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BRP technical support problems?

Leather&Lace

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My bike has been at Seminole Powersports for a week now for the "check transmission" code. I had called the week before to find out if it was safe to ride up there or if I should have it towed. They told me that they would call me when they could tow it for me. I finally had to go up there and complain and they had someone follow me to pick it up. Here it is a week later and I had to call to find out the status of my bike. I was told that they were having issues having technical support call them back to help diagnose the problem and had not gotten approval to order any replacement parts. They said it could be a loose wire, the thumb shifter, or an ECU valve. Are they blowing smoke, or has anyone else heard these complaints from dealerships before. I have a 2011 RS SE..
 
I looked up Seminole Powersports and they appear in the recommended dealer list. It is unfortunate when a owner gets put between the dealer and BRP.

Before getting to angry at the dealer yet, I suggest the following.

Are you sure you are talking to the right person, as in the owner or manager. Sometimes you get an employee that just blows things off.

You might try contacting Carlo at BRP. Use the search engine for his number, or perhaps someone will come on with the link.

I note that in an earlier post you also had a problem with a check transmission light. Did that get resolved to your satisfaction?

You mentioned you had a pearl white RS--did you get it new or used from the dealer. Bad initial setup can lead to problems.

I hope you get your issues resolved. Please keep us posted.
 
The gentleman's name is CARLO Viola. He can be reached via e-mail @ [email protected]
His voice mail may also be reached by telephone @ 819-566-3035. He will call you as soon as he can.
Carlo has been extremely helpful to a number of folks with varying questions and/or problems including myself.
Carlo is a dedicated professional and will treat you with respect, courtesy and efficiency.
I would suggest that you try to do the same with him when discussing your problem, even though you are frustrated.
Carlo is truly trying to help all of us!!!

KYSPYDER
 
The dealer is not blowing smoke, although they may be a part of the problem. I understand the reasons for BRP's "Mother may I?" policy, but it is a great burden to the dealers and the owners. Although there seem to be some things that don't require pre-approval, it appears that all the tough stuff has to have their blessing. The dealers get busy and can't bug them everyday, and the problem compounds. It never helps when the service advisor has to describe the problem to BRP, either, because the tech is too busy to call. A lot gets lost in the translation...and sometimes things don't get approved and have to be run up the flagpole again, or denied. If there is one part of their system that BRP would do well to improve, it's this one, IMO. It's like dealing with an HMO.
 
Before trading in my RS for my RTS I had the same code come on. Called the dealer and he immediately said sounds like a bad switch but bring it in.
Brought it in on a Monday afternoon and picked it up on Friday....sure enough bad paddle switch. Only reason it took 4 days is they had to wait for a switch to come in.
They were able to figure out the problem without BRP being involved. Dealer proficiency problem....maybe?
 
check transmission light error code - I need your help with next steps please

My bike has been at Seminole Powersports for a week now for the "check transmission" code. I had called the week before to find out if it was safe to ride up there or if I should have it towed. They told me that they would call me when they could tow it for me. I finally had to go up there and complain and they had someone follow me to pick it up. Here it is a week later and I had to call to find out the status of my bike. I was told that they were having issues having technical support call them back to help diagnose the problem and had not gotten approval to order any replacement parts. They said it could be a loose wire, the thumb shifter, or an ECU valve. Are they blowing smoke, or has anyone else heard these complaints from dealerships before. I have a 2011 RS SE..

Hello all, I have a 2011 RS SE5. Just within the past month while shifting, the "check transmission" code displayed. I couldn't shift it into the next higher gear so rolled off the throttle and let it downshift. I gained speed and shifted up with no issue. I continued to have this problem so I took the bike in to Coleman's PowerSports in Woodbridge VA. (paid taxi fare to get back home of course). After a couple of days, delightfully I had a message that told me the bike was ready for pickup.

To make a long story short, I was told that there was NOTHING wrong with the bike and that I was not rolling off the throttle when shifting. In otherwords, after one year ... all of the sudden do not know how to shift gears. Okay, so I'm not a technician, but this didn't make any sense to me. I asked them to explain to me what I needed to do to shift gears to ensure the error message doesn't come on. They showed me that just like any other bike (this is my first one) that I needed to roll off the throttle and then press the shift paddle. I told them that something didn't sound right and that I had been on this forum and other people were having this problem and had a paddle part replaced. "well, if it comes on again, bring it back." After paying $109 dollars to tell me that nothing is wrong and diagnostics isn't covered under warranty off I go feeling... I don't know... disappointed with this response. I went home yesterday afternoon and called a taxi to get back to the dealership... $$). I pulled out of the dealership, began upshifting (using this weird rolling-off-th- throttle technique) and yep, there is the light. Because it was late in the day, I kept heading home.

Drove the bike to work today, light comes on. Drove it home today, light comes on. Not good when you can shift gears on 95S on a Friday afternoon in the DC area. I just re-read the 2011 Owner's Manual, and it clearly states on page 56 "... you do not have to release the throttle while shifting with the SE5."

I feel lost and not sure how to take the next steps to resolve this situation. Talking with the technicians doesn't help, they didn't correct the problem and me being a BROAD.... I am just lost. Any help with next steps would be appreciated. Also, does anyone know if BRP issued some sort of bulletin on this issue to help technicians fix the problem?
 
With an SE you do not have to roll off the throttle, when you press the paddle shifter it handels the revs for you.

Harry
 
make sur your shifting at 45oo,or 5000 rpm befor you shift.you need that high rpm for everthing to work right.:thumbup: and dont let off the throttle.if you shift at lower speeds the bike is telling you dont do that with the light.:lecturef_smilie::chat:
 
I would contact the dealer and let them know that they did not fix your problem and point out to them that the Owner's Manual states that you don't have to roll off the throttle to shift. I would also ask them to reimburse you for the "diagnostic" charge and your cab fare.
 
I would be contacting the owner of the dealership, not the service department, and ask him to rectify the issue for you. Tell him you have it in writing in the manual of the Spyder that what the technicians used for a diagnosis is wrong and that you expect to be refunded the money to diagnose your issue and for them to find and fix the problem correctly.

I'd also be contacting BRP if I didn't get a quick response and plan to fix the issue in a timely manner from the dealer.

If it is because your are a "BROAD" I would be looking for another dealer honestly. Being a woman I don't take any crap from mechanics. I know my vehicles and am educated so they will treat me like I do.
 
My bike has been at Seminole Powersports for a week now for the "check transmission" code. I had called the week before to find out if it was safe to ride up there or if I should have it towed. They told me that they would call me when they could tow it for me. I finally had to go up there and complain and they had someone follow me to pick it up. Here it is a week later and I had to call to find out the status of my bike. I was told that they were having issues having technical support call them back to help diagnose the problem and had not gotten approval to order any replacement parts. They said it could be a loose wire, the thumb shifter, or an ECU valve. Are they blowing smoke, or has anyone else heard these complaints from dealerships before. I have a 2011 RS SE..

Although I never had a transmission issue, I did have other issues in which I used Seminole Power Sports. Each one was solved to my satisfaction. With that said there was one time in which I had a limp mode issue, and it did take almost a week to resolve. The wiring harness that runs along the spyder had to be replaced. This issue not only took some time to diagnose (Jason, the service tech collaborating with BRP), but it also took time for the part to be shipped and installed. This issue could not have occurred at a more inconvenient time in that I was geared up and ready to go to Spyderfest two years ago.

I personally have had nothing but good dealings with Seminole Power Sports. I would hope that your situation is the exception as opposed to the rule.

Chris
 
I would be contacting the owner of the dealership, not the service department, and ask him to rectify the issue for you. Tell him you have it in writing in the manual of the Spyder that what the technicians used for a diagnosis is wrong and that you expect to be refunded the money to diagnose your issue and for them to find and fix the problem correctly.

I'd also be contacting BRP if I didn't get a quick response and plan to fix the issue in a timely manner from the dealer.

If it is because your are a "BROAD" I would be looking for another dealer honestly. Being a woman I don't take any crap from mechanics. I know my vehicles and am educated so they will treat me like I do.

Thank you kawakii. I was reflecting on how I perceived the personal interactions during the explanation. I could be that I haven't found myself in a situation to explore solutions in a very long time. Being that I'm not familiar with the mechanical operation of this vehicle, and being that I was the only woman in the service department, I knew that something wasn't right and I wasn't in a position to express myself reasonably. I'll give them this one, maybe it was just me feeling like an idiot when I'm told nothing is wrong and I know there is... but not sure what "it" is.

All of the responses from each of you have made me enpowered to explore this matter further, factually and without frustration showing. Thanks much!
 
Thanks for the discussion!

This forum and your insight have been extremely helpful. I'm now better positioned to formulate a professional and factual next-steps plan to get this issue resolved. :thumbup:
 
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