a metric two meters.

I run a decent quality three foot, or one meter cable and that is working fine.

Yes, the whole BRP CarPlay and BRP Go! situation needs a total rethink. The physical capabilities are obviously there, the software and connection requirements need a total rethink.

The BRP Go! app is just truly disgraceful compared with even free apps, or other apps they could have licensed to include on a $34,000 machine.