Deanna777
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Here in VT. if something happens they pull power trucks from Canada and other places to help.
What happens if to the recycle able batteries?
OK.
Deanna
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Here in VT. if something happens they pull power trucks from Canada and other places to help.
What happens if to the recycle able batteries?
OK.
Deanna
Bfromla
Well-known member
Lil concern with mention of BRP connect. :sour:What else will it mess up?:hun::dontknow: **note am happily with out it, have read too many failures about it**
tntnj
Member
Here are the problems (Just my 2 cents)
When the batteries are developed and then the patent is sold to gas companies, you will never see that technology ever again (Texaco bought the battery patent for the Saturn Cars batteries)
They all got scrapped and the people who leased them wanted to buy and could not, instead, they were sent to a junk yard (there was nothing wrong with the cars)
If you think the power companies are going to let you charge the battery on your car under a street light for free, think again, someone has to pay for light, and the one paying for the power on that light may have something to say about it.
Most people don't want a substation near their homes because of the lines that emit EMF
The infrastructure cannot handle all electric cars (look at Calif and Texas) They have a hard time just trying to maintain power for hot days or cold days.
The recycling and manufacturing of the batteries is bad for the environment, plus we do not have the materials to make the batteries (China does) So you give up one for another.
I am all for clean air and less pollution, I want my grandkids to have clean air, but at what cost? The oil companies should find a way to get better mileage and less pollution from the gas they sell.
When the batteries are developed and then the patent is sold to gas companies, you will never see that technology ever again (Texaco bought the battery patent for the Saturn Cars batteries)
They all got scrapped and the people who leased them wanted to buy and could not, instead, they were sent to a junk yard (there was nothing wrong with the cars)
If you think the power companies are going to let you charge the battery on your car under a street light for free, think again, someone has to pay for light, and the one paying for the power on that light may have something to say about it.
Most people don't want a substation near their homes because of the lines that emit EMF
The infrastructure cannot handle all electric cars (look at Calif and Texas) They have a hard time just trying to maintain power for hot days or cold days.
The recycling and manufacturing of the batteries is bad for the environment, plus we do not have the materials to make the batteries (China does) So you give up one for another.
I am all for clean air and less pollution, I want my grandkids to have clean air, but at what cost? The oil companies should find a way to get better mileage and less pollution from the gas they sell.
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Rednaxs60
New member
Looked into powering a house off the grid with solar, wind and generator supplemental power. Need all three to be effective and efficient, and to enjoy our daily requirements (no one wants to give anything up). This report noticed that the green, renewable energy sector was starting to encroach and pass the 1% power generation in the US. The US utilities are operated for profit, and the companies are beholding to the shareholders. The increase in green, renewable energy was and is seen to be a detriment to the financial model of most utilities. These utilities lobbied the law makers to restrict the green, renewable energy projects, and have been successful in doing so.
There was one utility that has the foresight to see green, renewable energy projects as a way to diversify and get on this bandwagon. It was in the eastern states, and the CEO diversified and created a new division regarding this. This CEO created a division that would work with the consumer and help the consumer meet his goals.
One issue with going green with renewable energy, most want to have the product and promote the concept that they are saving the planet, but do not want to do the work to achieve this. The CEO I mention knew this and the customers were charged accordingly, no loss of revenue.
This is similar to the death of the electric car early on. The big four auto companies in the US lobbied the law makers such that they devastated the industry until now. It is a growing fad and concern, but most of the hype is drama and feel good for those in power. Atlanta used to be the EV capital of the US until the subsidies started to dry up, very fickle population we have.
There was a news story on the EV in Prince George BC because of the cold temps. There was concern regarding starting the EV, a non-issue. The more important issue is that the EV range was cut by 50% and this was only around town. To venture forth and travel, won't happen. The alternate transportation infrastructure in Canada is paltry at best and the cost to use it is exorbitant. I challenge anyone with an EV to travel from Prince George to Whitehorse at this time of year and not experience range anxiety and/or power issues.
The issue with the reusable grocery bags, or one time plastic - there are compostable bags now. A reusable plastic bag takes approximately 25 or so times to become a landfill item, the reusable cloth/plastic bags some 150 times; however, there are more of the latter being used/purchased, and people cannot recycle these. Walmart provides its bags when you order on line for delivery, but you cannot return these to Walmart. People are inundated with these and with no where to dispose of these, it's to the landfill they go.
Asbestos disposal is another area that is not compostable. The bags used - must be double bagged, to dispose of this product will be around for hundreds of years in landfills. Good environmental stewardship.
Power grid requirements. Don't look to Canada for additional, new power infrastructure. Big business realizes that Canada is a sea of red tape and special interest groups that makes any major project a non-starter.
Just a few thoughts. Cheers and happy New Year.
There was one utility that has the foresight to see green, renewable energy projects as a way to diversify and get on this bandwagon. It was in the eastern states, and the CEO diversified and created a new division regarding this. This CEO created a division that would work with the consumer and help the consumer meet his goals.
One issue with going green with renewable energy, most want to have the product and promote the concept that they are saving the planet, but do not want to do the work to achieve this. The CEO I mention knew this and the customers were charged accordingly, no loss of revenue.
This is similar to the death of the electric car early on. The big four auto companies in the US lobbied the law makers such that they devastated the industry until now. It is a growing fad and concern, but most of the hype is drama and feel good for those in power. Atlanta used to be the EV capital of the US until the subsidies started to dry up, very fickle population we have.
There was a news story on the EV in Prince George BC because of the cold temps. There was concern regarding starting the EV, a non-issue. The more important issue is that the EV range was cut by 50% and this was only around town. To venture forth and travel, won't happen. The alternate transportation infrastructure in Canada is paltry at best and the cost to use it is exorbitant. I challenge anyone with an EV to travel from Prince George to Whitehorse at this time of year and not experience range anxiety and/or power issues.
The issue with the reusable grocery bags, or one time plastic - there are compostable bags now. A reusable plastic bag takes approximately 25 or so times to become a landfill item, the reusable cloth/plastic bags some 150 times; however, there are more of the latter being used/purchased, and people cannot recycle these. Walmart provides its bags when you order on line for delivery, but you cannot return these to Walmart. People are inundated with these and with no where to dispose of these, it's to the landfill they go.
Asbestos disposal is another area that is not compostable. The bags used - must be double bagged, to dispose of this product will be around for hundreds of years in landfills. Good environmental stewardship.
Power grid requirements. Don't look to Canada for additional, new power infrastructure. Big business realizes that Canada is a sea of red tape and special interest groups that makes any major project a non-starter.
Just a few thoughts. Cheers and happy New Year.
Rogue Hawk
Active member
Sorry, but you'll still be pumping gas for a bit of a while....
:cheers:
Yes,I am being oppressed by the patriarchy
hyea: Poor poor pitiful me 
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IdahoMtnSpyder
Active member
Uh, I think you need to check some facts. Saturn was never an electric vehicle. It got closed down due to incompetent upper level GM managers from other divisions being transferred to Saturn and brought their old anti-quality practices with them. They transformed Saturn from an innovative quality car manufacturer to just another run of the mill don't give a damn about quality car company.
It was NiMH battery patents that Texaco bought. It did have an adverse impact on some early EV production but some cars still use them so their availability hasn't been totally shut off. And they're being replaced by Lion batteries.
cruisinTX
Member
When they get them to a 300-mile range with 15-minute full recharge and the infrastructure to support all the other electrical requirements across the entire country, I might think about an electric Spyder. As for now, I'm relatively satisfied with my 175-mile range and 10-minute refills to be on my way again.
